Hi all,

One thing I've always had issues with is, major differences in overall sound levels from different registrations. For example, Song 1 will sound excellent over a large system but Song 2 will sound about 25% quieter despite the individual parts in the Mixer > Style group page being set very similar. The Style volume is always set at 100. Is it possible the various effects can be causing these huge differences in the output levels? A lot of the times it happens with the Bass track. The compressors provide radically different volumes when turned on or off.

I've owned several PSR and Tyros arrangers. Each time I upgraded, I would import the previous keyboard's Registrations and then go through and tweak them. All the same, there are often big differences. I can correct them "on the fly" during a show but I have enough to do. Is there a way to go through all these Registrations and fix the discrepancies between the volumes? I know Murray Best's program may help but I've never figured out how audition the results "live" on the Genos. I'm not even sure if it's possible.

Either way it will be a huge task. Thoughts? Thanks, team!

- Lee

Lee,

That happens to me sometimes as well. A lot of variables can make that happen. I always set the volume of styles/registrations at 127 not the default 100. Then I adjust each registration 1-8 to reflect the balances of the original style. If the Bass was at 75 when the R1 was at 100 I change R1 to 127 and then change the Bass to 102 to keep the balance as intended, and do this for all parts. There may be better ways but I have done it like this for ages.

Rick D.

Thanks, Rick It seems I'm stuck with setting up my entire system at home and going through the Regs one at a time to see which ones offend the most.

I mentioned the common culprit seems to be the bass. I tried using the Assignable B and C buttons, where B would show me the Sliders for the Styles and C would show me the Panel settings. During a live show, that would be easier than pushing the tabs in the Mixer window. Problem is, you can't assign the buttons in that fashion.

Oh well, looks like I have something to do in the midst of our major heat wave here in Ontario. Humidex is 46 C or 114 F. Thanks again!

Once you get the old ones setup right, it is easy to do as you make new ones. Hot here in Boston also, 95° today.

Rick D.

True, Rick. Thanks...

You don't need Murray's converter to load Tyros registrations into Genos, but you will for ones from PSR.

Having said that, T4 or T5 (I forget which one) introduced a keyboard volume (multiplier on *top* of Right1, Right2, Right3) and while it is available on the Genos1/2, they didn't have that as a default option, meaning you have to go assign a fader to see it.

Whoops forgot to hit post! I typed this on Monday :p

Hi Mark,

It's great to hear from you. I never thought of that! I looked at some of the Keyboard levels and they are different. I would have to go in and resave them all to a new number, perhaps 115. Too bad there isn't a Freeze function for that.

I wish Yamaha would create a live interface that links directly to the Genos via PC or Mac, for making bulk changes. I feel they still cater to only home players, which I know is 99% of their market - no problem there. I'm sure home players could benefit from such a utility too.

Thanks for the help, Mark. Stay well...

- Lee

Yeah, having a dedicated slider for T5, and then *not* having it in G1/G2 or any of the PSR's, really threw most people using registrations. Just an FYI, the default on the T5 was 127! (it's merely a fraction; so 127 = full, and then 100 would be 79%, etc) but no, there's no harm setting them to whatever you want as consistent.

For me I left them at 127 *except* for songs that I'm singing, then often I'd drop "Keyboard" to around 60 so I could do the phrases simultaneously while singing. I suspect most people did something similar; in fact, originally the Genos didn't even have an option for controlling the Keyboard phrase, that came with an update.

Yup, good to see you too!

Mark

I had totally forgotten about the Keyboard volume slider. Like I said, I wish there was an interface for mass adjustments. They have PC and Mac Wi-Fi integration for their AVRs. Why not a $7,000 keyboard? It's a simple piece of software. At least Murray's program works.

Thanks again, Mark!

btw I just checked the Genos and Genos 2 defaults... keyboard default is set to 100 there :p

Like i said, it doesn't really matter, just as long as all your registrations are consistent.

But because of the mess of removing a dedicated slider screwing up registrations, I now don't even touch "Keyboard" and manually individually adjust the volumes of Right1,2,3 so that I can *see* immediately what's going on without assigning a slider to "keyboard"

Mark

Yes, it becomes an interesting problem born by those of us who have traded up several models over the years. I'm going to try looking at several Keyboard volume levels and see what the relationship is between those values and the sudden drop off in volume of certain Registrations.