News:

PsrStyles.com
- Download Styles and Expansion Packs

Main Menu

Headphones

Started by mikeo1, Jan 25, 2025, 07:21 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

mikeo1

Hi is it possible to use wireless headphones with the Genos2

Thanks Mike
  •  

Genosidecar

bonjour ,

Non le Bluetooth est juste en entrée.
  •  
    The following users thanked this post: mikeo1

Brian 007

Hi Mike,

No experience with wireless headphones, but I would have thought the biggest problem could be a slight delay/ latency ?

Brian007
  •  
    The following users thanked this post: mikeo1

Rick D.

Mike,

There is a latency problem using wireless headphones. Someone in the forum mentioned there was a manufacturer that made a pair of headphones that did work though. I forget the name.

Rick D.
  •  
    The following users thanked this post: mikeo1

Ronbo

Hello mikeo1,

Yes,it is possible to use a wireless headphone on Genos 2

I use the Yamaha model YH-WL500

They work very well; no latency issues at all.

But they are not noise reducing like for example, Bose .

I have both but I always use the Yamaha wireless simply because the are just that, wireless

Caution: they aren't cheap, but they're wonderful

regards

Ron j
PSR Performer Page                                  IT'S EASY TO BE THE SHIP'S CAPTAIN WHEN THE  SEAS ARE CALM

Proud Genos2 owner
 
Former boards  PSR2100, PSR 910, TYROS 4,  TYROS 5 and Genos

Chalky

The term 'wireless' is confusing.  Here, it only means "without a wire".  It doesn't tell you the technology that enables the headphones to function without a wire. 

If that technology is Bluetooth then the latency is always going to be very noticeable when pressing a key.  It is simply a consequence of the Bluetooth protocol.

Some manufacturers therefore use a different, usually proprietary protocol that removes unacceptable latency.  That's what Yamaha has done here.  The WL500 uses their own protocol to get latency down to 4ms.  The WL500 can also be used in Bluetooth mode for pairing with phones, tablets, etc but only for listening to pre-recorded audio where latency makes no difference to the experience.


So beware Googling wireless headphones as almost all will be Bluetooth and therefore unusable with your Genos because of excessive latency.
  •  

mikeo1

Thanks for your help, I have some Sony headphones but my Genis2 won't pair with them, ther doesn't seem to be any issues when watching TV ie lip sync but I'm not an expert

Thanks Mike
  •  

Chalky

That's because you are assuming the TV shows the displayed picture immediately.

Modern TVs can automatically compensate for Bluetooth latency by delaying the displayed picture.  For example, say the Bluetooth latency is 100 milliseconds, then the TV will produce the Bluetooth sound signal NOW but will delay the display by 100 milliseconds, thereby showing the corresponding picture that matches the sound.  To the viewer, the sound matches the picture and so the latency is hidden.

And no, a keyboard cannot go back in time and produce the Bluetooth sound before you press the key ;)
  •  

overover

Quote from: mikeo1 on Jan 26, 2025, 05:12 AM... I have some Sony headphones but my Genos2 won't pair with them ...

Hi Mike,

Bluetooth Audio on the keyboard is only for playback from an external device (e.g. smartphone, tablet, computer), but not for outputting the keyboard's internal sound.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)
  •  
    The following users thanked this post: mikeo1

mikeo1

Thanks for all your help
  •  

maartenb

Quote from: Genosidecar on Jan 25, 2025, 09:24 AMbonjour ,

Non le Bluetooth est juste en entrée.

TRANSLATION by Guets are not allowed to view links. In order to access the links, please Register or Login:
"Hello,
No, Bluetooth is just an input."

This is an english-speaking forum. Thanks.


Maarten
  •  

Rick D.

#11
The Yamaha headphones look nice but I need noise cancelling headphones.
I use Bose 700, also not cheap and have all the latency anyone could need LOL

Rick D.
  •