Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free

Started by Teknoss, June 24, 2020, 02:03:31 PM

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robinez

Quote from: tyrosman on June 29, 2020, 06:18:06 PM
hi Robinez those voices were good loved the Demo
Thank you (and EileenL) for these kind words.

That's what i really like about these kind of keyboards, that you can change the sound to your own liking by adding your own sounds to it. Especially the 4 gigabytes space in the genos is fantastic. It's more then enough to add every sound i want. And my styles are mostly ranged to new age / ambient and dance music and there aren't a lot of sounds available for those styles in keyboards. So that you can add them yourself is a great feature :).


Oldden

Just looked on Yamaha musicsoft , still full price.
Early, April Fool maybe, or just that not changed yet.
Oldden

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Quote from: Joe H on June 30, 2020, 12:04:52 AM
I have to say the same thing about Yamaha - Style Factory.  It's got bugs and Klaus doesn't seem interested in fixing them.  For instance: What you see on-sceen may NOT be what is going on with the program.  What I mean is everything on-screen should accurately reflect the operation you are performing. An example would be if a style phrase has a synth sound, the Phrase Extractor Module screen should display the actual sound not "Bassoon" or French Horn".  It should support all the new drum kits not just the old GM/XG Standard Kit. I remixed a style in the Style Arranger Module and saved it. When I played on my keyboard, it didn't sound right.  Drums transposed with my left-hand chords and the rest of the Parts didn't play right either.  I had to load it into StyleMagic to fix the CASM settings.

The program is old. It was written in 1994 when arrangers were quite simple and there were only 128 GM sounds.  When he updated the program to support Tyros and Genos, he did so only half-way. I sent him an email a few days ago explaining some of the issues I was running into... no response.

Style Factory has wonderful potential if he would update it to work properly with the new TOTL arrangers.  Just creating sound maps (Voice Definition Files) for the Tyros and Genos isn't enough. I gave him some ideas about how the program should work effectively with the new keyboards, which have a lot more Voices and also enhancements like Mega Voices for the guitar parts. (SFF2 aka: SFF GE).  The CASM settings fall short and don't save correctly.  To be honest; I'll be surprised if he fixes the problems I reported.  I told him that I was having to "experiment" to learn how the program worked because the documentation was so poor.  A new user shouldn't have to experiment to figure out how a program works.

I'll probably have to find several "work-arounds" in order to use it at all. First workaround was to create a PSR S970 sound map and I had to name it Tyros3.snd in order to get it to work properly. Some of his conventions make no sense or are out of date.  He needs to "modernized  the program to make it truly compatible with the Tyros and Genos keyboards (not to mention the newer PSR arrangers).

http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstf.htm#Top

:'(   :(

Joe H


I have given up on it Joe .
He should refund us ,but that would never happen.
I wasted my money on that one.
Never mind.
With this hobby we all waste money but move on.
Thank the heavens Sample Robot is up to expectations and sound packs are no longer a problem .
This program is a gem.

All the best
John
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

johnnychipito

Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but I can't find anything for free yet. Do others have a similar issue?

John

dflstarry

I don't find anything free yet either, I think it's not going to happen.  ???
Denny

overover

Quote from: Al Ram on June 29, 2020, 10:17:00 PMHello, I have the Genos keyboard, however, i go to the page/link in first post and

When I select the model Genos . . . . . only 1 item is available . . . .

"Easy Xmas Style Expansion" 

is that correct ?   should i select a different keyboard model . . .  ? 

The Xmas package is of no interest to me . . . . are there any other packages available for Genos ? ...

Hi Al,

the link in the first post of this thread points to the "Voice & Style Expansion Packs" (for PSR-S and SX models). To see the Packs available for GENOS, go back to "Sound & Expansion Libraries", then go to "Premium Packs & Voices". If not done before, select the GENOS as Instument now, and be sure to have ticked the checkbox "Compatible".

By the way: So far I can not find any free Packs on Yamaha MusicSoft...

Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

danand

Quote from: Mendel on June 29, 2020, 03:40:25 PM
You say that you load all of your sounds on a USB stick.. can you elaborate more for me..?
I am understanding that those voices are just calling up the preset samples in sample robot?
If That's so, you mind explaining how you do it? I would like to.

If you read carefully the answers bellow the statement you will understand that  it just doesn't work...
You can only add new samples to the flash memory on Yamaha arrangers, nowhere else.
If you then modify the sound you create using the samples you can save them as "new sounds" on a USB stick, but if you format the flash memory, then recalling the sound from the USB doesn't help you at all! If the original sample is not present on the flash memory, you can't use "sampled sounds" from USB.
It looks to me that the OP is a little bit confused.
There is no magic solution. No samples on the flash memory-> No sounds.

elad770

UPDATE!

Just got off the phone with Yamaha customer service
The department the directly handles the Packs content.
They are updating their system and had some difficulties.
There will be 1 day delay. In fact, they said the system will be updated 6pm EST and probably will take effect hours later so the good news : It's definitely happening!
Bad news: 24hr delay ! We'll survive

Bachus

Quote from: elad770 on June 30, 2020, 08:03:34 AM
UPDATE!

Just got off the phone with Yamaha customer service
The department the directly handles the Packs content.
They are updating their system and had some difficulties.
There will be 1 day delay. In fact, they said the system will be updated 6pm EST and probably will take effect hours later so the good news : It's definitely happening!
Bad news: 24hr delay ! We'll survive

Thank you for the headsup Elad..

Joe H

Quote from: danand on June 30, 2020, 08:03:22 AM
... It looks to me that the OP is a little bit confused.
There is no magic solution. No samples on the flash memory-> No sounds.

I think he is confused with the actual samples vs the Voice Set files which are special MIDI files containing modified settings of the Preset or expansion pack Voices.

When we select a Voice on the keyboard, the sample loads, then the Voice Set file loads to set the DSP Type and depth, Volume and other parameters for Left, R1, R2, and R3.  When we load a Voice into a style Part or Multi Pad, the Voice Set file is NOT loaded.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi
Has anyone asked why they phoned Yamaha and why are they givng free packs away.
"Is something else on it's way"??
Maybe it is the GENIUS!!
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

Al Ram

Are there limits as to how many free packages can be downloaded per person ?

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana

gskip

Just got off the Musicsoft site. Nothing free, perhaps tomorrow?
I changed the items in the cart to my wishlist so if it becomes free then I can get them easier.
My problem, since I have a Genos, is what do I really need/ I played a few of the examples and found little to interest me. Of course I have no interest in dance or synth sounds since my keyboard already has enough for me.
I tried to order the organ and FM packs just to see if they are useful. If I had to pay for anthing on this site, I wouldn't.
If anyone has any ideas as to what else could be useful I'd like to hear them.
Thanks
Skip

Bachus

Quote from: Al Ram on June 30, 2020, 10:52:09 AM
Are there limits as to how many free packages can be downloaded per person ?

thanks

According to what people reported..
All Yamaha packs free
No limit..

KeyboardEd

Just got off the phone (11:45 A.M. CST, -6 GMT) with Yamaha Customer support and they told me there are some issues with getting the free offer started today.

Yamaha support said to look for the free offer to begin tomorrow. -Ed L.

Bachus

Quote from: KeyboardEd on June 30, 2020, 11:53:07 AM
Just got off the phone (11:45 CST, -6 GMT) with Yamaha Customer support and they told me there are some issues with getting the free offer started today.

Yamaha support said to look for the free offer to begin tomorrow. -EdL.

Thats the same message Elad confirmed several posts above

KeyboardEd

Opps! I've been back to this post so often I just skimmed over the newer posts and didn't see it...I guess that's good news X2. -Ed L.

Bachus

Quote from: KeyboardEd on June 30, 2020, 12:03:09 PM
Opps! I've been back to this post so often I just skimmed over the newer posts and didn't see it...I guess that's good news X2. -Ed L.

Better 2 confirmations then none

Mendel

Now, can someone ask them why they are doing it???


They are up to something. Period. Something Big.

P.S

John (not John H),
I am anticipating your reply
to my question I posted Earlier

no pressure, perhaps you missed it :)

My bad it is kinda of topic.. maybe you can PM me :)

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi Mendel
Yes i realized that you have to have sounds already on the drive to even recognize modified ones.
Never mind I save everything to a Terrabyte drive even the computer so i do not get caught out.
I have usb sticks from other scources that work straight off the stick. That is why i assumed that all would work I was wrong !! :P
So then they must have been made using the core sound and registration structure of the Genos.
Anyway the sounds from Samplerobot have to go in the packs you make.
Now that is the business :)



All the Best
John S :)
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Quote from: gskip on June 30, 2020, 11:04:37 AM
Just got off the Musicsoft site. Nothing free, perhaps tomorrow?
I changed the items in the cart to my wishlist so if it becomes free then I can get them easier.
My problem, since I have a Genos, is what do I really need/ I played a few of the examples and found little to interest me. Of course I have no interest in dance or synth sounds since my keyboard already has enough for me.
I tried to order the organ and FM packs just to see if they are useful. If I had to pay for anthing on this site, I wouldn't.
If anyone has any ideas as to what else could be useful I'd like to hear them.
Thanks
Skip

Not to moan!! ;D ;D ;D ;D   "Sausages"!!!
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi
I like that German Guy or young enthusiastic You Tuber.

So you think that you will get the free packs. Think Again!!! ;D ;D
That flamin' Yamaha site is so slow that it will crash the servers in 10 seconds.
You have more chance of getting toilet rolls now as no one is fighting over them ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
Swine flu is on it's way . Get yer bog rolls in now!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
China is at it again!!
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

tyrosrick

The Free Paks response from Yamaha:
Thanks for contacting Yamaha MusicSoft.
The Yamaha produced packs were scheduled to become free June 30th but have been delayed until July 1st.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
Kind Regards,

Isabelle

LaHawk

I also phoned MusicSoft. Only Yamaha produced packs will be free. For Genos and SX-900 compatibility that leaves very little to choose from. But hey it is free, so...
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

Bachus

Quote from: LaHawk on June 30, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
I also phoned MusicSoft. Only Yamaha produced packs will be free. For Genos and SX-900 compatibility that leaves very little to choose from. But hey it is free, so...

Its all backwards compatability.. all tyros packs work also on Genos.. and are Yamaha produced..

JohnS (Ugawoga)

The site will crash after 10 people start downloading 8) ;D Massive LOL!!
If it is only Yamaha packs, no wonder there giving them away. Yamaha packs are not very exiting.
The decent Easysounds and Kapro are the only things worth  having.
That is only my opinion. 8)
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

LaHawk

Quote from: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 04:51:20 PM
The site will crash after 10 people start downloading 8) ;D Massive LOL!!
If it is only Yamaha packs, no wonder there giving them away. Yamaha packs are not very exiting.
The decent Easysounds and Kapro are the only things worth  having.
That is only my opinion. 8)

Hopefully customers will not be crazy greedy and spread out downloads over time. Yea right...:)
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

LaHawk

Quote from: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 04:00:07 PM
Its all backwards compatability.. all tyros packs work also on Genos.. and are Yamaha produced..

I could be wrong, but I don't think there are any Yamaha Produced Packs made for the Tyros, that are also not available for the Genos or SX-900.
.
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

elad770

Quote from: LaHawk on June 30, 2020, 05:05:45 PM
Hopefully, customers will not be crazy greedy and spread out downloads over time. Yea right...:)

Spread downloads? what it that mean? of course, they will and they should. Yamaha decided to make these packs public and the Should! They made plenty of money out of them and they are making plenty of money from selling the best arrangers in the world. The consumer Earned these packs!

Secondly, of course the packs will be compatible. If it exists, it will work. When they say ALL packs they mean ALL packs. Just be patient and you'll see. Everyone will be very happy with this move