Midi Maker Video Tutorial Part 1

Started by Tyros5Mad, August 23, 2019, 08:58:22 PM

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Tyros5Mad


beykock

GREAT VIDEO !!!

Good morning Richard,

10:00 AM here.

Thank you very much for this great video manual ! Fantastic work !

My present T5 Midi selection - see picture below.
Is that OK or do I need to select another one. Which one then ?

Best regards, Babette

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Tyros5Mad

Hi Babette,

I would pick Kbd & Style, change that one and save it with a new name.

Regards, Richard

beykock

@Richard,

OK, done, thank you for your advise.

Can hardly wait for Video 02.
Then the real work begins, I guess : making the CSV.   8)

Enjoy your weekend, Babette

jdup

Excellent video in Part 1 - you are so helpful to all of us.

Thanks.

Jim Duprey
Jim Duprey
Genos, Bose S1 Pro (2)
Former Keyboard: PSR-S770


beykock

A Super Idea, Richard !
It will make life so much easier for every MM2 user.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ALL YOUR SUPPORT ! 💐

Best wishes, Babette

willem7397


beykock

Hi Rich :

Any idea when we can expect Video 2 ?🎈😏
Do you believe you will need to make 7 ? 🔔

Cheers, Babette


Dave Nuttall

Quote from: RichardL on August 24, 2019, 03:55:48 AMI would pick Kbd & Style, change that one and save it with a new name.

Richard,
After you save the MIDI setup to a different name, how does that become "linked" to MM2 on the computer?
Do you copy the saved setup to the computer? 

It's not clear to me (from the first video) how those settings are displayed in MM2.

Thanks.
Dave
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2022, Sibelius Ultimate, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.

beykock

Hi :

Compared to other sequence programs Midi Maker is a nice program but it demands a lot of ( extra ) work and makes Midi Maker a very complicated editing prog, IMHO.

I herewith would like to thank Richard for all his efforts and time.

Babette

Dave Nuttall

Quote from: beykock on October 30, 2019, 05:46:00 AM
Compared to other sequence programs Midi Maker is a nice program but it demands a lot of ( extra ) work and makes Midi Maker a very complicated editing prog, IMHO.
Babette,
Can you share with us what program that can be used with a Yamaha arranger that is less work or less complicated?
I've been using a combination of:
- record quick mode on the keyboard and edit with PSRUTI, MixMaster
- Producer to quick record then add/edit with PSRUTI and MixMaster.
This program seems to be at least a comparable "equal" to Producer and far less frustration potential when playing a song with lots of quick-or-thorny/difficult chord changes.

Quote from: beykock on October 30, 2019, 05:46:00 AM
I herewith would like to thank Richard for all his efforts and time.
Babette
I strongly concur with gratitude to Richard for his efforts.
I went from "zero to complete song" this morning in less than an hour.
A minor learning curve on how to designate slash chords, but the "error indicator" in MM when you create the first MIDI is a path to quick fixes using trial-and-error methods.
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2022, Sibelius Ultimate, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.

beykock

Hi Dave :

It has never been my intention to be negative about Richard's self made program. I really admire his knowledge and how he made this prog.

But ... it ain't easy to answer your question though.
It is a very personal choice.

For me Yamaha's XGWORKS is the best midi sequencer ever but all SFF2 styles need conversion ( SFF1 ). The prog has never been updated since 2002. It looks it will never be updated nor upgraded.

Richard's prog can handle all Yamaha styles and that is great.

Best regards, B

Tyros5Mad

Thanks for the kind words folks. Please feel free to send me a direct message if you have a question.

I am already working on the next version, which will hopefully be able to convert a .kar file (midi file with lyrics) into a Midi Maker file. The idea is to then be able to just select a Yamaha style and make your backing track.

Regards,
Richard

PS I also started with Producer and PSRUTI, both excellent programs. Midi maker was born out of those two programs.

Dave Nuttall

Quote from: RichardL on October 30, 2019, 02:17:42 PM
I am already working on the next version, which will hopefully be able to convert a .kar file (midi file with lyrics) into a Midi Maker file. The idea is to then be able to just select a Yamaha style and make your backing track.

Regards,
Richard

PS I also started with Producer and PSRUTI, both excellent programs. Midi maker was born out of those two programs.

Richard,
Is there a method to transpose part or all of a MM song?
Producer has a very nice option.
It's interesting to see that you've used SY*** to send the chord data to the keyboard.  With Producer, there are times when the keyboard doesn't get the data fast enough and things get out of sync.   I've haven't experimented with MM enough to know if that issue also exists with MM, but my HOPE is that SY*** will alleviate the delay in a USB connection, at least on the somewhat outdated gear I use (S910).

In short, a few hours working with MM today and I really like/enjoy what is possible.
Thanks for the effort and for sharing.
Dave
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2022, Sibelius Ultimate, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.

Tyros5Mad

Hi Dave,

At this time there is no transpose feature although that is on the todo list. It should be a simple feature to add. I usually transpose a file with chords and lyrics before I enter it into MM. There are also internet sites that will offer a transpose facility when you look up the chords/lyrics.

Yes the chords are sent as SY*** commands. Remember all we are doing is controlling the keyboard. The keyboard is doing all the work and it needs SY*** chords.
Producer has a different purpose, which is to create a step record file but when you play the song it first has to create a midi file like MM does ie. with SY*** chords before it starts playing the song.

The keyboard can also use the MM file as a song file directly so we can actually do a quick or multi record on the keyboard using the MM file as a starting point.

It is only when we record the song with quick record (Tutorial 3) that the actually note data is generated. The reason for doing this is to generate a standard midi file that can be played with other midi players.

Time is my enemy though. I am working on so many projects right now, mostly video projects, but I will get back to the MM project soon.

Regards,
Richard


Dave Nuttall

Quote from: RichardL on October 30, 2019, 05:23:46 PM
At this time there is no transpose feature although that is on the todo list. It should be a simple feature to add. I usually transpose a file with chords and lyrics before I enter it into MM. There are also internet sites that will offer a transpose facility when you look up the chords/lyrics.

Thanks for the insights, Richard!
Firstly, I generally only create backing tracks for Christian music, usually only hymns and southern/country gospel.  There are lyrics/chords posted for lots of songs all over the internet, but I've never tried to create a backing track using only a chord sheet!  If I don't have a score, I play everything by ear, but that's seldom the case.   But most scores don't have turn-arounds or modulate and I use modulate frequently when the song has 3+ verses.

I can do it outside of MM, so it really isn't a "must have".   If you are able to include it at some point, I'll likely use it but it won't stop me from using the current version.

Thanks again.
d.
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2022, Sibelius Ultimate, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.