SX600 Speakers quality questions

Polpus · June 25, 2024, 04:51:43 AM

Hi all,

just bought my (quite) first arranger and just testing it only with its speakers. By now I've noticed that when I play deep/low sounds of certain instrument they tend to make the speakers vibrate as these cannot maintain the sound. Yes I know I should test with the headphones and also with an external amplifier, but at this stage I have to know if the speakers can be considered anyway good or I shall begin thinking about give the keyboard back...
thanks a lot to anyone can suggest me

Cheers

Divemaster · June 25, 2024, 05:27:28 AM

The speakers are of perfectly adequate quality for the PSR SX600 keyboard.
Obviously, by adding external speakers, or changing your EQ and Compressor settings, you will get better sound.
Also, listen to the sounds through a good pair of headphones as well.

There's no reason to 'send it back'.

Presumably you did some homework on what the Yamaha arranger you chose.

All arrangers are not the same. The TOL ones have, generally, far better sound capabilities, but of course they should do, and we would expect them to as they cost a lot more.

It comes down to what You expect and are happy with.

Keith.

Polpus · June 25, 2024, 06:25:38 AM

Hey Keith,

first of all let me thank you for your answer.
Yepp, of course I did my homework before choosing the SX600 and found nowhere someone who reported an issue (if that's an issue) similar to what I've heard after only 1 day of tests.
I unfortunately have no chance to test other SX600 so cannot make a comparison, that's why I'm asking..
all in all I'm not convinced an instrument like this should have problems (crackling sound) for some frequencies..
it's true also that I have no experience so I'm open to read all of your suggestions about this ...

Cheers

BogdanH · June 25, 2024, 06:47:57 AM

I agree with Keith above...
I had PSR-S670 (SX600 predecessor) and I was quite happy with the built-in speakers -and I see no reason why SX600 wouldn't be at least as good as predecessor.

Of course it makes no sense if we crank up volume and bass to max -we will only get distortion. We just need to keep in mind what built-in speakers are meant for: for practicing and playing at home.
That is, if we wish to impress the audience with a concert in a bigger room, then we definitely need better speaker system.

My advice is, take your time and learn the keyboard first.

Bogdan

KurtAgain · June 25, 2024, 09:38:14 AM

Hi Polpus,

I have a slightly different opinion (or experience) than Keith and Bogdan.

For comparison, I used my fairly old PSR-S900 from 2008. It has almost the same speaker specs as your PSR-SX600:
12 cm x 2 / 12 W x 2

I just tried this:
Max. volume, no external subwoofer, default piano voice, octave -1, C key on the very left hit hard: Neither the speakers nor the housing vibrated, the sound was clear and not noticeably distorted. And that's what I would expect from a PSR-SX600, too. But if the speakers on your PSR-SX600 vibrate when playing low tones, I would suspect that something is defective..

Kurt

Polpus · June 25, 2024, 09:49:21 AM

Hey Kurt,

that's a good test to perform. Tonight I'll test this thing and let you know .

Thanks a lot

KurtAgain · June 25, 2024, 12:26:02 PM

Quote from: Polpus on June 25, 2024, 09:49:21 AM
Hey Kurt,

that's a good test to perform. Tonight I'll test this thing and let you know .

Thanks a lot

But please don't start with the maximum volume, but with a much lower volume and then increase it gradually. If the speakers vibrate even at a lower volume, you don't need to increase the volume any further. The speakers of the PSR-SX600 may be damaged at very high volumes.

Kurt

BogdanH · June 25, 2024, 12:55:46 PM

Kurt,
It also depends on Master EQ/Compressor (and voice) settings. That is, I would never recommend sound tests by approaching max volume -because at that point the amplifier itself starts to cause distortion.

Speaking for myself (SX700), even if I'm in party mood, I rarely increase volume above 12 o'clock position -because at that point it's already very loud for smallish/medium sized room. I'm aware that SX600 is a bit weaker (similar as predecessor S670), but I'm sure it's loud enough for home use. And again, we shouldn't expect such keyboard to be some boom-box. In short, we shouldn't abuse the volume.

But of course, there's always the possibility that one of the speakers doesn't work as it should. Anyway, if I would be suspicious about that, then I would first ask a friend (or family member) to tell me his/her opinion.

Just sharing my thoughts,
Bogdan

KurtAgain · June 25, 2024, 02:02:33 PM

I didn't actually recommend repeating my test. I just wanted to say that the speakers on my old PSR-S900 don't vibrate mechanically, even at maximum volume.

Kurt

ChrisH · June 25, 2024, 08:51:27 PM

Just for interest I cranked up the volume on my old S650 which also has the same speakers as the 670 (2 x 12w) and they sound fine too. My Tyros doesn't have internal speakers so I can't test that for you. I would go into the EQ and adjust the low frequency settings and see if that helps.

Polpus · June 26, 2024, 03:39:06 AM

I had my test as Kurt suggested,

yes I did it at maximum volume with default piano (grandorchestra If I'm not wrong) and -1 octave set on lower C ;
the sound was perfect. No vibration nor crackle. With this attemp speakers are fine .. I will do more tests and underline where they begin to function bad (I believe I was using some sort of electric piano in lower frequency)