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Genos 2 a little touchy on the Brass

Started by JohnS (Ugawoga), January 21, 2024, 01:15:49 PM

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JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi    Not to be taken seriously as i am a old fool lamenting ;D

I am going through Chicago music and it is quite difficult to get all the nuances right.
I do find that if i do not take my hands of the left chords as i am playing the brass can waver a little and you have to keep releasing your hands so as not to cause wavering of sound. I do mean as your playing correctly.
I have tried knocking the aftertouch off, but it can still get tricky if not concentrating.
I am playing Saturday in The Park by Chicago and i have to up the volume of the brass for the lower parts and lower the volume the higher you go, so this is where registrations come in handy. The Brass can squeal a bit if things are not right in the volume area.
Brass is a very tricky instrumentation to get right  and also you need to play with the right intervals.
I love Chicago's music and it does take a bit of concentration.
Are anyone like me who loves this era of music which people do not seem to play very much?
A lot of music is easy to play but i like adventure. Definitely not EDM lol!! ::)
Try playing Sylvia by Focus ------It's fun!! Oh those chord changes :P :P :P ::) "What talent is This Van Leer or something like that. Please Holland people do not have a go at me for my spelling! :o ;D
Why arn't people today playing this stuff and eating magic mushrooms?
This is where we should be going  as today has lost the plot. Is there any late 60's and 70's lovers about who were into S+D and rock and roll??  Only joking,  but very near with a double whisky. They to me were the dreamy days and do you still think of your first love, not music.
Anyway, nobody would admit it ;D Have you ever thought to yourself , "What if i had a time machine"  and you would say " i would win the pools and go back to the 60's and 70's in a heartbeat when the days were fun. :)
Every time i go on a cruise these days  , i say to myself when will i hear thr Rolling Stones ::) Enough said!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beV-dfL-eBQ             forgotten greats

All the Best               
john :)
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox

andyg

Sylvia is a great listen, whether it's the studio track or one of the live videos. Even more fun to try to play it live. I do it on organ but not on keyboard - it is possible using AI Fingered mode for those bass lines, but not easy! Those opening chords on the Hammond are unmistakeable.
It's not what you play, it's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

www.andrew-gilbert.com

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi Andy
I am 73 in a months time and totally self taught on Kenneth baker books since I was 36.
It has been an uphill struggle for me but i think i have got there nearly!!
I read music thankfully at school playing the recorder but what an annoying instrument when as being young , we wanted an electric Guitar that mum and dad could not afford. "Sausages"!!
I would not be confident playing a gig as i would certainly get a migrain through worry.
As a Dj i nearly made it, but for sliding doors it was not to be. I could of had ties with Radio Luxembourg.
Thankfully i am grateful for not entering showbusiness as there are a lot of things that i would be sacked for.
Probably would have ended up like Simon Dee. Too many nice boys in that trade. The key is not Cmaj7, it is love.
Well, i am happy now and achieved a lot in my later years and after practicing a million times over and over , i am still not confident.
When i have a go at Sylvia by Focus , the beginning is easy as pie , but when the song goes into those chord changes for each passage of the run down, you have to keep your wits about you. No time to meander with your thoughts.
I do like to keep my thoughts out there as a lot of people think like me , but will not say it.
It is the same when it comes to do a live take on your sequencer. The red button scare!!
Well it is fun trying  :)
I am burning to make my own LP, but time will tell. Why am i getting stuck on covers? I love it ;D
73 ,not much time!! ;)


ASll the Best
John
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox

Genos!

Quote from: ugawoga on January 21, 2024, 02:29:55 PM
Hi Andy
I am 73 in a months time and totally self taught...
...
I am burning to make my own LP, but time will tell. Why am i getting stuck on covers? I love it ;D
73 ,not much time!! ;)

ASll the Best
John

I remember you saying something very similar when you were 69.

Mr Blue Sky remake was pretty EPIC for a Genos. I'm still impressed!

Looking forward to your album(s).

-Genos!

Genos!

Quote from: ugawoga on January 21, 2024, 01:15:49 PM
Hi    Not to be taken seriously as i am a old fool lamenting ;D
...
Brass is a very tricky instrumentation to get right  and also you need to play with the right intervals.
I love Chicago's music and it does take a bit of concentration.
Are anyone like me who loves this era of music which people do not seem to play very much?
...
All the Best               
john :)

60's & 70's + even earlier! And I completely agree that after the 80's things are not even close.

It seems like there are Genos2 quirks that need to get ironed out before I'd even consider a new Genos2. I like my Genos1, FA08, 2x Integra-7, TritonLE, Casio workstation, BIAB, and all of my PC toys.

I think I have all of the Genos2 covered. I can't see what I would gain with a Genos2 purchase.

Michael Trigoboff

Quote from: ugawoga on January 21, 2024, 01:15:49 PM
Why arn't people today playing this stuff and eating magic mushrooms?

I personally find that the mushrooms light up my cosmic aura better when I play songs from the Grateful Dead:D
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Michael Trigoboff

Quote from: ugawoga on January 21, 2024, 02:29:55 PM
I am 73 in a months time ...

It is the same when it comes to do a live take on your sequencer. The red button scare!!
Well it is fun trying  :)

73 ,not much time!! ;)

77 here, determined to live forever or die in the attempt!

Cubase provides a nice antidote to the red button scare. The feature is called "retrospective recording", and it remembers what you played even if you haven't told it to record. So as long as you have Cubase running, you can retrieve that inspired moment.

Then you get to find out if it actually was inspired, or if it was just the mushrooms talking to you.  :D
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

DrakeM

"Red" button scare is solved with the Audacity program. 

I use it when I am first learning a new song and arrangement. I need a recording to use as a reference because I play by ear and 3 months later, I'll look at my lead sheet and ask myself, what does that mean or how does that riff go again.   

I work out a lead sheet with the words, backup singer notations, chords and important riffs and licks (in number notation notes).

I record the song when I have a pretty good but not perfect feel of the work flow. Then I record the song until I screw it up, restart just before that point and then continue to the end of the song or until the next mistake. Pretty simple to put all those pieces into Audacity and splice them all together for a perfect recording. Presto! a complete demo recording for future reference.

The real challenge is recording a live video in one take. Now that can take a couple days of trying sometimes and it is generally because of the words.

Drake 

Michael Trigoboff

Cubase has a feature called comping which allows you to record multiple takes, and then very easily splice together sections from the various takes. You can do this either in MIDI or in audio.
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22