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Bb6 in prs-sx700

Started by DoggyD, June 21, 2023, 03:58:59 AM

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DoggyD

Hi everyone- I am totally stuck - how do I play an Bflat6 chord on the psr-sx 700. When I play the Bflat chord and add the G the G is not part of the chord but the right hand ?
Thanks
Mark

Duffy

Is it your keyboard split that needs moving higher up?

Fred Smith

Quote from: DoggyD on June 21, 2023, 03:58:59 AM
Hi everyone- I am totally stuck - how do I play an Bflat6 chord on the psr-sx 700. When I play the Bflat chord and add the G the G is not part of the chord but the right hand ?
Thanks
Mark

Change your Split Point, or play the chord one octave lower.

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DoggyD

Hi Thanks I will look into changing the split point

andyg

You don't have enough keys to play Bb6 an octave lower! So do set Style&Left split points to G2 and Right 3 to Ab2. While you're doing that, if you're playing chords like Bb6 I'd recommended setting the fingering mode to AI Fingered mode. 'Transparent' to all normal chords but great for playing 'slash chords' like C/Bb or G/B etc, and also for rootless versions of 9ths and 13ths - plus 'exotica' like Cm9/F!
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mikf

Depends on the voice/situation but often it's easier and sounds better to add these extended chord notes in a rh chord.
Mike

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Quote from: DoggyD on June 21, 2023, 03:58:59 AM
Hi everyone- I am totally stuck - how do I play an Bflat6 chord on the psr-sx 700. When I play the Bflat chord and add the G the G is not part of the chord but the right hand ?
Thanks
Mark

Hi Mark,

You could also try playing the note G below, i.e. G-Bb-D-F. Then you get the Gm7 chord. But the chord notes are identical to the Bb6 chord, only the bass is different. However, this may still fit the song being played.


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mikf

A Gm7 may be the same notes as Bb6, so it won't scream discord, but in most cases the bass note is important in the overall musical feel of a chord progression. So using just a Bb without the 6th might actually sound better than the alternative with note G as the bass. You have to judge.
These additional chord notes make a great difference in some playing. For example piano players use both hands and how they add the additional notes can make the playing so much more professional. Good players will be using 6ths, 9ths, flattened 5ths etc all the time and sound amazing. But on arranger auto accompaniment sometimes the difference is hardly noticeable - especially if the chord is held  for only a beat or two. 
So is it really worth the effort of technical correctness in concocting a difficult lh position? You  have to listen and decide. Bear in mind that the extra difficulty for the lh may mean you don't play that passage as smoothly or as well, so the questionable gain of playing the technically correct chord is sometimes more than offset.
Another thing to watch for is sometimes the chord additions are just recognizing that the 6th appears in the melody, so it's not important to add it to the chord.
Overall, the important thing is that the object of playing music is to sound good, not to be technically correct. 8)
Mike