Yamaha new products at NAMM 2023... unfortunately no new Montage or new Genos 😢

[keynote]

Here's the list of new Yamaha products that will be showcased at NAMM 2023 at the Anaheim Convention Center in Anaheim, CA on April 13-15, just a few days away. Disappointing for arranger keyboardists and traditional workstation users, since there will be no update to either the Montage or the Genos, unfortunately. PS: The synthesizer that was talked about from Yamaha's March 1st newsletter is the new CK line of keyboards. So I guess the MODX+ addition that was released months ago doesn't count?

https://usa.yamaha.com/namm/ You will probably need to scroll down a bit to see the new products.

All the best, Mike

Another PS: So the next real opportunity for Yamaha to make Waves 2.0 a reality will be in October/November 2023, at the Yamaha Keyboard Club event in the U.K. or NAMM 2024 on January 25-28 also in Anaheim, CA. Oh, well.   

[Toril S]

Thanks Mike. As suspected. The good thing is that our old keyboads still work😀 Genos is still exciting.

[p$manK32]

They mention the new P-S500 digital piano and the CK series, both of which had already been announced recently. It says "check back on April 13th for special product announcement". So something else will be announced on the 13th, whether it's a new Montage or Genos who knows. MODX+ is not featured as news probably because it was released in September of last year, which was a while ago.

Rich

[pjd]

People are still awaiting the Yamaha unicorn. 

Yamaha do not live rent free in my head, but who knows?

Keep playing and have fun -- pj

[ton37]

Yeah right, unless you are 'convinced' that another brand suites you better than the one you have: go that way. Otherwise play the one you once bought with legimate reason with pleasure and keep your money in the pocket. In the meantime put quite some money aside; you will need that in time !! 

[soundphase]

I just read the title: "check back on April 13 special product announcement".

For me, we always have to wait the final conclusion.

[Jeff Hollande]

Good news on April 13, 2023 ? It is not a Friday !
Cross my fingers.

JH

[pjd]

Well, Yamaha USA's NAMM page is now broken under Chrome...

All instrument categories have a "Latest Releases" button. Only Piano and Percussion have "Coming April 13" buttons.

No reason to raise one's hope. Practice instead. 

Stay sane -- pj

[keynote]

Yes, the header says: CHECK BACK ON APRIL 13, SPECIAL PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT. It seems Yamaha is sending out smoke signals for people to decipher. A special product announcement could mean one of two things. Yamaha already stated it has a new acoustic Grand Piano (or perhaps more than one acoustic model) that will be revealed on April 13th. Plus, Yamaha has also stated it has a new acoustic Drum Kit + Percussion that will be unveiled on April 13th as well. But, perhaps Yamaha still has a few surprises up its sleeve that will be announced at NAMM. I'm hoping it's the latter because the Genos and Montage have been on the market for a very long time compared to Yamaha's standard mode of operation which usually releases new models every three to four years, at most. To be sure there are literally hundreds of thousands of Yamaha keyboardists who are itching to get their hands on new high-end Yamaha keyboards. We know that the COVID pandemic and the supply chain/chip crises probably dealt a huge blow to Yamaha and other keyboard manufacturers but the pandemic is now over and the supply chain crises have gotten somewhat better so the "SPECIAL PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT" on April 13th could be, perhaps, maybe, might,... be a new GENOS &/OR new MONTAGE!!! Btw, there is still a high demand for luxury items including high-end keyboards no doubt, and you know the old saying, right? >> Don't put off for tomorrow (next year, etc.), what you can do today (in this case, at NAMM). 👍 I guess I'm a glass half-full kind of guy.  Less than a week to go. 🤞

All the best, Mike         

[Snicker740]

I think if there is Genos 2, Yamaha will dedicate it to a separate event and attract more attention to Keyboard Workstation players.

[Jeff Hollande]

It looks like most of us are hoping Yamaha will announce their new high end arranger on April 13, 2023 ...

New high arrangers are usually introduced in the month of September by Yamaha ...
I am not too optimistic it might happen ( on April 13 ) this time ... but one never knows. Miracles are still possible.

Keep smiling, JH

[usaraiya]

I suspect that Yamaha will not reveal their heir apparent on April 13th, as there are so many unsold Genos', and it will seal their doom if they do!
Perhaps, it would seem more likely that they will let us know in September so that Peter Bartmans and Martin Harris can demo it during the Yamaha Club event in November.
But any news is welcome, whenever!

Uday

[Jeff Hollande]

Hey Uday :

If Yamaha are obliged to sell so many unsold Genos arrangers yet ( price ? ), I even wonder if the announcement of the new high end arranger will take place in September 2023.
As far as we informed, Peter Baertmans ( = living in The Netherlands ) has planned his next Dutch dealer's presentantion in December 2023.

First shipments early 2024 ?
Only patience can tell, I guess.

JH

[kiplis]

I suspect that Yamaha will not reveal their heir apparent on April 13th, as there are so many unsold Genos', and it will seal their doom if they do!
Perhaps, it would seem more likely that they will let us know in September so that Peter Bartmans and Martin Harris can demo it during the Yamaha Club event in November.
But any news is welcome, whenever!

Uday

So, it sounds like new Yamaha arranger would be available earliest 2024?
For me it sounds like Korg Pa5X (but not Ketron Event)...

-kiplis-

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

If Yamaha were to release a New Genos we would of heard a rumour by now.
It is near impossible to keep thing air tight these days

[soryt]

I have the money waiting for the Genos 2 for 3 years now   

[Jeff Hollande]

If Yamaha were to release a New Genos we would of heard a rumour by now.
It is near impossible to keep thing air tight these days

Hey John :

Let us wait and see what April 13, 2023 might bring us. Hope brings life, they say. 
JH

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Believe me Jeff . "I want the new GENOS"!!!!!
That now makes Soryt and me waiting with the money.

[Jeff Hollande]

Hey Guys :

If you both ( you & Soryt ) have saved and reserved approx. USD 5,500 ( ? ) you might be the ( first ? ) proud owners of the Genos' successor before the end of 2023, early 2024, IMHO.
Hopefully earlier than I am expecting. 

I have to wait much, much longer ... at least 2 years before I can spend this hugh amount of money.

I hope my Ty4 and I will survive this period of time.😛

Good luck ! JH

[ton37]

I have the money waiting for the Genos 2 for 3 years now   

Me too  but the 61 ...

[Jeff Hollande]

Most members ( 95 % ) do not expect a 61 note Genos' successor,  a 76 note only.
For me a 61 note would also be very welcome ... wishful thinking ?

JH

[BogdanH]

It's impossible to predict, but... Genos (successor) is seen as an professional keyboard and as such, it's just expected to have 76keys. Not only we can play piano more comfortable with 76 keys, but we also get wider keybed split ranges. Yes, for home use, we can always make octave shift and adapt our playing to 61keys (or add a small midi keyboard). But for a pro, this could be a hassle and quite a limitation. Saying that, I don't expect Genos successor to be available with 61keys. At Yamaha, for those who are happy with 61keys, there's PSR-SX series.

And there's a price thing... Korg Pa5X for example: difference between 61 and 76key version is relative small considering the total price (only 330€ difference). And because we don't buy TOTL keyboard every year, we better don't make compromises which we might regret few years later (because we saved 330€).
But yes, many times we collect every cent for our new keyboard and for 330€ one can buy decent studio monitors.

Just sharing my thoughts,
Bogdan

[ton37]

Yes @BogdanH, I know  We have had this discussion month ago. It is not without reason that I replaced my Genos with the SX900 at the time. So it's a personal choice. I'm still convinced there will be a 61 version too.... maybe I'm missing the point completely, but I'm going to daydream some more. I will be awaked at time X by nightmare or a beautiful dream...

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

76 key is best and you have more room to split the keyboard if you wanted to

[ton37]

For most, 76 is the 'best', but not necessary for me. I have never had any problems with my 61-sx900. And if it ever happens, I'll deal with it another way... or I don't let it happen 

[TiasDad]

Whatever it is, it still won't make me play any better 

[rikkisbears]

Whatever it is, it still won't make me play any better 

Haha, I can relate to that😀.

My arrangers over the years have all been 61 notes. Liked the portability.
Last year went nuts and bought an 88 note .  No regrets, though.

[soryt]

My lower octave of the Genos is like new , never touched ( almost) 

[soundphase]

If you currently look at https://usa.yamaha.com/namm/ , you will see that a special product would be announced today for the electronic keyboard section. Push « latest release » button to see the message

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Could it Be GGGGGGGG