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Started by guitpic1, April 01, 2021, 12:11:48 PM

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guitpic1

I'm starting to see posts on Facebook re: Genos 2

Real?  Fake?

April Fools?

I'm not talking about V2.0 OS.  This was a video clip from Europe.

😊
guitpic1

For me, the goal is to keep growing/learning.

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Gunnar Jonny

Quote from: guitpic1 on April 01, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
I'm starting to see posts on Facebook re: Genos 2

Real?  Fake?

April Fools?

Most likely a Real April Fool. 😁🎵🎹

EileenL

Eileen

guitpic1

guitpic1

For me, the goal is to keep growing/learning.

mikf

What person thinks  this is important enough to enough spend time making fake pictures and posting them? Unless you are a dealer, how many people actually care about knowing ahead of time what a keyboard might look like??


Toril S

Many strange hobbies out there😀
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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JohnS (Ugawoga)

Put those handcuffs away Toril ;D
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
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Toril S

Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



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tyrosman


Bachus

2025 at earliest..

DJIncendration

Quote from: guitpic1 on April 01, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
I'm starting to see posts on Facebook re: Genos 2

Real?  Fake?

April Fools?

I'm not talking about V2.0 OS.  This was a video clip from Europe.

😊
I'm guessing it will come out sometime soon. There are quite a few voices on the SX900 that aren't on the Genos, even with the Superior Pack, such as the SixtiesGuitar, HalfWahLead and the Vibes&JazzGuitar.

Fred Smith

Quote from: DJIncendration on May 23, 2021, 10:33:39 AM
I'm guessing it will come out sometime soon. There are quite a few voices on the SX900 that aren't on the Genos, even with the Superior Pack, such as the SixtiesGuitar, HalfWahLead and the Vibes&JazzGuitar.

I'm in between you and Bachus. I say 2023 for Genos 2. Hopefully the "2" means it will support midi 2.0.

Cheers,
Fred
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DJIncendration

I hope that whenever it does come out, there will be more Revo!drums/SFX. The Genos 1 has 7 Revo!Drums and 3 Revo!SFX, while the PSR-A5000 has 20 Revo!SFX. I understand that the A5000 is focused on world content, but I was surprised that it has more Revo!SFX than even the flagship Genos.

Bachus

Quote from: Fred Smith on May 23, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
I'm in between you and Bachus. I say 2023 for Genos 2. Hopefully the "2" means it will support midi 2.0.

Cheers,
Fred

There is no indication Yamaha will support the midi 2.0 ,  its mostly a Roland thing.

danand

Quote from: Fred Smith on May 23, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
I say 2023 for Genos 2
Hey... they don't create a spaceship in order to travel to Mars!!!!
4 year are more than enough...
It is quite probably to see the new version before Christmas (Nov 2021)
My 2 cents in any case, I don't have "inside" information.

Bachus

Quote from: danand on May 29, 2021, 04:40:35 AM
Hey... they don't create a spaceship in order to travel to Mars!!!!
4 year are more than enough...
It is quite probably to see the new version before Christmas (Nov 2021)
My 2 cents in any case, I don't have "inside" information.

Peter Baartmans said that product lifetime of the Genos will be atleast 5 years.. and probably longer..

This is on par what the competition is doing..

Just some numbers of cureent top models..

Yamaha Montage 5 years and counting
Yamaha Motif XF 6 years
Korg PA4x 6 years and counting
Korg Kronos 10 years and counting
roland Fantom X 12 years

Technollogy advancement in keyboard land has almost come to a halt, thats why time between models is much longer then a decade ago.

Bachus

Quote from: Francesco Massa on May 30, 2021, 09:25:01 AM
But my question is: do we really need a Genos 2 at the moment?

(or can the current one be pushed even further?)

No, we don't need a Genos2 yet, certainly not the way Yamaha does updates..

I can name dozens of possible updates to Genos, but time also learned me we will not see them from Yamaha Europe.

What we can expect is a major software patch each year for the current Genos.

soryt

I realy need a new one , with al the improvements i mentionned before , and a lot better hardware and surface wich suits his ridicilus high price  ( now)

Soneg  ;D
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Pincho Paxton

If I was Yamaha I wouldn't call it Genos 2 anyway. You had Tyros, then Genos, so the name would perhaps change again. Probably something like Zavos? Xenos?

Bachus

Quote from: Pincho Paxton on May 31, 2021, 05:30:34 AM
If I was Yamaha I wouldn't call it Genos 2 anyway. You had Tyros, then Genos, so the name would perhaps change again. Probably something like Zavos? Xenos?

You had Tyros 1 to 5, all looked alike
Guess whats next and what it will look like?

Lee Batchelor

Whatever Yamaha decides is fine with me EXCEPT for the new Genos, I hope they listen to all the user comments about the cheap finish and poor grade of buttons.

The symbols are starting to fade on my most used buttons - for the first time in about 9 different models!! When you own a PSR 740 and the finish and buttons outlast a keyboard that costs four time as much, there's something really wrong.

Whoever the genius is at Yamaha who authorized the reduced physical quality of the Genos, they need to be fired. It was a terrible move, all to save $3 or $4 dollars per unit.
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

Pincho Paxton

Quote from: Lee Batchelor on May 31, 2021, 04:22:42 PM
Whatever Yamaha decides is fine with me EXCEPT for the new Genos, I hope they listen to all the user comments about the cheap finish and poor grade of buttons.

The symbols are starting to fade on my most used buttons - for the first time in about 9 different models!! When you own a PSR 740 and the finish and buttons outlast a keyboard that costs four time as much, there's something really wrong.

Whoever the genius is at Yamaha who authorized the reduced physical quality of the Genos, they need to be fired. It was a terrible move, all to save $3 or $4 dollars per unit.

Glad I'm playing mine by MIDI, it will stay new forever!!!

Lee Batchelor

Quote from: Pincho Paxton on May 31, 2021, 06:15:26 PM
Glad I'm playing mine by MIDI, it will stay new forever!!!
Now, why didn't I think of that?! Of course, the old saying among musicians still holds. "If you're gear is in pristine condition, you're not playing enough." ;D
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

EileenL

I play mine a lot but pleased to say buttons are still good.
Eileen

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi Eileen and Lee

All my buttons are good except for the forward slash on the start button( Completely disappeared . Also a thin bottom line on the number 2 registration button)
Still got a year guarantee left, so i will wait until a couple of months left to either get a new button or accept it.
If a new Genos comes out next year i will let it go.
If i did give it back to E-Piano's Banbury .how long would it be gone for?? That is the problem. :-\
For Lee i would get something done about it if quite a few buttons are fading.
I was lucky to have a 5 year guarantee.

All the best
John
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox

danand

Quote from: Bachus on May 29, 2021, 02:00:09 PM
Peter Baartmans said that product lifetime of the Genos will be atleast 5 years.. and probably longer..

Maybe, on the other hand ALL Tyros updates last 3 years from one model yo another.
• Tyros (1 May 2002)
• Tyros2 (21 June 2005)
• Tyros3 (17 April 2008)
• Tyros4 (16 June 2010)
• Tyros5 (13 July 2013)

Maybe the new release doesn't include all the updates users want, but Yamaha will release it in any case...

Lee Batchelor

Quote from: ugawoga on June 01, 2021, 07:09:57 AM
Hi Eileen and Lee

All my buttons are good except for the forward slash on the start button( Completely disappeared . Also a thin bottom line on the number 2 registration button)
Still got a year guarantee left, so i will wait until a couple of months left to either get a new button or accept it.
If a new Genos comes out next year i will let it go.
If i did give it back to E-Piano's Banbury .how long would it be gone for?? That is the problem. :-\
For Lee i would get something done about it if quite a few buttons are fading.
I was lucky to have a 5 year guarantee.

All the best
John
Five year warranty, John? We don't get that in Canada because...well, it's Canada - perhaps too soft a market for Yamaha, despite the fact that we produce some of the greatest entertainers in the world who often use Yamaha instruments.

We're also last to get any new product releases and only receive a one year warranty. It really sours me when a company plays favorites like that. I live close to Toronto. Upper New York state is just 50 km across the lake from me and they received the first release of the Genos keyboards 6 months ahead of us. I spoke with our Canadian Yamaha rep when I was waiting for my new Genos. She told me they were still 4 months away for me and then proceeded to brag how she just loved her new Genos. Yamaha seemed quite content to afford her one months ahead of her customers. Sure enough, four months later, I received my Genos - the second one to arrive in Canada. I hope when Genos 2 arrives, Yamaha gives us more consideration and not treat us like second class players. What was the topic again :-\?

Five year warranty? Must be nice ;D!
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

alans

Lee,the 5 year guarantee is a dealer extended guarantee,not Yamaha, I bought a Genos from E-pianos also and  got the 5 year deal
Previous keyboards-Yamaha PSR 410,Technics KN2000,KN5000,KN6000 , KN7000, Tyros5 and Genos

Lee Batchelor

Didn't know that, alans. My dealer offers extended warranties but it costs a fair amount. I assume John also paid for his? He said, "I was lucky to have a 5 year guarantee." He didn't mention where he got it from. I assumed Yamaha ;D.
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.