One Bank = One Song - the best way to use Registration Memory

[ckobu]

Registrations can be organized in a variety of ways. Everyone will adapt them to their way of playing and use them in their own way.
I made a video in which I explain 5 reasons and that it is best when there is data for only one song in one bank.
One bank = One song
I would love to hear how many people on this forum use this concept.

https://youtu.be/I2zSdfSpa00

regards, ckobu

[vanzee]

I also use one bank per song.
Very easy to find the songs (banks) in a folder.
I even place all I need for a specific song in a folder with the name of the song.

[Rick D.]

Ckobu,

I have been using this method since my first Tyros 1 and continue using it this way on my Genos.
For me, it is a lot more organized and easy to use this way.
When using Songbook+, when I click on the sheet music the banks automatically loads up and I can start playing.

Rick D.

[porterma]

Hi Ckobu,
Thank you for this video.
I have been following Mike Mixon (Keyboard America) 's method of one song per registration button - thus 10 songs per bank.
There are certainly limitations to this method and after watching your video I am inclined to try your method of one song per registration bank.
You can certainly tailor your songs much more completely.
So thank you!
I wonder if you might be willing to share a few of your song registrations with the group here

Thanks,

Mark

[murrayb]

Casper:

When I started using registrations, I had one song per button, but have since converted all of these to one song per bank using my program YRM.

I find one song per bank gives far more flexibility to set up variations and easy progression through the variations using registration sequence.

Cheers,

Murray

[Stuart L]

I now always use one bank per song and find this the best system for me. I enjoy putting together medleys sometimes themed, sometimes just songs which go well together and other times medleys of a particular show like Phantom etc.
As I slowly improve my playing I often revisit my earlier medleys and find ways of improving them. Since I don't normally require all 8 registrations for each song it means I have room to fit in extra registrations. So for me a very flexible  system.
Regards
Stuart L
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[ikmusic]

One bank = One song
I would love to hear how many people on this forum use this concept.

This is the best solution for me.

[YammyFan]

 For every song I play on my PSR 970 I use two different styles.  and when I put them into my Registrations I place them in adjacent slots. So when I play a particular song  I know the verse is on Reg. #1   and the Chorus is on Reg#2
On Reg #3 &4 I have a different song.  On Reg# 5 &6  I keep a different song and on Reg #7 & 8 a different song.
The reason I do this is because I get rather bored playing a song right through using one style only. Of course,  many of the things I wish to play, do not have a chorus , and then I choose a spot halfway through the piece to switch styles.

[ckobu]

Thanks to everyone for reporting. Each of us has a different approach to using registrations, and the most important thing is that it suits you and that you manage it well and quickly.
As I said in the video, I use the method One registration - One song. I know the entire content by heart because I did it myself and upgraded it over time. Still, I think One Bank - One Song will be better, especially since we now have a function Playlist.
Maybe I'll move on to such a concept, and I'll definitely use the Yamaha Registration Manager program for that. So I take this opportunity to once again thank Murray, the author of the YRM program for a great job.

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I wonder if you might be willing to share a few of your song registrations with the group here
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The registrations I used in the video can be downloaded from the Yamaha site. See the Other Downloads and "Bonus Playlist for Genos". The songs that I personally use (video 09:40) will not be useful to you because it is a repertoire that you do not know. These are songs from Croatia.

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/downloads.html#product-tabs

[Divemaster]

I think that this may be the solution that I have been looking for. All my excursions into even comprehending registrations have ended in failure, and I find them completely baffling.
What  for example, is the benefit of using a registration over a Playlist entry?
I hope, in the future somebody will write a foolproof tuition guide for the SX series.
Most of the older stuff is for older keyboards, and Tyros models, and translating from those instructions to the newer models defies my mind.
I know that Fred seems to be "the man" on this, but I truthfully don't know where to begin.
But as a home player.... Do I even need registrations.
All those buttons doing nothing..... Not good.
Any advice welcome.

And yes, I have read both manuals....

[Fred Smith]

What  for example, is the benefit of using a registration over a Playlist entry?

A playlist entry simply points to a registration. To use playlist, you have to have registrations. The registrations come first, then the playlist.

I hope, in the future somebody will write a foolproof tuition guide for the SX series.

Based on my experience, you could be waiting a long time.

And yes, I have read both manuals....

Have you watched the videos?

Cheers,
Fred

[Amwilburn]

I always do one song, one bank (or many banks, as some of my songs require 50+ registration changes). But even if it's just 1 bank for 3 reg buttons (intro, verse, chorus) I never put multiple songs in 1 bank, and always tell my customers to do so.

Heck I'd been telling Yamaha to do it this way instead of filling a reg with 8 different songs for 20 years, and when the Playlists came out, they finally listened!

It's so much easier to find song specific registrations this way (I had some customers with binders full of lookup sheets, and if they lost a page, they couldn't figure out which reg button from which reg file had the specific song registration they were looking for).

Also, for some, it's easier to just use styles with song names, and that's fine. Still organized. Not everyone understands registrations, and as we've seen on this site, for some it's hair tearing frustration using registrations that affect unseen parts of the keyboard and thinking their keyboard doesn't work. (Starting with T4 or T5, you were able to re-route the outputs. So I've seen people freak out because all of a sudden their keyboard has "no sound" but it's because they rerouted all the parts except mic to aux outs).

Don't use other people's registrations until you have created a few yourself and understand what you can and shouldn't modify; and before that make sure you have  a factory default 'clean' registration bank (with just the 1 registration for the default, others left blank).

But I tell every customer: do *not* fill the empty spaces on your reg bank with other songs' setups. You will forget what those other songs were at some point, and where to find them, rendering them useless. If you have a bank called "Hotel California", you know all those reg memories inside pertain to the one song, and you can't lose it because they're alphabetically sorted.

Mark

[Divemaster]

Thank you Fred for your kind, and honest reply. I think I'll stick to playlists because at 76 years old, my old brain isn't up to registrations.

I have watched your videos, and they are excellent, but I just cannot get my head round a lot of it.

Sincere thanks.
Keith.

[Fred Smith]

Thank you Fred for your kind, and honest reply. I think I'll stick to playlists because at 76 years old, my old brain isn't up to registrations.

I have watched your videos, and they are excellent, but I just cannot get my head round a lot of it.

Sincere thanks.
Keith.

No worries.

Still don't know how you use a playlist without registrations, though.

Cheers,
Fred

[Divemaster]

Hi Fred, and thanks for your help which as always is appreciated.

The SX700 allows me to download any Music Finder Database onto a memory stick. So let's take the Tyros 5 MFD as my example.

I then place the memory stick into the SX, and it advises me that in order to make the database usable, it needs to convert it.
So, Press Yes, and after around 5 to 7 minutes, I then have 2 entries on the instrument.
One is the old database, and the other is the new playlist. It advises that I should always select OTS when using it.
I delete the old database, as I don't need it. It can't be used on the SX as a playlist without that conversion.

So then from scratch. Turn on the instrument, Press Playlist, and it shows me (in my case Tyros 5 Playlist. I can use that....OR

Should I NOT want the Tyros 5 Playlist, I can select another one I have loaded, by pressing the Tyros 5 window at the top, and selecting a different one.

See picture of some of the ones that I have.

It then only remains to select the song that I want backing for and click LOAD and it sets up the keyboard for playing.

Hope that makes sense. 

Thanks
Keith

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[ckobu]

Hi Keith,
Watch this video, turn on English subtitles.

https://youtu.be/BF6ckJeQyIE

[Fred Smith]

Hi Fred, and thanks for your help which as always is appreciated.

The SX700 allows me to download any Music Finder Database onto a memory stick. So let's take the Tyros 5 MFD as my example.

I then place the memory stick into the SX, and it advises me that in order to make the database usable, it needs to convert it.
So, Press Yes, and after around 5 to 7 minutes, I then have 2 entries on the instrument.
One is the old database, and the other is the new playlist. It advises that I should always select OTS when using it.
I delete the old database, as I don't need it. It can't be used on the SX as a playlist without that conversion.

So then from scratch. Turn on the instrument, Press Playlist, and it shows me (in my case Tyros 5 Playlist. I can use that....OR

Should I NOT want the Tyros 5 Playlist, I can select another one I have loaded, by pressing the Tyros 5 window at the top, and selecting a different one.

See picture of some of the ones that I have.

It then only remains to select the song that I want backing for and click LOAD and it sets up the keyboard for playing.

Good to hear, Keith.

Just so you know, in addition to the 2 entries you listed, you have a bunch of registrations on your keyboard. That's what it's doing during the 5 to 7 minutes of the conversion process — it's creating registrations.

So you're using registrations from the playlist. Now that you have them started, it won't be too hard to continue with them.

Cheers,
Fred

[madirv]

Hi Keith
Along with several others on this post I too use one registration bank per song but I completely understand your dilemma.  It took me quite some time (longer than I care to admit) to get my head round registrations  but, once grasped, they seem quite simple.  I was about to send you my own system of saving but I found this video which I thought was excellent, very well explained and  simple to follow.   
Hope this helps

https://www.epianos.co.uk/tv/saving-registrations-on-yamaha-psr-sx700-and-sx900)  (dont think this is a proper link but if you type it into google it should come up   Its by Chris at epianos)

also, 76 is not too old to get your head round registrations----76 is simply becoming ripe 
Kind regards
Irene

[Duurduur]

also, 76 is not too old to get your head round registrations----76 is simply becoming ripe 
Kind regards
Irene

I totally agree with this. I am also 76 and still learning every day. Slightly slower when I was younger, but still!

Ruud

[Divemaster]

Hi Keith
Along with several others on this post I too use one registration bank per song but I completely understand your dilemma.  It took me quite some time (longer than I care to admit) to get my head round registrations  but, once grasped, they seem quite simple.  I was about to send you my own system of saving but I found this video which I thought was excellent, very well explained and  simple to follow.   
Hope this helps

https://www.epianos.co.uk/tv/saving-registrations-on-yamaha-psr-sx700-and-sx900)  (dont think this is a proper link but if you type it into google it should come up   Its by Chris at epianos)

also, 76 is not too old to get your head round registrations----76 is simply becoming ripe 
Kind regards
Irene

There's ripe like a juicy apple, and ripe like a pair of old socks?

So not sure at what stage I'm at Irene ! 

Thank you. Keith 

[Divemaster]

Irene

Thank you very much for that video. I found it very easy to understand, and will have a go with it later.
It will be great to save my own playlist favourites all in one place.
Really appreciated.
Keith 

[madirv]

Thanks very much Keith----so glad I was of some help. 
That guy Chris is really good---very clear and very accurate.  I watched one of his videos this morning about recording stuff and putting on a USB stick etc.  I rate him----easy to understand.
Good luck with the registrations---you'll find it easy once you have done it once and you can then you will be convinced you're a juicy apple and not a pair of old socks 
Cheers
Irene