Genos SX Plus Pack by MX Sounds Studios

[MFrost]

What is this pack content? Is it worth buying it? Does it only work under sx900?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmuLxxaY2PY

greetings

M.

[Telmo]

And the price for this Pack is not bad at all. $35 USD it seems very tempting. I might give it a try. To have Genos sounds on my SX900 would be awesome.

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[computec1349]

Check this

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[Roger Brenizer]

If you consider anyone's email to be spam, ton37, you have the option to block them in your personal email settings or even at the webmail level.

I've looked at your account settings and you have not checked "Allow users to email me", so I'm not sure how they know your email address.

[Telmo]

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My question is: How much memory does this pack take?? I have some good sample voices already installed on my SX900 and I would like to keep them if I decide to purchase yours. I don't how memory your Pack takes.

[computec1349]

509MBs

[elad770]

Francesco,

Of course it's Legal! There's no ownership on sound. Every little editing to sounds makes them Yours!
However its very foolish to buy a pack that basically edit that sounds already sampled. I will say this for the million times. Such creators better of asking for donation to support their work

[kampot]

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A lot of those styles ( like "sky pop" ) already come in sx-900

[Telmo]

509MBs

Can we combine with other packs since it comes in PPF format?? And how do we make the purchase?? Through Paypal or e-bay??

[computec1349]

Can we combine with other packs since it comes in PPF format?? And how do we make the purchase?? Through Paypal or e-bay??

Hello! You can send a email to keyboardtipsmx@gmail.com for more info.

Best Regards.

[andyg]

Francesco,

Of course it's Legal! There's no ownership on sound. Every little editing to sounds makes them Yours!

I have no knowledge of this particular pack and can't therefore comment on specifics.

However, as far as legality is concerned, sampling sounds that have already been sampled, or indeed any form of reverse engineering of sounds or styles, is illegal. Offering them for sale even more so. I speak as someone who has been the victim of this type of intellectual property theft and who has successfully taken action against the perpetrators.

And editing sounds does not 'make them yours', any more than arranging a tune makes it 'yours'. Legally, they are 'derivatives' and any copyright still remains with the original holders.

[computec1349]

I have no knowledge of this particular pack and can't therefore comment on specifics.

However, as far as legality is concerned, sampling sounds that have already been sampled, or indeed any form of reverse engineering of sounds or styles, is illegal. Offering them for sale even more so. I speak as someone who has been the victim of this type of intellectual property theft and who has successfully taken action against the perpetrators.

And editing sounds does not 'make them yours', any more than arranging a tune makes it 'yours'. Legally, they are 'derivatives' and any copyright still remains with the original holders.

It is not illegal, since the sound waves of a material when they are reprocessed will not be the same, what MX Sound sells is an emulation of the sound, but not the same sound, therefore it is not illegal, imagine that Yamaha, Korg, Roland will charge artists royalties for recording a song with their airwaves.

It's illogical.

[andyg]

You don't seem to understand 'intellectual property', which is what we're discussing here.

Someone (Yamaha, Korg, whoever) has spent a lot of time and money sampling and then processing them to make them playable in a keyboard. To then sample their samples or reverse engineer them is theft of their intellectual property and therefore IS illegal, however much you then do to the sounds. Look up the meaning of 'derivative' in this context. I won my own 'case' as it was clear cut, and didn't even have to go to court!

Yamaha actually do own the rights to the sounds and styles that we use, but they specifically allow us to use them in music production without paying them royalties.

I've seen several instances on various forums of reverse engineered sound libraries for keyboards. As yet, Yamaha et al don't seem to worried, as the figures are no doubt quite small and not worth them worrying about. But if they wanted to force the issue, they could.

[computec1349]

You don't seem to understand 'intellectual property', which is what we're discussing here.

Someone (Yamaha, Korg, whoever) has spent a lot of time and money sampling and then processing them to make them playable in a keyboard. To then sample their samples or reverse engineer them is theft of their intellectual property and therefore IS illegal, however much you then do to the sounds. Look up the meaning of 'derivative' in this context. I won my own 'case' as it was clear cut, and didn't even have to go to court!

Yamaha actually do own the rights to the sounds and styles that we use, but they specifically allow us to use them in music production without paying them royalties.

I've seen several instances on various forums of reverse engineered sound libraries for keyboards. As yet, Yamaha et al don't seem to worried, as the figures are no doubt quite small and not worth them worrying about. But if they wanted to force the issue, they could.

What if I tell them they have authorization?

So they have not said anything haha!

The purpose of these packages is so that people who do not have many economic resources to buy a tyros or a genos can have an emulation that allows them to play the rhythms and sounds.

Greetings.

[rodrigo.b]

You don't seem to understand 'intellectual property', which is what we're discussing here.

Someone (Yamaha, Korg, whoever) has spent a lot of time and money sampling and then processing them to make them playable in a keyboard. To then sample their samples or reverse engineer them is theft of their intellectual property and therefore IS illegal, however much you then do to the sounds. Look up the meaning of 'derivative' in this context. I won my own 'case' as it was clear cut, and didn't even have to go to court!

Yamaha actually do own the rights to the sounds and styles that we use, but they specifically allow us to use them in music production without paying them royalties.

I've seen several instances on various forums of reverse engineered sound libraries for keyboards. As yet, Yamaha et al don't seem to worried, as the figures are no doubt quite small and not worth them worrying about. But if they wanted to force the issue, they could.

The problem is that they don't let us to new create sounds like Sa or Megavoice factory voices, I think that's the reason because the expansion packs like the Ghenos are very important, for example it has a Megavoice Spanish guitar that is very useful for me. My PSR s970 doesn't come with this sound and Yamaha don't have an expansion pack with this kind of sound.

[rodrigo.b]

Here are 3 demos of styles from the pack https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vp_1AeWkW8_QEbOIbscDLV-uAleRQ2Kh

[computec1349]

https://usa.yamaha.com/about_yamaha/proprietary_rights_notice/index.html

MX-Sounds packages are within the law, as the sounds are emulations and are not made available to other brands only Yamaha. Greetings.

[EileenL]

Makes no difference they are still owned by Yamaha and are only intended for use in the keyboard they are on.

[Christopher Fernandes]

As of April 19, it's been over a week, their website is down.

https://mxsounds-store.ecwid.com/

[computec1349]

As of April 19, it's been over a week, their website is down.

https://mxsounds-store.ecwid.com/

Check this:
https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/

Regards

[DerekA]

They are using an out-of-the-box ecommerce provider, which has a copyright policy

https://www.ecwid.com/copyright-policy

It would be nice if someone from Yamaha reported them.

[computec1349]

They are using an out-of-the-box ecommerce provider, which has a copyright policy

https://www.ecwid.com/copyright-policy

It would be nice if someone from Yamaha reported them.

What is your problem?

[Christopher Fernandes]

Check this:
https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/

Regards

This is just for the S97X. There was a newer one specifically for PSR-SX900 with Genos Superior Pack content and S.Art2 voices. 

[computec1349]

Yes! Send a email to keyboardtipsmx@gmail.com

Regards.

[Christopher Fernandes]

As of April 19, it's been over a week, their website is down.

https://mxsounds-store.ecwid.com/

Their website is back again... with more expansion pack options. They've renamed the packs as well as the contents (mostly voices eg. Dyno Drums instead of Revo! Drums, etc.)

https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/



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[DerekA]

I wonder why they renamed things when it's all so above board.

In fact, they tell me that "Yamaha has authorized us to sell it"

So that's that cleared up then.

[Christopher Fernandes]

Has anyone already purchased this? Would be nice if any of you could post some audio samples for us to listen without any EQ/Comp settings? Especially with Sax instruments or styles with Vintage Kits/Stick Kits?

[Henni]

They are using an out-of-the-box ecommerce provider, which has a copyright policy

https://www.ecwid.com/copyright-policy

It would be nice if someone from Yamaha reported them.

For all the nay sayers:

IMPORTANT INFORMATION.This product does not use samples from / the original instruments, it uses emulation based on samples created in the recording studio. This product does not violate any copyright law.Styles are not the property of this package, they are included for demonstration purposes only.Sale and distribution without the express permission of PlaySounds Corporation of United States is prohibited.

I purchased one of their products for my late S770 a while ago. It will transform your arranger into something you would not believe when you hear it. Well worth the purchase price.

Should I ever be in a position to afford a SX900 in future, I will upgrade it with  this package immediate after the purchase.

[beykock]

Hi Henni :

Thank you very much for your feedback. 🙏

I would be very grateful to know more about this product.
Owning an SX700, I would like to hear from you if it is worth to buy this pack for my keyboard and why.

Thank you very much for your reply.

Best wishes, Babette

[Henni]

You will not only NOT regret your purchase - you will be AMAZED by the end results.

Go ahead and purchase it and then give some more feedback over here after playing with it for a few days.

Main reason - The SX700 does not have Revo drums & neither does the SX900. It (SX900) has a watered down version of it instead.

This package will give you REAL Revo drums with the Round Robin playstyle included with maybe less layers than the Yamaha version. However you will hardly notice the difference.

Next it comes with most of the Genos styles already re-voiced to the new drums and voices. It turned my late S770 into something stunning. I am sure it will do same for your SX700. Also, it costs only $60/$79 which is not such a huge investment for those whose financial lives are still working in a simi-normal way.

Then later, should you be up to it, you can re-voice all your onboard SX700 styles to use the actual Revo drums also which will make for a huge overall improvement.

It certainly was the BEST money ever spent on the S770 when I still had it!