What could be improved on the SX900 / 700

[EileenL]

Because you are using older registrations on a newer keyboard that now has three right hand voices the keyboard is defaulting to this setting because it was not needed in previous PSR  keyboards so there was no place for it.
 

[Enildo]

Because you are using older registrations on a newer keyboard that now has three right hand voices the keyboard is defaulting to this setting because it was not needed in previous PSR  keyboards so there was no place for it.

Yes I know. But why not come with the Touch Response marked and the voice at volume 100? It is the standard.

Can't yamaha fix this?

[Fred Smith]

Yes I know. But why not come with the Touch Response marked and the voice at volume 100? It is the standard.

Can't yamaha fix this?

How would they fix it?

Your registration was created on a different keyboard. It was created with a volume of 127 in R3. Yes, I know that was a stupid value to set, but it's done.

How does your new keyboard know that you don't want 127 as the volume? As far as it knows, you do, because that's what's in the registration. Same with initial touch.

A better idea is for you to fix your registrations with Murray Best's YRM. You can do them all in one batch. Then you don't have to wait for Yamaha.

Cheers,
Fred

[Enildo]

How would they fix it?

Your registration was created on a different keyboard. It was created with a volume of 127 in R3. Yes, I know that was a stupid value to set, but it's done.

How does your new keyboard know that you don't want 127 as the volume? As far as it knows, you do, because that's what's in the registration. Same with initial touch.

A better idea is for you to fix your registrations with Murray Best's YRM. You can do them all in one batch. Then you don't have to wait for Yamaha.

Cheers,
Fred

Okay, are you telling me that when I created my records on the s975, which only had the R1 R2, the R3 was created automatically (with the Touch unchecked and the volume at 127)?
I think the R3 was added by yamaha with these parameters and it has nothing to do with the creation in the previous models, as they did not exist.
About the repairs, for me, I'm already doing it manually when I need to, but we have to think about the other thousands of people who are still going to buy the SX models.
Yes, I hope yamaha will fix this, if possible.

Cheers,
Enildo

[Dnj]

How about a few choices of keyboard color & 61 or 76 keys for sx900/sx700?....Black, Red, Silver, etc?

also an ONBOARD  RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?

XLR Mic input .

Playlist to include separate songs with all perimeters saved, Mp3s, Smf also in one list

and of course a larger  Tilt up display

[ton37]

How about a few choices of keyboard color & 61 or 76 keys for sx900/sx700?....Black, Red, Silver, etc?

also an ONBOARD  RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?

XLR Mic input .

Playlist to include separate songs with all perimeters saved, Mp3s, Smf also in one list

and of course a larger  Tilt up display

If, and only if, Yamaha does this once (upon a time), then at first we will see the launch of the Genos2 . But nevertheless, one is allowed to dream on 

[Enildo]

also an ONBOARD  RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?

I've been saying this for a long time.
How about if we had at least one indicator light on the Display?
Similar to the image below.

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[Fred Smith]

Okay, are you telling me that when I created my records on the s975, which only had the R1 R2, the R3 was created automatically (with the Touch unchecked and the volume at 127)?
I think the R3 was added by yamaha with these parameters and it has nothing to do with the creation in the previous models, as they did not exist.
About the repairs, for me, I'm already doing it manually when I need to, but we have to think about the other thousands of people who are still going to buy the SX models.
Yes, I hope yamaha will fix this, if possible.

My apologies, Enildo. My mistake. I thought you wanted your problem solved. Sorry to interrupt your rant.

Cheers,
Fred

[Enildo]

My apologies, Enildo. My mistake. I thought you wanted your problem solved. Sorry to interrupt your rant.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi Fred

I can not understand you. Are you really apologizing or are you being sarcastic?
I think the forum is a place where people have different points of view and I don't know why the anger.
I really want to thank you for your help, I know that you are an active participant in the forum and help a lot of people and have even helped me.
I want to continue to count on your support, but we don't need to fight with words, ironies or sarcasm. It doesn't help at all.
I am not the owner of reason, I may be wrong, but besides solving a problem I don't see where the harm is in asking or giving my opinion.
Get that hate out of your heart, it doesn't do you good.
If you believed in God, I ask God to bless you, really, and I'm sorry for any rudeness on my part.

Cheers,
Enildo

[hans1966]

Hello Enildo, I also happened with my records of my previous S975. Rh3 is too strong. I agree with you that this "empty" voice can be adjusted to a standard volume of 100. Both this and the aforementioned errors can be fixed with a fimware update. Now my opinion is, this forum is wonderful and we can express our opinion or concern regarding our organizing keyboards, and I believe that an atmosphere of cordiality and support should be maintained as much as possible at all times, understanding that each member have your needs. I also believe that Yamaha is currently working on an upcoming fimware update, where possibly the most relevant problems will be solved. Cheers. Hans

[Enildo]

Using Fred's tip, I tried to make changes faster with Murray Best's Registration Memory Editing Program.
It is a very good program, but I have not found the new SX models.
I tried with Tyros or Genos and managed to solve the R3 volume by adding voice 3 to the program, but I didn't see the "Initial Touch" option.
Can anyone help me find this function?

Greetings,
Enildo

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[Patrick]

Hi Enildo for YRM, Murray Best have made an special upload for the SX900 link at the end of the page, all the best Patrick

https://psrtutorial.com/util/best.html

[Enildo]

Hi Enildo for YRM, Murray Best have made an special upload for the SX900 link at the end of the page, all the best Patrick

https://psrtutorial.com/util/best.html

Thank you very much Patrick, it worked perfectly.
You can tell if the program has the function, "initial Touch" (On / Off).
According to Fred it exists, but I haven't found it.

Cheers,
Enido

[overover]

Hi Enildo,

when you are in "Registration Edit" window (after double-clicking a certain Registration ( 1 - 8 ), switch the drop-down box "Touch" (to the right of "Upper Octave") to "On". Then click on "Assign" button right beside. Here you can assign "Touch" to the desired Voices (R1, R2, R3, Left).


Best regards,
Chris

[Enildo]

Hi Enildo,

when you are in "Registration Edit" window (after double-clicking a certain Registration ( 1 - 8 ), switch the drop-down box "Touch" (to the right of "Upper Octave") to "On". Then click on "Assign" button right beside. Here you can assign "Touch" to the desired Voices (R1, R2, R3, Left).


Best regards,
Chris

Thanks Chris, now I see! Hehehe
This Murray program makes it a lot easier.

Still, if there was a way for yamaha to fix this in the next firmware it would be great. Because even with the program the work is done one by one. Sorry to insist on this rhetoric, but this is the purpose of this post, requesting that yamaha carry out the repairs, which are possible in the next system update.

Thanks to all for your help!
Enildo

[Enildo]

I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
  I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans

Hi Hans!
I found that you can press and hold the forward and backward buttons of Song or Audio play a little, you can use the dial button to fast forward or rewind.
It is even possible to use the Dec and Inc buttons below the Dial.

Enildo

[hans1966]

Hello Enildo, what you say is valid for the song playback mode, but if you go to the main page of the song recorder, and try to rewind or fast forward with the dial wheel, this does not work, since it always you must access to the screen and touchin the virtual buttons. This was not the case with S975. Cheers. Hans

[Enildo]

Hello Enildo, what you say is valid for the song playback mode, but if you go to the main page of the song recorder, and try to rewind or fast forward with the dial wheel, this does not work, since it always you must access to the screen and touchin the virtual buttons. This was not the case with S975. Cheers. Hans

Exact. I discovered this other way and I'm sharing it here.

Greetings,
Enildo

[Misu]

Hi,

Short answer is EVERYTHING.
Looking back to T4 - Voice creator; color contrast.
Looking to Genos: Sound (SArt2); key-bed; size of screen...)
Looking to competitor too many function to remember here.
Long space in front to lunch many PSR series with <news>.
The perfect keyboard is made to don't have next generation (so, to die).
At this moment the solidity of case is not in my list.

Regards
Mihai

[nick G]

Here's my initial thoughts:

1) FAVOURITES: When you allocate a new "favourite" voice or style - as soon as it works you automatically get reset to page 1 of that category... very annoying why cant it just keep you on the current page you were on?

2) PIANO VOICE: I didn't by my PSR SX 900 for the piano voice as I have other keyboards for that BUT they really need to upgrade the expressiveness of the piano voice - the SA Concert Grand is rubbish for current day and age... seriously... it needs more samples in the dynamic velocity range of 0-127.

3) STEP EDITOR (Style and Midi Song): We should be able to do a "select all" instead of having to do "Multi Select" and keep pressing (or hold) the arrow buttons to scroll down and select more than one event.

4) STEP EDITOR (style and Midi Song): We should be able to do a granular "select all" where we can select all of a certain note only for example: I want to select every note that is above the C0 range or only all C0 notes to make edits to them such as volume or velocity... currently you need to manually press each one individually as you scroll down the list of events

5) Drum Edit: any of the drum track channels in a Midi song should be fully editable down to each individual sample being played in the drum track (individual note volume, velocity, reverb, re voicing etc) (without manually scrolling and doing it through the step editor) ... Roland has had this in their style and song "make up tools" for about 20+ years?

6) Another missing feature: Octave shift of the bass note being played when Accomp is on but the style is off (and editability of the bass note - re voicing?) - also being able to leave it on auto hold as well as the pad voice being played that is following your chord progression while the style is off...

7) CUSTOM DRUM KIT CREATOR PLEASE.........................

The PSR SX 900 has "work station" functionality but when compared to level of workstation functionality with other branded boards it doesnt go as deep... the above tweaks would definitely take it right up there...

[hans1966]

Hi Nick G, good points.  I would add something else to the event editor in the Song Creator, the possibility to Copy Multiple Channels at once (4 or 6 as minimum)  with their corresponding events to a part of a musical arrangement  (Intro, verse or chorus) and Paste them to another part of it. for example, if the Intro is equal to the beginning to the middle, instead of being recorded again part by part, the required parts are simply copied, and pasted at the exact point where it requires it to be pasted. this would save a lot of time. Logically I am talking about own composition and arrangements, which do NOT include the styles and arrangements that are on the keyboard, since if it were that way, the Intro or Varation of the style itself, at a certain point, would be recorded again, but Obviously it is to record again, and not Copy and Paste.  Greetings.  Hans

[Enildo]

Will we ever be able to have this function.
Sometimes we want to hear something off, or rehearse a little in public, and it would be great if we could only hear the keyboard on the headphone and the main outputs (L & R) are disabled.

Enildo

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[Ed B]

Hi
See page 128 of the reference manual:
"Determines how the sound is output to the speaker of this instrument.
• Headphone Switch: Speaker sounds normally, but is cut off when headphones are inserted
to the [PHONES] jack.
• On: Speaker sound is always on.
• Off: Speaker sound is off. You can only hear the instrument sound via the headphones or an
external device connected to the AUX OUT jacks."
Regards
Ed

[Enildo]

Hi
See page 128 of the reference manual:
"Determines how the sound is output to the speaker of this instrument.
• Headphone Switch: Speaker sounds normally, but is cut off when headphones are inserted
to the [PHONES] jack.
• On: Speaker sound is always on.
• Off: Speaker sound is off. You can only hear the instrument sound via the headphones or an
external device connected to the AUX OUT jacks."
Regards
Ed

Thanks for the answer ED.
Yes, I know how the "speaker" function on the keyboard works, but I wish we had the option of listening to the instrument only through headphones, and both the keyboard speakers and all the outputs (L&R and Sub) were disabled. When we are at a live show, we sometimes have to hear the speed of a style, the sound or a mix of a voice, a vignette, or do a little rehearsal before playing, and it would be very important that only we heard the instrument and the public is not. Even the keyboard connected to external speakers, the sound could only be heard on the headphones.
I corrected my post to try to improve what I mean.

Enildo

[Christopher Fernandes]

2. troubleshoot problems, when changing sound from one variation to another, or from one register to another

If I'm not wrong, I think what you're talking about here is that really bad transition that happens when you quickly change a voice when playing? That's actually something called "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS)" (found on Yamaha's MODX and Montage synthesizers) that lets you change voices seamlessly without any cut-off in envelope or effects.

It's not even there in the $5000 Genos... which for that price is a bit of a shame.

[Joe H]

Christopher,

I agree completely.  We have had an issue with many features that were present on the Motif and never implemented on the arranger.  One of the the things that was finally upgraded was the capacity of the on-board sequencer from 400k to 3MB.

From the Montage User Manual:

"Seamless Sound Switching" is a feature that lets you switch Performances smoothly without any notes being cut off. The SSS
feature is available for all Preset Bank Performances in this instrument. However, SSS is available only for the Performance
containing Parts 1 – 8, not for the Performance with using Parts 9– 16

This could easily be implemented on the arranger if there were technical sharing between the synth group and the arranger group at Yamaha.

Joe H

[hans1966]

If I'm not wrong, I think what you're talking about here is that really bad transition that happens when you quickly change a voice when playing? That's actually something called "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS)" (found on Yamaha's MODX and Montage synthesizers) that lets you change voices seamlessly without any cut-off in envelope or effects.

It's not even there in the $5000 Genos... which for that price is a bit of a shame.

Hi Christopher, yes, that's exactly what I mean. This is quite annoying, especially when played live. Hans

[hans1966]

Christopher,

I agree completely.  We have had an issue with many features that were present on the Motif and never implemented on the arranger.  One of the the things that was finally upgraded was the capacity of the on-board sequencer from 400k to 3MB.

From the Montage User Manual:

"Seamless Sound Switching" is a feature that lets you switch Performances smoothly without any notes being cut off. The SSS
feature is available for all Preset Bank Performances in this instrument. However, SSS is available only for the Performance
containing Parts 1 – 8, not for the Performance with using Parts 9– 16

This could easily be implemented on the arranger if there were technical sharing between the synth group and the arranger group at Yamaha.

Joe H

Hi Joe, you are right. it would be interesting if yamaha implements this function in the arrangers line. you have to wait and see. Hans

[hans1966]

Hi guys, there is something I experience especially when I use a style, (either from the factory or from an expansion) to record a MIDI song, and it is the following: while I'm recording, it sounds great, but when you play the recording you hear cut the notes of some instruments, especially when you have to do a chord progression. when this happens, I go back to record the song several times with the same style, thinking that maybe it is my bad fingering, trying to make the most precise changes, but again I get the same result. As if that were not enough, I have problems when I use the sync / stop function during recording to introduce some cuts. for example: if the measurement is 4/4, and I want to record 4 quarter notes, (synchronized chords) the keyboard only recognizes 2, the rest remain silent. on several occasions I have had to record the cuts one by one on other channels, thus using more channels than necessary, since it should be done directly from the style. honestly this is very annoying as it significantly slows down the workflow. I want to add that this problem comes from the S900, and today with the SX900 it has NOT yet been solved. I hope Yamaha takes note of these bugs and can correct them in an upcoming fimware update. Hans

[Joe H]

Hans,

What you describe sounds like notes are getting truncated. This happens when you exceed the total polyphony or the reserved number of notes assigned to each channel. I don't know if this info is in the Data List Book. You say this happened on your PSR 900 as well.  I don't recall experiencing this with my S910 or S970.

If others have experienced this then it should be reported to Yamaha.

Joe H