What could be improved on the SX900 / 700

[Enildo]

Hello everybody!
I am opening this topic and I would like the opinion of all interested parties who want "possible" changes or updates to the SX900 / 700 system.
Here is my first suggestion:

I don't know why yamaha didn't put the active track "LEDs" in the "Mixer" function next to the track icon. When we are in "PAN / VOLUME" we see them, but when we are in other functions like Filter, EQ, Effect, or Chorus / Reverb, we have no way of knowing which tracks are active, to make a selection and apply changes.

Enildo

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[Enildo]

In the Channel On / Off function, this is already the case.

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[Aquilauno]

meanwhile a small "physical" modification. It bothered me not to see how the volume is positioned ...
Dear Yamaha, the notch there is , but if it is not visible to the naked eye, what sense does it make?

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[Joe H]

Add foot pedal assignment for Live Control knob (copy current knob1 or knob2) so we can use Live Control with a foot pedal.

Joe H

[Enildo]

meanwhile a small "physical" modification. It bothered me not to see how the volume is positioned ...
Dear Yamaha, the notch there is , but if it is not visible to the naked eye, what sense does it make?

I had already done this with liquid paper too!
I also passed Live Controls and microfone volume.


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[ton37]

Yeah, a musician has to be creative  , unfortunately.  The Yammie designers should have empathized with users: all those black letters, numbers and markings on black buttons ...  mmm..  such a basic mistake... , not very smart thinkin' 

[hans1966]

Hello everyone, I still insist on the same topic:
correction of sound degradation in WAV / MP3 format, especially when using song files with the following functions: Vocal Cancellation, Time Stretch and Tone Change. I think these functions are unnecessary since they are not giving the expected result. I know that this has been discussed before and some people have suggested using external software on PC, but I simply do not agree since the above mentioned functions should work correctly, it is also an expensive keyboard to not be able to enjoy these functions. Hopefully this can be solved in an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans

[hans1966]

There is another thing that I do not understand and is: why is a MIDI or Mp3 file activated or both when selecting any button of the register bank? since I have not checked / assigned any boxes corresponding to MIDI or AUDIO songs. It also happens that when I select a MIDI song, the right voices are turned off. what is this about? I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem. regards. Hans

[rapaz]

As a confused old guy with a new SX700, I think the biggest improvement for me would be better documentation. I swear it was written by a committee of blind men that thought they were designing a camel. As one of our Forum members said. Here's all the parts you need, now turn them into a car. 

Thank heaven for Joe's work. It's keeping me out of the nuthouse. Most of what I find on the internet are many players showing their performance skills, but not providing much usable how-to information.

[Aquilauno]

One thing that should be fixed as soon as possible is this (already reported by another forum member, but I don't remember who ...):
Reading from usb in a folder containing a large number of files causes a block of the entire keyboard for a time proportional to the number of files. This event cannot be stopped in any way other than whit to shuting down the SX900. It would be appreciated the possibility to interrupt the reading process if it were possible or to have a warning on the screen that informs that you are about to upload at high number of files . Among other things, the keyboard remains locked and if a style is in play it is not possible to interrupt it ... 

PS:I have a tough learning curve for this new keyboard, my first one was over 30 years ago and it was a old Korg Wavestation Ex.
I'm starting out but little by little I'm  getting my hand back, I will need a lot of time and a lot of exercise lol.
By mistake I uploaded a folder with over 3000 styles to usb and the SX900 didn't really like him. For 10 minutes she continued to load while remaining frozen on the stle I was playing and the only way to get out of it was to turn it off. I therefore tried to drastically reduce the number of files.
But, today I purchased a Samsung 64 Gb USB stik (the mini one) was recognized and formatted without problems. I tried to increase the no. of files for each folder, up to 2000 files the sx900 had no file management problems, at 3000 it warned me after a minute of loading that the number of files is excessive. But this time it did not go into a loop and it warned me therefore it depends on the quality and speed the reading / writing of the USB (this Samsung is 200x speed) for a perfect compatibility.

important I noticed that when accessing the usb of the keyboard the expansion/user led  flashes, it is good practice to press exit for stopping the flashes before disconnecting the usb stik ...

[EileenL]

Hi Hans,
  Are you using registrations you have set up yourself.  If so did you make sure that the ticks in the memory section were unticked before saving. If you are using third party registrations then they may well have been set like this in which case alter them to how you want them and resave.
There is always an answer.
  Vocal cancellation will only work correctly on recordings specially  recorded for this purpose. The vocal has to be on a completely separate track to work correctly were as most commercial MPS files the vocal is mixed in with the instrumentals.

[Toril S]

My tip about buttons is to memorize what each button does, and than you can press it without reading the letter on it. That is how I do it due to low vision. I don't have to read on the buttons, just know where they are to hit them. Genos and Tyros is great because the light on the buttons are so bright. I wish that the PSRs had the same system with the whole button lit from the inside. However, I managed with my PSR-2100 for 14 years, with very small light and silver buttons on silver panel

[rcpilot]

3rd foot pedal port.
White paint in ALL the places where there is a notch etc but can't see it.
Re-balancing the sounds on all styles that are poorly balanced
more to come shortly.....
Lee

[hans1966]

I hate having to make comparisons, but I have no choice. In August 2015 I bought a Korg PA600, and used Mp3 audio files, I could change the tone (+ 1 + 2 + 3-1-2-3) and the time without problems. There was never any degradation of sound. but I must clarify that although the PA600 shines in that part, its operating system is complex and not very intuitive when it comes to playing live,on that and as for the quality of the voices, Yamaha goes beyond. I know that Korg lovers will say that it is possible to edit a sound and even modify it completely through its oscillators, filters and effects, but it is too much work that you can save on Yamaha, since the voices are almost perfect than with a little touch up, can be molded to your liking. That is why the PA600 was only six months in my house, then I returned to Yamaha with the PSR-S970. I DO NOT mean by this that Korg is bad, I just feel more comfortable with the Yamaha operating system. regards. Hans

[rcpilot]

I wish the whole buttons were lit too...BUT one BIG negative to me is if you are playing more quietly (during quiet passages) like in some songs I do ....when you hit those Tyros or Genos buttons you and your audience get that click noise from the button push. So I don't want that to get lit buttons. It is loud enough to be intrusive! Everybody doesn't always play loud music, Ha, Ha...
Oh, this happens between section of songs to when there is a pause in playing.....
I hope Yamaha changes that on next models...but SX-900 would be nice to light all the button.
Lee

[Pino]

Hasn't Yamaha been careless I their decision to incorporate these noisy glass marbles as buttons.
Did they buy a job lot of 1,000's and trying to use them up wherever they can.
I have Roland, Ketron and Korg Keyboards. They all have quiet buttons.

I gig first 2 hours before the main band, I am back my home by 11pm when I go through anything I need to edit more or rehearse more. When I had a Tyros my children used to complain in the next bedroom of the clicking noise and even my next door neighbour in the semi next door did ask what the clicking noise was late at night.

I sold the Tyros and never went for nothing more than a PSR after that, now SX900.
Does not make any sense, and they show the Genos in a recording studio.

Pino

[Kauaiguy]

As a confused old guy with a new SX700, I think the biggest improvement for me would be better documentation. I swear it was written by a committee of blind men that thought they were designing a camel. As one of our Forum members said. Here's all the parts you need, now turn them into a car. 

Thank heaven for Joe's work. It's keeping me out of the nuthouse. Most of what I find on the internet are many players showing their performance skills, but not providing much usable how-to information.

LOL ... I couldn't agree with you more.   And the more I read the manual the more confuse I get.  Now I find out that there are two manuals for the PSR's  :  An owners manual and a reference manual, which I downloaded but didn't help!

[hans1966]

I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
  I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans

[Enildo]

I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
  I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans

Good observation Hans! I didn't know it had this flaw, it would be very good for the yamaha to make this repair.

[hans1966]

Hello Enildo, this is annoying because sometimes the forward and backward buttons are passed from one song to another, and time is wasted looking for the exact point of the song. regards. Hans

[hans1966]

Another aspect to correct is: the change from one sound to another, when a style is being played and passed from one variation to another. The transition is quite annoying to the ear. It is heard as a kind of strong blow when moving from one instrument to another, especially when it is necessary to play a bit longer notes in the melody, and proceed to change the instrument. This is more than everything when playing live. regards. Hans

[rcpilot]

Hans, yes that is a big issue...I'l told very hard to fix....but all can be done with todays technology...Yamaha just has to step up to it.
Lee

[Toril S]

LOL, yes the buttons on the Tyros click loudly😀

[EileenL]

Why not do your registration changes with the foot switches as this is silent.

[Enildo]

I'm not liking the new system of seeing letters on the SX900. In the s970 / 75 they had the standard size of 15 lines X 59 characters (one of the options),
which was very good, and the SX900 doesn't have it. In SX, when it's not too small, it's too big. Please yamaha, update this.
Other sizes could be created as long as the old ones were preserved.
It is very annoying for users, who make the letters to use in a certain size, having to change everything with each new keyboard model launched.

Enildo

[Enildo]

Another important question:
Why to add one thing, it is necessary to remove another?
We have two USB outputs, but the video output has been sacrificed.
Wouldn't it be okay to have the two USB outputs + HDMI output?
Or at least leave the old VGA?
If we need to use a monitor now it is necessary to buy an adapter.
I did not agree, with this attitude of the company.

Enildo

[hans1966]

Hello Guys, something very strange is happening to me, and it is the following: sometimes when I am in a register bank and select any style of factory, some voices of the right hand are lost, and the volumes in the mixer are not visualized . I don't know why the volume reference in the mixer is lost, in this case I turn off the keyboard and turn it on again, and I choose any random style and then I can see the volumes of everything in the mixer. Is there anyone else who has happened this ?. regards. Hans

[Enildo]

Hello Guys, something very strange is happening to me, and it is the following: sometimes when I am in a register bank and select any style of factory, some voices of the right hand are lost, and the volumes in the mixer are not visualized . I don't know why the volume reference in the mixer is lost, in this case I turn off the keyboard and turn it on again, and I choose any random style and then I can see the volumes of everything in the mixer. Is there anyone else who has happened this ?. regards. Hans

Hello for all,

What is happening to me, in some situations, is that the indicator lights of the active trails are off, even though there is something playing there.
I have to go out and come back to see them lit again.

Yamaha needs to fix these small bugs.

Enildo

[hans1966]

Hi Enildo, thanks for the correction. I really didn't know how to express it better. A hug my friend. Hans

[Enyd]

I put a red, stick on dot on the On/Off switch as that is difficult to see in low lighting.