PSR-SX600 clone release: Medeli AKX10

[voodoo]

Look at this video

  https://youtu.be/u_4D00qRoSs

It seems a Chinese company has released a PSR-SX clone that easily outperforms the PSR-S670 with lots of features of the SX900

  http://www.medeli.com.hk/x10

It has 7" touch screen, three right parts, USB audio (!) and midi, Bluetooth audio and midi (!), and much more, and all this for $800.

Of course it will not sound as good as a PRS-SX. But it shows, which features a low priced keyboard could have.

I think Yamaha is in charge to facelift the outdated PSR-S670 now.

Uli

[SeaGtGruff]

I don't know if this can be called a "PSR-SX600 clone" when there is no PSR-SX600 in the first place.

But it certainly looks very, very interesting!

[Enildo]

I think yamaha will have to give an answer.

MEDELI AKX10:
* KEYBOARD 61 keys (touch response)
* DISPLAY 7 "touch screen
* MAX POLYPHONY 256
* VOICE 1100 + 256 GM2 + 512 users
* STYLE 280 + 512 users
* SONG DEMO 3
* MUSIC LIBRARY 90 songs • Album (50 + 512 users)
* 2 x 15 watt AMPLIFIER • 2 x 25 watt
* SPEAKER 2 x 12 cm • 2 x 3 cm
* Touch screen;
* L + R1 + R2 + R3;
* PERFORMANCE MEMORY 8 x 512 banks;
* AUDIO PLAYBACK MP3 • WAV • AAC (Vocal Remove);
* Joystick PITCHBEND Yes MODULATION Yes PITCH ADJUSTMENT Transpose;
* Bluetooth audio;
* Bluetooth MIDI;
* 4 phrase Pads × 180 banks INTERACTION & EXPANSION Bluetooth;
* USB-Audio;
* Internal storage (256MB sample expansion)
* EXTERNAL USB DRIVE (128G max);
* 3 vocoder;
* 3 vocal harmony;
* MASTER EQ 5 + 10 users MIXER;
* And more...

Of course it's not a clone of the SX600, because it doesn't even exist I think, but it will fill the vacuum that yamaha left with the absence of the s670's successor. It is a slice of the market that yamaha left waiting and gave no satisfaction.

Enildo

[Enildo]

Price seems to be compatible with S670

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[tomsixtwo]

I think yamaha will have to give an answer.

I don't think so, at least not soon and not in form of an PSR-S670 successor. Because some of the Medeli's specs are better than the specs of the PSR-SX900, e. g. polyphony, USB Audio etc.

But, as we all know: Pure specs are not the whole story

Early video demo with an prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXApifudRYU

[SeaGtGruff]

some of the Medeli's specs are better than the specs of the PSR-SX900

Which is another reason this isn't a "clone" of a PSR-SX model.

[panos]

I have watched also the other video with the keyboardist playing the AKX10
This is how the acoustic guitar sounds on s670 for an example (without birds singing while playing a guitar sound)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3BNd2elrsg

Nice features,beautiful keyboard but how about the sound of it?

[ppkeyboard]

Will Yamaha (song)styles work on this instrument?

[tomsixtwo]

At the NAMM in 2019 I had hoped for a successor to the PSR-S670 and was deeply disappointed. Therefore I have no expectations this year 

[SeaGtGruff]

It's doubtful that Yamaha style files will work with the Medeli brand, but they can probably be converted if you know what style file structure Medeli uses.

As for NAMM, there's only a few more days before we find out what everyone (Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Casio, etc.) is presenting at NAMM.

[pquenin]

This Medeli AKX10 is beautiful and sounds good (more like a PSR-E463 than a PSR-Sxxx), but I'm waiting to have more informations about the buid quality. A great instrument can be ruined by a bad keybed (I have experienced this with the Casio MZ-X300). Here in France, the price of the Medeli AKX10 is 730€ and is way more expensive than a PSR-S670 that is 550€. And I'm sure that the S670 sounds better. But if the build quality of the Medeli is good and the price falls to 600€, maybe I will go for it. I still have my PSR-S670 and it's a great instrument, you can do a lot with it, but I can't stand it's look.

[tomsixtwo]

Regarding to the details in the manual (http://www.mecldata.com/download/manual/AKX10_OM05_EN_190816.pdf), it seems to be not really a strong competition for the PSR-SX models. Featurewise it seems to be more a "modern" alternative to the PSR-S670.

[panos]

I still have my PSR-S670 and it's a great instrument, you can do a lot with it, but I can't stand it's look.

I think companies like Medeli are focusing more on markets and big countries where the wages are lower than USA/Canada,northern Europe,Japan etc.

Competition is always good anyway.

[DerekA]

Does this thing actually have any original features, or have they just copied every single idea from Yamaha !

[Misu]

Does this thing actually have any original features, or have they just copied every single idea from Yamaha !

Compare with SX-700 yes have:
* MAX POLYPHONY 256
* AUDIO PLAYBACK  AAC
* Bluetooth audio;
* Bluetooth MIDI;
* 3 vocoder;
* 3 vocal harmony;
and maybe more....
Regards
Mihai

[DerekA]

I didn't mean compared to SX700, I meant compared to Yamaha models in general. There doesn't seem to be a single original idea in it.

[SeaGtGruff]

Which features were copied from Yamaha, as opposed to, say, Roland or Korg?

[Aquilauno]

I repeat something already expressed in another post for this new keyboard ... At what level is Medeli assistance compared to Yamaha? (especially in case of problems or possible malfunctions) is it reliable or is it a leap in the dark?
In the price of a product of this kind, the level of guaranteed assistance must also be considered. Do you agree?

[hans1966]

My concept is that Yamaha is a great company with many years of experience in the market and every product that lansa has been fully tested by sound engineers and professional musicians who are the ones that give the approval, in addition to the guarantee for failure or defect of manufacturing. As for Medeli, I think it is a good company, which is just growing, but it is far from being a competition for Yamaha. regards. Hans

[Aquilauno]

I agree Hans, currently we can count on Yamaha enthusiasts ready to share experiences, solve problems, learn to use well-tested and widespread keyboards, I wish Medeli to improve and grow more and more, also because the competition helps the consumers, but the road it is long and arduous ...

[Galvanizd]

Came on this one today and had to smile.  Some of you must be psychic.  I just received my Yamaha PSR SX 600 yesterday.

[DJIncendration]

I don't know if this can be called a "PSR-SX600 clone" when there is no PSR-SX600 in the first place.

But it certainly looks very, very interesting!

Yes, there is. I wish that it had some of the features that the AKX10 has, plus drums like the Revo drums of the 900, but it is what it is, and the sounds are really good on both keyboards.

[janamdo]

The PSR 600 has the same midi specification as his very big brother  GENOS
So you could record styles in Cakewalk sequenzer and there is mobil sheets pro for a songbook for PSR 600
I am also a owner of SX600

[Joe H]

Look at this video

  https://youtu.be/u_4D00qRoSs

It seems a Chinese company has released a PSR-SX clone that easily outperforms the PSR-S670 with lots of features of the SX900

  http://www.medeli.com.hk/x10

It has 7" touch screen, three right parts, USB audio (!) and midi, Bluetooth audio and midi (!), and much more, and all this for $800.

Of course it will not sound as good as a PRS-SX. But it shows, which features a low priced keyboard could have.

I think Yamaha is in charge to facelift the outdated PSR-S670 now.

Uli

Has Jeremy done an update on the Medeli AKX10 keyboard since that video was produced 15 months ago?

Joe H

[SeaGtGruff]

Yes, there is. I wish that it had some of the features that the AKX10 has, plus drums like the Revo drums of the 900, but it is what it is, and the sounds are really good on both keyboards.

Now there is. In January 2020 there was not.

[Toril S]

Stay far far away from it!

[janamdo]

Think on the Yamaha quality 

[DerekA]

I've just watched Jeremy See's latest video on the AKX10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIM5oxDG-8I

I think Yamaha should be seriously worried. There's no doubt that this has copied most of its design and operation from Yamaha. But it does it as well, if not better in some ways. Jeremy is especially impressed by the software - compare that to the almost universally hated YEM. I think this keyboard would be more appealing to younger people than the SX700 or even SX900 based on its price and styling.

I was also interested to learn Medeli is also the parent company of the Hydrasynth, which has some really interesting innovative features (e.g. multi-purpose mutators).

Don't get me wrong, I love my Genos; but Yamaha had better start moving or Medeli will eat its lunch.

[Joe H]

I watched the video to the end.  It is an impressive keyboard for sure for the price.  It may very well cause Yamaha to re-think pricing on the sx900 and add those feature found on the Medeli AKX10.

But... if you buy a AKX10 you are on your own.  You loose compatibility with Yamaha styles, MIDI files, (different Voice messages) and Yamaha and 3rd party expansion packs (a really big loss). And don't forget all the free software and commercial software for Yamaha arrangers that will no longer work with the Medeli keyboard.

While the AKX10 is a "big bank of the buck" so to speak, what you loose is a huge loss of software and support. 

Joe H

[hans1966]

Hi Guys, it looks like this is the same keyboard, but with a different reference.

For Latin America and Europe it is AKX10, but in China it is called A2000.

Here are the demo links apparently of the same keyboard.

regards

Hans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkvop0T5nBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaVvTbdS2ic