Intro 2 bars : Style tempo editor

soundphase · November 03, 2019, 04:48:39 AM

Hello all

I try to build a 2 bars intro for a 4/4 style. For this, I imagined doubling the tempo.
I used the Jososoft's "Style tempo editor" (thank you !), but it doesn't work. The value indicated into the software doesn't replace the chosen initial value

I looked into the file with StyleMagic, tempo indications are there....

On the Genos's screen, near the tempo indication, there is a lock that appears .... Strange. It seems to be the same with all styles....

Regards
Soundphase

overover · November 03, 2019, 05:38:13 AM

Quote from: soundphase on November 03, 2019, 04:48:39 AM
... On the Genos's screen, near the tempo indication, there is a lock that appears .... Strange. It seems to be the same with all styles....

Hi Soundphase,

please be sure to have set the "Change Behavior" for the Tempo to "Reset" (NOT to "Lock" or "Hold") in Style Setting.

This may be the reason for the "Lock" symbol near the Style Tempo in Main display.

Best regards,
Chris

panos · November 03, 2019, 07:21:59 AM

Hi soundphase,
2 bars in a 4/4 style with double tempo are equal to 1 bar of the 4/4 style with the normal tempo.
I don't know if it is wise to mess around with a double tempo in this case or there is another reason:eg you have style parts in 2 bars that you have to assembly.

soundphase · November 03, 2019, 10:20:07 AM

Quote from: panos on November 03, 2019, 07:21:59 AM
Hi soundphase,
2 bars in a 4/4 style with double tempo are equal to 1 bar of the 4/4 style with the normal tempo.
I don't know if it is wise to mess around with a double tempo in this case or there is another reason:eg you have style parts in 2 bars that you have to assembly.

Sorry my English is not good enough. I wanted to say "2 beats" and not "2 bars" (half-bar intro)

soundphase · November 03, 2019, 10:24:33 AM

Quote from: overover on November 03, 2019, 05:38:13 AM
Hi Soundphase,

please be sure to have set the "Change Behavior" for the Tempo to "Reset" (NOT to "Lock" or "Hold") in Style Setting.

This may be the reason for the "Lock" symbol near the Style Tempo in Main display.

Best regards,
Chris

Yes, that explains why the tempo is locked. Thank you !

Wim NL · November 03, 2019, 10:38:26 AM

Send me or attach the style.
And I will fix of for you.

soundphase · November 03, 2019, 10:50:50 AM

Quote from: Wim NL on November 03, 2019, 10:38:26 AM
Send me or attach the style.
And I will fix of for you.

Thank you Wim. But it's OK by replacing "lock" by "reset" for the parameter in the "Change Behaviour" section of the Style Setting option. My intro is now at Tempo 114, although my style is at 57. So I succeeded in simulating an half-bar intro.

overover · November 03, 2019, 01:33:00 PM

Quote from: soundphase on November 03, 2019, 10:24:33 AM
Yes, that explains why the tempo is locked. Thank you !

Hi Soundphase,

thank you for your quick feedback! I'm glad go could help you.

P.S.
The options "Lock" and "Hold" (at "Change Behavior - Tempo) are useful to quickly find a suitable style for a particular song title (at a given tempo). But for a" normal" use, this parameter should be set to "Reset", after such a "Style search process".

Best regards,
Chris

soundphase · November 04, 2019, 12:56:52 AM

I changed to « Lock » value as I found useful to keep the same tempo when I test the different styles to find the one that best suits a particular rendition.

valimaties · November 04, 2019, 01:46:04 AM

I use Hold, because it takes tempo of the last playing style but only if the changing of styles are made playing. If you stop the style playing and change the style, the tempo will be reset to the newly selected style default tempo.
Note: Tempo change behavior setting (Lock, Hold and Reset) does not work when you change styles using registrations and registration had "Tempo" ticked when you saved the registration

mikf · November 04, 2019, 11:05:34 AM

You could just build an intro where the the first two bars are silent. That seems pretty easy to do.
Mike

Fred Smith · November 04, 2019, 01:41:44 PM

Jorgen has a Style Half Bar Creator available here: https://www.psrtutorial.com/util/sorenson.html

I use it a lot.

Cheers,
Fred

soundphase · November 05, 2019, 01:20:14 AM

Quote from: mikf on November 04, 2019, 11:05:34 AM
You could just build an intro where the the first two bars are silent. That seems pretty easy to do.
Mike

It is an intro for a final part, and it is not played at the beginning.
As the tempo is slow, the 2 silent beats are too long to wait

soundphase · November 05, 2019, 01:24:23 AM

Quote from: Fred Smith on November 04, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
Jorgen has a Style Half Bar Creator available here: https://www.psrtutorial.com/util/sorenson.html

I use it a lot.

Cheers,
Fred

Thank you Fred. I will try it. It is a good solution. It's even better if thanks to this tool, it is no longer mandatory to fix the tempo in the style as I currently does.