Update Genos 1.4

[louwe46]

https://de.yamaha.com/de/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/update.html?fbclid=IwAR1ijisX9fxduIsFp08m5PZPF7ZqVriLgHSCH99xFSUT8jhup28I4qf4oCU#product-tabs

louwe

[DerekA]

English version

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/update.html#product-tabs

(If this is a final version, there are going to be some unhappy bunnies on here)

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

You will not get a lot for free
CUBASE COMPATIBILITY a must working with midi
Genos and Cubase need to converse better.
Upping the midi file capacity must mean more saving multi-record setup movements i hope.

[valimaties]

I really want to see a table content of Assignable functions

You will not get a lot for free
CUBASE COMPATIBILITY a must working with midi
Genos and Cubase need to converse better.
Upping the midi file capacity must mean more saving multi-record setup movements i hope.

Maybe they think this is a Steinberg job to do, not Yamaha's job...

...
(If this is a final version, there are going to be some unhappy bunnies on here)

Certainly...

Regards,
Vali

[Lee Batchelor]

I wonder if that is all the updates there are or are there more? If that's what they call a major update, I'd have to disagree. There's probably a lot more .

[valimaties]

I wonder if that is all the updates there are or are there more? If that's what they call a major update, I'd have to disagree. There's probably a lot more .

I think we have to wait to see... They might present only some of them...
Really, a table of content with all updates, on download page, with "What's new.." will bring lights on this update...

I think all updated functions, or new added functions, even if they are minor things, it has to be in a description of an update. Personally, I want to know if something minor (which might disappointed me in the past ) right now is corrected. Example, Sorting playlists records, can be a minor thing in an update. Or the operation of display controls, if they were corrected, it could be (for them) a minor update. But should be in description of the package, not only "fixed minor things"...

[stephenm52]

I wonder if that is all the updates there are or are there more? If that's what they call a major update, I'd have to disagree. There's probably a lot more .

Maybe the updates on the web page is just a teaser, maybe there is more to it.  No matter what I never expected anything earth shattering, after all Yamaha has a great product and they are masters at marketing, they know how to get the owners of Yamaha arrangers excited.

[valimaties]

... after all Yamaha has a great product and they are masters at marketing, they know how to get the owners of Yamaha arrangers excited.

LOL


Yamaha are the masters at marketing, of Yamaha products. Korg are the masters of marketing, of Korg products.
Everyone is a master in opinion of brand's users

IMO, is a brand which made some good stuff, but not masters. Master means "the best", perfect, and we all know non of the arrangers/synths or any electronic device is perfect!

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

I really want to see a table content of Assignable functions

Maybe they think this is a Steinberg job to do, not Yamaha's job... ---- Steinberg is part of Yamaha now or they own it.  All the best John

Certainly...

Regards,
Vali

[soryt]

Knowing Yamaha this is a nice piece of marketing to attract new customers, I did not expect a big change, so everything was nice.
I had the quiet hope that they would finally make a good replacement for the YEM program, unfortunately that is not the case. . . .

Soryt 

[panos]

hm...at least I've learned something new from the "Genos version up" video.
There is no such thing as a "fools day" in Japanese culture. Otherwise... 
Just kidding! 

The picture with the red light hitting Genos' front makes it really beautiful.

[CindyG]

Still no news about the update on the U.S.A pages - Apparently, they think we don't need to know about it! 

I'm glad to see they increased the MIDI maximum song file size to 3 MB. I hope that applies to quick MIDI record mode. I ran out of room doing a quick record recently.

[Fred Smith]

Amazing. The update hasn't even been released, yet the disparaging comments have already started.

At least  Yamaha knows there are some people who can never be pleased, and it's not worth trying to please them.

Cheers,
Fred

[pjd]

I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering with v1.4.

Genos (and Montage, for that matter) has the potential to be a platform that takes Yamaha through a few more years than previous product development cycles.

We've been raising Cain about the need for periodic updates. Now, we're getting an update, breaking with past Yamaha practice. Will there be more? Who knows? At least Yamaha is getting with the rest of the tech world by offering updates for its top-end products.

All the best -- pj

[tyrosman]

Amazing. The update hasn't even been released, yet the disparaging comments have already started.

At least  Yamaha knows there are some people who can never be pleased, and it's not worth trying to please them.

Cheers,
Fred

well said Fred

[EileenL]

YEM is a computer programme so would so would hardly be included in a keyboard update.

[beykock]

In less than 1 week the Genos update will be available.

I am sure all Genos owners will be very happy and there will be much more than most people are expecting, I think ! 💥

A real surprise, I guess.😉

Take care, Babette

[Bill]

Still no news about the update on the U.S.A pages - Apparently, they think we don't need to know about it!

I'm glad to see they increased the MIDI maximum song file size to 3 MB. I hope that applies to quick MIDI record mode. I ran out of room doing a quick record recently.

You have to look before you will see.

Home Display Improvement - Real-Time Awareness
Enjoy a complete overview of your Genos, letting you concentrate on what's important—your performance. The newly redesigned Home screen now offers information to give you at-a-glance comprehension of what's happening as you play.


1.Bar/Beat/Tempo: Displays the current position (bar/beat/tempo) in Style playback or MIDI Song playback.
2.Upper Octave/Transpose: Displays the amount that the upper octave value is shifted, and the amount of master transposition in semitone units
3.Song area: Displays the information of Time Signature, Tempo, the current position of Song.
4.Style area: The current position of the section playback, Tempo Lock.

Display Output
The new 1.4 update brings enhanced USB capabilities to the Genos. Connect a USB display adaptor to an external monitor via the [USB to DEVICE] terminal to show lyrics, scores, or other text.

User Interface Improvement - Live Control / Assignable
A new category-based interface makes assigning functions to the control knobs and buttons a simple, intuitive process. Update 1.4 makes even more functions assignable, all divided into easy-to-follow categories that make finding and assigning them a quick and easy process that you can perform on the fly if necessary.

User Inter face improvement : pop-up
The updated interface features on-screen pop-up windows displaying the results of any operations you make with them.

MIDI song max capacity per file
We have expanded the maximum size for MIDI song files to 3 MB, ten times the previous limit of 300 KB!

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/update.html#product-tabs

[metcam]

Maximum size for MIDI song files increased to 3 MB.

This is a great , great news and Yamaha thank you for that.


Some members of this forum including my self we begging Yamaha for years and now finally we have that.

Also that telling me Yamaha is here and listening. Also that telling me this is a good place to posting wishes ,problems  and all needs that Yamaha customer like to se in next update or next Keyboard.

Again Thank you Yamaha.

Regards

[acparker]

Display Output
The new 1.4 update brings enhanced USB capabilities to the Genos. Connect a USB display adaptor to an external monitor via the [USB to DEVICE] terminal to show lyrics, scores, or other text.

I call foul on this.  We have this already, I use it every Sunday to display the lyrics for the hymns at Church.

Adam

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

No good having scores display if there is no chord display.
Best sticking to the music sheets program for android HP slate 21 inch screen.
Yem should of been better, especially having to load everything each time you want a new pack.
The good thing is the midi expansion and asigning live control.
I am not particulaly worried about most of the updates as they are minor.
Better Daw integration would be the best for me

[Bill]

Display Output

I call foul on this.  We have this already, I use it every Sunday to display the lyrics for the hymns at Church.

I guess there is no pleasing some folks.

There are giving you two more displays so you would not expect them to take away what you have already.

Bill

[Fred Smith]

No good having scores display if there is no chord display.

The Score display includes chords as long as they're in the midi file.

Cheers,
Fred

[Pianoman]

Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed.

All this endless speculation and desires, one week before an update, will change nothing,
as whatever is in the update has already been decided upon months ago if not
a year ago.

It cannot and will not be changed no matter how much we speculate.
I don't think it's that easy for the engineers to change something at the last minute
because this or that person wishes it.

Wait for the update, and if your expectations haven't been met, start posting your wishes
again.

Best Regards,
Abby.

[Eric, B]

Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed.

All this endless speculation and desires, one week before an update, will change nothing,
as whatever is in the update has already been decided upon months ago if not
a year ago.

It cannot and will not be changed no matter how much we speculate.
I don't think it's that easy for the engineers to change something at the last minute
because this or that person wishes it.

Wait for the update, and if your expectations haven't been met, start posting your wishes
again.

Best Regards,
Abby.

Well said.
Thank you Abby
Eric

[CindyG]

You have to look before you will see.

Home Display Improvement - Real-Time Awareness
Enjoy a complete overview of your Genos, letting you concentrate on what's important—your performance. The newly redesigned Home screen now offers information to give you at-a-glance comprehension of what's happening as you play.


1.Bar/Beat/Tempo: Displays the current position (bar/beat/tempo) in Style playback or MIDI Song playback.
2.Upper Octave/Transpose: Displays the amount that the upper octave value is shifted, and the amount of master transposition in semitone units
3.Song area: Displays the information of Time Signature, Tempo, the current position of Song.
4.Style area: The current position of the section playback, Tempo Lock.

Display Output
The new 1.4 update brings enhanced USB capabilities to the Genos. Connect a USB display adaptor to an external monitor via the [USB to DEVICE] terminal to show lyrics, scores, or other text.

User Interface Improvement - Live Control / Assignable
A new category-based interface makes assigning functions to the control knobs and buttons a simple, intuitive process. Update 1.4 makes even more functions assignable, all divided into easy-to-follow categories that make finding and assigning them a quick and easy process that you can perform on the fly if necessary.

User Inter face improvement : pop-up
The updated interface features on-screen pop-up windows displaying the results of any operations you make with them.

MIDI song max capacity per file
We have expanded the maximum size for MIDI song files to 3 MB, ten times the previous limit of 300 KB!

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/update.html#product-tabs

Thanks - I did see the information on the UK Yamaha site. What I meant to say was that there was no information on the United States Yamaha site about the update. In fact, I wouldn't have known about the update at all if it weren't for the good folks here talking about it, for which I am grateful.  I just think that Yamaha should post the information on all of their international web sites, including the United States one.

[panos]

The Score display includes chords as long as they're in the midi file.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi John,
connect a midi cable between the 2 ports of the midi in and midi out of your keyboard, choose the channel or the channels (from the midi settings menu) that they have the notes that can help the genos to read the chords (usually a channel witn strings or a guitar playing chords),
use the Song Creator to re-record the song.
(In fact you just have to let the midi play all the way through with the rec mode on and let the Genos figure out what chords the notes are formatting)

Then the "new" midi will display the chords along with the sheet music on your screen.

[StuartR]

Display Output
The new 1.4 update brings enhanced USB capabilities to the Genos. Connect a USB display adaptor to an external monitor via the [USB to DEVICE] terminal to show lyrics, scores, or other text.

I call foul on this.  We have this already, I use it every Sunday to display the lyrics for the hymns at Church.

Adam

Ah.... but perhaps the 1.4 update allows independent views on each display? Then we'd really have something new and very useful, right?

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi John,
connect a midi cable between the 2 ports of the midi in and midi out of your keyboard, choose the channel or the channels (from the midi settings menu) that they have the notes that can help the genos to read the chords (usually a channel witn strings or a guitar playing chords),
use the Song Creator to re-record the song.
(In fact you just have to let the midi play all the way through with the rec mode on and let the Genos figure out what chords the notes are formatting)

Then the "new" midi will display the chords along with the sheet music on your screen.

Hi Panos
I cannot be bothered with that little display and bouncy ball.
Ii is much better for me to open my HP slate up and stick all the music sheets in there and turn the pages with Air-Turn.
Thanks for that tip though Panos.
Just done a couple of songs and now having a go with Sonarworks. My mixes are getting better gradually and tomorrow is using a reference track on my monitors to get the levels equal.
If you get the Speaker and mic Sonarworks,you have to go through a mindbending experience with all the  32 mic positions and that whooping noise. Dun arf make your arms ache!!
I just hope it is worth the money. Well, having a go tomorrow Probablly get myself all mixed up!!

All the best
John

[Snicker740]

Only a few hours left. I don't know what time zone Yamaha will take to start June 28