Fiesta Caliente Expansion pack is very disappointing

[rodrigo.b]

I'm really very disappointed with the "Fiesta Caliente" expansion pack and the salsa pack. I know I'm still learning music and music production but believe me, as a latin american musician I can tell you that it doesn't sound authentic or realistic. If you don't want to trust me, just listen to a Merengue song from artists like Eddy Herrera, a Salsa song from artists like Joe Arroyo, Celia Cruz, and Marc Anthony, listen also to a Vallenato from artists like Carlos Vives, a romantic Bachata from artists like Aventura or Prince Royce, a Peruvian waltz from artists like Los Morochucos, and you listen carefully ,you will immediately notice that the instruments they use, and the way the Latin musicians play their instruments produce a very different sound than the sounds that you get from the voices of the Yamaha 's expansion packs or factory keyboard voices. I don't understand why they are not recording for example a real latin brass and then use the samples to create a MegaVoice Latin Brass with all the articulations used on Latin music. Not only they don't record these kind of Latin sounds but also they don't allow us to record for example a latin trumpet or sax and create a Super Articulation Voice. This is really sad. Why Yamaha? Why? 

[Al Ram]

I tend to agree . . .

On the other hand is free . . . . so . . .  not much to complain about . . .

thanks

[DrakeM]

The same can be said for all of the Onboard styles. That's why you have to learn to make your own song styles.

[valimaties]

Don't be very sad, Rodrigo. Never will happening... Because this is what they do, they change the natural sound recorded with studio processed samples, because they say is better this way. Same thing happened with South East Europe pack. The cymbalum recorded in Romania's studio was modified in Yamaha's Japan studio, by their ears and the general sound of Yamaha, and practically they changed natural sound of it with a synthetic cymbalum sound. That has never happened, for example, on Korg's packs, which they didn't altered any of the samples gived by Daniel Andronescu, the man behind Korg's romanian packs sold by Korg.

So, I don't think will happening ever, if Yamaha's engineers will not realize that recorded sound is the REAL sound and it HAS to be like it was recorded.

Regards,
Vali

[pfeuh]

Hello,

I'm really very disappointed with the "Fiesta Caliente" expansion pack and the salsa pack. I know I'm still learning music and music production but believe me, as a latin american musician I can tell you that it doesn't sound authentic or realistic.

I have exactly the same point of view. I've thinked immediatly that as an Occidental I wasn't able to feel this kind of grooves... But what you say sounds more  logical.

Regards,

Pfeuh

[rodrigo.b]

The same can be said for all of the Onboard styles. That's why you have to learn to make your own song styles.

Well, In my case I like the Latin styles on Yamaha Keyboards but I'm not very happy with the sounds. For example on PSR S970 Salsa Gran Ciclón Style they combine a Nylon Guitar with Steel guitar to simulate the sound of a Tres cubano Guitar instead of sampling a real tres cubano guitar. The Megavoice Brass sound is very suitable for Jazz, Pop, and maybe Funk but I doesn't work very well on Latin music, when I listen to it on latin music it sounds more like a jazz brass ensemble trying to do Latin music.

I now I can't create new sounds with YEM but it is very basic and you can't create Super Articulation voices or Megavoices.

[Al Ram]

well . . . that is why they are giving it away for free . . .

If it was so good it would not be free !!

I did not even bother to download . . .

thanks

[rodrigo.b]

well . . . that is why they are giving it away for free . . .

If it was so good it would not be free !!

I did not even bother to download . . .

thanks

Yes, but in the future it will be cost like the salsa pack that was free and now it cost.

[panos]

I agree with Vali about all ethnic packs.
To me they sound like there is a classical or a jazz or a rock band trying to play ethnic music.
That bad...really really bad...

[rodrigo.b]

I can't believe that also they release a salsa pack without brass ensamble, without latin pianos, without baby bass, only a new latin percussion set. For me is like having a classic hamburger but only the hamburger, no tomatoes, no bread,etc.


So you pay $129.99 (Genos Version) for 20 styles and one set of poorly recorded Latin percussion instruments with only a few layers per instruments and no wavecycling splitted on 3 sound or "voices" in Yamaha language. These percussion voices doesn't match with any standard (General midi, XG, etc), and also you can't not take for example a factory salsa style and remplace the Live! Pop Latin Kit on the percussion track with the new voices from the pack, because they are mapped on a different way.