don't understand what I don't understand!

[ekurburski]

OK I have everything just the way I want it and it works perfectly and I have saved the reg.  I then select a new ots and everything works perfectly EXCEPT the balance of the voices jumps to completely different settings and the right hand voice is blasting away louder than everything else.  Go back to original setting and the balance totally off.  What haven't i done?

[Bill]

What haven't i done?

I would think you have not totally grasped the concept of using Registrations.

Most people who use registrations do NOT use the OTS Buttons at the same time.  Save yourself a lot of grief and just stick to the registrations once you have them setup.

Bill

[Al Ram]

  I then select a new ots

The idea of registrations is to save everything in the registration, including tempo, key, voices, etc.   The registration saves the status of the keyboard at the time the registration is saved.   When i finish my registration and i save it then it means that i do not need any changes.  That is why i saved it that way because that is what i will play.  No changes.    So, i do not understand why after saving the registration you select a new OTS.    Save the registration the way you want it and then that's it no need to select anything else when playing.

Thanks

[ekurburski]

I don't wish to play the sing all the way through with only one voice.  For verity's sake I want to play different voices in the right hand on different chorus's.  Background still stays basically the same with small increases in complexity as we go though the A,B,C,D parts but each part has different  RH voices and at different volume levels.  I want to sound like a studio production, not like some high school kid playing on a toy kb.



I'm thinking the only way to do what I want is to recreate and save the style with new OTS properly set.  I have been looking at stylemagic demo and it appears to be able to handle what I'm trying to do.

[Fred Smith]

I don't wish to play the sing all the way through with only one voice.  For verity's sake I want to play different voices in the right hand on different chorus's.  Background still stays basically the same with small increases in complexity as we go though the A,B,C,D parts but each part has different  RH voices and at different volume levels.  I want to sound like a studio production, not like some high school kid playing on a toy kb.

That's why you have 8 registrations available — much better than four lousy OTS settings. You can be twice the production with registrations than with OTS.

Regardless, the advice to stick with one or the other is best. It's too confusing trying to do both, as you've found out.

Cheers,
Fred

[Al Ram]

I don't wish to play the sing all the way through with only one voice.  For verity's sake I want to play different voices in the right hand on different chorus's. 

Depending on your keyboard you can save up to 8 or 10 registrations.  That means you can save up to 8 or even 10 different RH voices.   Personally, i never need to use OTS.   I save my registrations, i can save different RH voices for the same song if needed.   I do rehearse with my registrations and when playing live you can sound very professional.

thanks

[Fred Smith]

Depending on your keyboard you can save up to 8 or 10 registrations.  That means you can save up to 8 or even 10 different RH voices.   Personally, i never need to use OTS.   I save my registrations, i can save different RH voices for the same song if needed.   I do rehearse with my registrations and when playing live you can sound very professional.

I'm with you, Al.

When I'm creating a registration for a song, I will take the style's OTS settings, and store them in regs 2 to 5 (leaving R1 for the intro).  After that, I never touch the OTS. I simply start modifying each reg to my liking. No high school toy keyboard for me!

Cheers,
Fred

[ekurburski]

ok guys, I didn't mean to be snarky.  Just fighting what I want the kb to do!

[alanclare]

"Fighting"? Would that be "finding"? Or, perhaps you really do mean "fighting".

Alan

[alanclare]

When I'm creating a registration for a song, I will take the style's OTS settings, and store them in regs 2 to 5 (leaving R1 for the intro).  After that, I never touch the OTS. I simply start modifying each reg to my liking. No high school toy keyboard for me!

Cheers,
Fred

That is brilliant Fred. So simple and logical. I never thought of doing that. Then, when you're finally set up to play you can control the changes with a pedal. Love it. Thank you.

Alan

[panos]

Try to remember a simple thing.
When you hit one of the registration buttons you are inside the Registration area.
When you hit one of the Main buttons you are inside the Style area and you are leaving the registration area.
When you hit one of the OTS buttons you are inside the Voice(of the style) area and you are leaving the registration area once again.

So renember that when you hit a button that is not a Registration button you have to forget about your registration.

Registrations actually don't save just 8-10 mains(with fill ins if you wish)/intros/endings and voices that is more than a simple style's mains but can contain up to 8-10 different styles with their own Mains and OTS with the hit of one registration button each time.

Very useful if you want to make a medley or a kind of a much complicated arrangement.
Of course you have to make the styles first  that way that they can some how "fit" to each other so they don't sound strange when you play from one style and then you change to another style(e.g. same tempo,same drumset etc).

[ekurburski]

yeah Alan I meant fighting.  I want the kb to do what I want not what t wants.  I'll keep hitting my head against the brick wall 'until I finally give up & learn to do what I want the way the kb wants.

[travlin-easy]

Earl, unfortunately, I will not be headed south any time soon, or maybe never again because of health issues or I would sit down with you and provide you with some first hand instructions on registrations.

I believe that when you created those errant registrations you didn't look at everything that was checked off in the registration information box, and also didn't check your voice setting levels. Registrations are a very effective tool, but they will ONLY DO WHAT YOU TELL THEM TO DO! Nothing more - nothing less.

Over the years I have provided first hand instructions to dozens of individuals in my area and down in south Florida. In nearly every instance, those that were having problems were not taking their time and looking at what was being saved when they created the errant registrations they had problems with. Some folks managed to figure things out within a few hours, while others just never got the hang of it.

Why don't you post those registrations here on the forum so we can decipher where the problems are and provide you with a fix.

Good luck,

Gary

[alanclare]

Can microphone settings be saved in a registration? It's such a complicated business using hit and miss attempts to try and find something that works and then having to somehow find the same setup after the instrument has been switched off.

Alan

[travlin-easy]

Yes, just place a check mark in the mic box.

Gary