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adding multipad to style

Started by mazydazydinah, September 02, 2018, 08:49:58 AM

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mazydazydinah

Hi there,  Can you add a multipad to a style, then save it as a new style. so that when you play it the multipad plays as well as the style  automatically.

Marion

tyrosaurus

Hi Marion,

You can add a Multi Pad bank to the OTS of a style so that it loads when you select the style, but using this method you can't set it to select one or more pads from the bank and automatically start playing.

However you can use registrations to do this.  You can memorise a style and Multi Pad bank in a registration and even get it to select one or more pads from the bank to 'sync start' with the style.


Regards

Ian

mazydazydinah

Thanks for your reply Ian,  I don't have a lot of success with registrations.  I have spent hours perfecting a song, saved it as a registration. Played it back, all seem fine.  Move on to the next song and do the same, only to find that I have lost the first song because it is now playing the second song. Never have been able to figure out what I do wrong to make it do this.
Marion

Joe H

Marion,

All my custom styles have a Multi Pad saved in each of the 4 OTS.  So try Ian's suggestion... select a Multi Pad for each OTS and save the OTS when you are done.  If it is a custom Multi Pad on your User drive or USB drive be sure to NOT move it after you have save the style's OTS. Otherwise the style will not be able to find it.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Al Ram

Marion

In my opinion, registrations are the way to go . . . .

I have hundreds of songs using styles with many multipads.  The registration controls when and where the multipads play, stop, re-start, multipad volume up/down, more than one multipad per song, etc.

There are many other benefits to using registrations.  It is probably a good investment to spent some time learning how to use registrations, it will pay back.

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana

Fred Smith

Quote from: mazydazydinah on September 02, 2018, 11:30:47 AM
Thanks for your reply Ian,  I don't have a lot of success with registrations.  I have spent hours perfecting a song, saved it as a registration. Played it back, all seem fine.  Move on to the next song and do the same, only to find that I have lost the first song because it is now playing the second song. Never have been able to figure out what I do wrong to make it do this.
Marion

Your problem is likely incorrect settings in Memory Contents (the screen that comes up when you oress the memory button).

It's worth your time to spend 5 minutes to understand its features, because it's almost always the source, and solution, to registration problems.

Press the Memory button, and study the screen. If a box is checked, then that group's settings will be saved in the registration. If it's not checked, they won't.

The problem you describe is perfectly explained by the Song box not being checked in this screen. As the box was unchecked, Song settings were not saved in the registration. Of course, when you played it back initially, it worked, because the song was still loaded. But when you load a second song, it will stay there because you told the registration not to change it.

The simple solution is when you have a problem with a registration, immediately stop and patiently re-memorize it with the settings you want. Then it will work properly forever.

Hope this helps,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons

alanclare

Fred

I've just spent 5 minutes understanding the features of the Memory button, and you're absolutely right - it was worth my time.

Like most of us I have a startup registration that gets loaded as soon as the machine has warmed up. It sets the Harmony/Arpeggio to Standard Duet, a pedal is allocated to switch Harmony/Arpeggio on and off, and a second pedal is told to Fill Self. The Registration Memory Contents have all the groups selected except Harmony/Arpeggio, Pedal, and Mic/Vocal Harmony. I now understand why I've had so much trouble in getting an arrangement to get memorised when these features are changed. They simply don't get saved.

And I've just set different Multi-pads to start when I've saved the necessary settings in separate registrations. It's all so logical when you think about what you're doing.

It's the old story. I get slapdash when something seems to work, but I haven't really understood it. My thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread,

Alan

mazydazydinah

Hi everyone, thanks for all your replies.  Have checked the memory button Fred and every box is ticked.  I very rarely use the internal styles of the Tyros 5, most of them I am not so keen on for my style of playing,so I suppose I complicate things using other styles.  Perhaps it happens somewhere between saving the registration and putting the song into a folder named with the music book name .   
What is the best way to store the saved registrations.
Marion

Fred Smith

Quote from: mazydazydinah on September 03, 2018, 07:43:46 AM
I very rarely use the internal styles of the Tyros 5, most of them I am not so keen on for my style of playing,so I suppose I complicate things using other styles.  Perhaps it happens somewhere between saving the registration and putting the song into a folder named with the music book name .   
What is the best way to store the saved registrations.
Marion

I mostly use user styles as well, so that's not the problem. But you have identified your problem.

You say you move the file after you've memorized the registration. If you move it, how do you expect the registration to find it? Of course it won't work if you move the file.

And, as I stated, the solution is simple. After you move the file, just re-memorize the registration.

Hope this helps,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons

mazydazydinah

thanks Fred,  I will make sure I do that and see if that cures the problem of loosing them.

Marion

TiasDad

If it's any consolation Marion, I can't get to grips with registrations either. I tend to use the favourites section of the Music Finder. I really should knuckle down with the manual or Fred's videos on you tube ;)

mazydazydinah

Thanks TiasDad,  it's really nice to know I am not the only one having problems with what seems easy to others.

I am now putting the style and multipad on a stick in folders, then making the registration and storing it there as well, I am trying to sort out a way of putting them all together in one place like the usb stick, so I don't move them around and loose them.

Marion

Al Ram

Marion

If this helps .  .. . .  I have my stuff in a USB drive. 

At the root of the USB drive a have one folder each for EXTERNAL:

STYLES
MULTIPADS
VOICES
MIDIS

BEFORE saving my registrations, i make sure the intended style or multipad is located in the corresponding folder (USB).  Then I save the registration making sure it points to the intended folder.   AFTER the registration is saved pointing to the corresponding folders, NOTHING MOVES.  Otherwise, the registration will not find the items.   Of course, you need to make sure the USB stick is IN the keyboard when you turn it on.

For styles and multipads that came with the keyboard you do not need to copy to the USB folders, the keyboard already knows the location.

Hope this helps. 

AL
San Diego/Tijuana