Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos

[AudioProCT]

Email me for information, first come first serve

[whataguy]

What's a "B" Stock Genos?

[AudioProCT]

"B" stock, from Yamaha can mean, the box was opened, the keyboard was played, then re-boxed, or the keyboard was used for a Yamaha training.

All YAMAHA "B" stock carry Yamaha's full warranty.

Usually carrying a discounted price

[Gunnar Jonny]

"B" stock, from Yamaha can mean, the box was opened, the keyboard was played, then re-boxed, or the keyboard was used for a Yamaha training........

I assume returned items from customers is labeled 'B stock' as well?

[AudioProCT]

Yamaha does not accept customer returns, those are only through dealers and must be called used

[AlBags]

So, this statement by Yamaha (under B Stock) is incorrect then?

https://usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/audio_visual/2534.html

Al.

[AudioProCT]

I'll check on the half warranty part, ( never had an issue with warranty with Yamaha )  but everything else is correct.   Not used by a customer, unless the customer received one that had a problem, was sent back fixed and then sent out as a B stock

Used as a customer had it for months and then sent it back?    No, it would have to be with in 30 days

[andyg]

I think the laws regarding what you can or cannot call good is different in the EU than it is in the UK.

'Manufacturer refurbished' is a term often used, but in some cases I suspect 'refurbishment' may mean little more than an inspection, clean if required, reset and repackaging. 'B Grade is sometimes used, though I doubt the full legality, as once something has been sold it can never then be described as 'new', regardless of 'stock' or 'grade'.

I've bought a 'manufacturer refurbished' laptop, lawn mower and a pressure washer that way. Apart from one slight scratch on the laptop, all were 'like new', came with original packaging etc. The laptop had a 120 day warranty, the other items 6 months. Never a problem and saved a bundle, especially with the laptop which was less than half the price of a new one.

In the UK, there is no 30 day limit for return of faulty goods, in fact there's no time limit at all, though it's normally taken to be a year. In the first six months any faults are deemed to have been pre-existing when first bought. So these returns will eventually end up back with the manufacturer for refurbishment and eventual reselling.

When resold, I guess you might call them 'B stock' or 'C stock' in the USA.