Weird characters in Style names etc.

[Joe H]

Looking at all the photos posted so far, I see a pattern of mostly the letter 'E' that displays wrong... except for one example. So maybe it can be duplicated by someone.

Joe H

[wdhorner]

I used to regularly get similar garbled characters in my style names. For a while I couldn't figure out what was going on. In my set up I use an iPad with Songbook+ connected to the Genos through a BT01 midi connection. I noticed that when I turned the genos on after a few seconds the BT01 would be recognized by the iPad as available to manually connect from Songbook (which being impatient I would do to save time) even before Genos finished its start up initialization. However, if I do manually connect Songbook before the Genos finished its startup, my style names would display (more often than not) with garbled characters. By waiting for Genos to completely finish its startup, before manually connecting to Songbook, I have not seen this problem again. If you have anything that is capable of interacting with the Genos while it is in the middle of initializing, try disabling (or not enabling) that device until Genos is fully up and running. See if that helps, it cured it for me.

[jwyvern]

After turning on today I have for the first time seen the odd characters mentioned by Jim on "my" Genos. Random alpha text characters on the Home, Voice and editing/mixing screens were replaced. But file lists in the standard folders, eg. Styles and Voices were not affected. I tried resetting by loading a customised System file I made for troublesome occasions but the characters were still there afterwards. After powering off and then on everything was back to  normal.

Over the last few weeks I have been working on registrations which set up extra voices (beyond the panel voices) for live playing via the song channels, similar to how v-console works. So I am wondering whether I have something in common with Jim here where using song channels for live playing somehow increases the liklihood of encountering these very occasional glitches??

John   

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[Al Ram]

Sometimes after a time, I see "weird" odd characters in names of things on the screen.  When I reboot, these go away and all looks "normal" again for a while ...

Jim

Exact same thing happened to me and my Genos a couple of days ago.  Turned it off and then back on and the problem went away.

thanks

[AlBags]

I had this problem too. Nearly posted screenshot as example, but left it, thinking it may be a temporary glitch.
I accidentally updated to latest firmware with the USB1 (in cover) still plugged.
After this, some of my saved registration instrument names were populated with these weird characters.

After I used a few times, or resaved/replugged the problem went away.

Al.

[jimlaing]

If you saved files, and have files that have the problem, it would great to report them to Yamaha.  As I have a "support ticket" already open, I'd be glad to send them to the tech that is handling my "case" on this ... send to me if you'd like . . .  jimlaing@icloud.com

I could also try them on my Genos to see if they bring the problem back ...

Jim

[AlBags]

Strangely, never seen problem since on these same registrations, on the same stick.
Maybe a RE-read or RE-plug and reboot fixes it. Can't be certain.

Al 👍😊

[jimlaing]

Hi - I had not seen this for a while, but saw it again last night.  I was just editing existing registrations and playing.  A while later, I noticed that the letters B were odd looking.

That is, "Ballad" looked like #alla#  (except it was not # but some really weird looking collection of pixels that replaced only the letter B's in style names.

A "reboot" fixed it (for now) .  .  .

Jim

[Bachus]

Hi - I had not seen this for a while, but saw it again last night.  I was just editing existing registrations and playing.  A while later, I noticed that the letters B were odd looking.

That is, "Ballad" looked like #alla#  (except it was not # but some really weird looking collection of pixels that replaced only the letter B's in style names.

A "reboot" fixed it (for now) .  .  .

Jim

Saw this once, some time ago, after converting the tyros5 music finder to a playlist and registrations..

Inrebooted and never saw it again..
Itought it was just a software glitch..
Nothing to worry about..

[Kokoriz]

Happened to my Genos long time ago but hasn't happened yet again so I don't know what's wrong with it! See photo attached.

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[valimaties]

Genos uses font bitmaps, not regular font file to show charaters on display. This means it "link" font characters with font bitmaps and will display them. According to name length, it will switch between font bitmaps size for entire name as file name to be shown on display.
Seems sometimes Genos loose its link between font characters and font bitmaps or its graphical functions does not decode correctly the font bitmap file. If after a keyboard restart the problem persists try renaming file with good characters, save it, restart your keyboard and reload the file. If problem persists again, its an OS bug.

Regards,
Vali

[jimlaing]

FYI, for me, this most often happens on "built-in" or "preset" things, not items that I have created/saved/named.  For example, if it's a Style name that is garbled, it's most often a built-in style.  If it's a voice name that is garbled, it's a built-in voice, not one I created. 

Interesting about the bit-map and how Genos display characters etc. . . .

Jim

[valimaties]

...
Interesting about the bit-map and how Genos display characters etc. . . .

Jim

Hi Jim.

Using of bitmap fonts in Genos is written in Owner's Manual, page 7 in "About functions/data bundled with the instrument" paragraph...
They used Ricoh Co., Ltd. bitmap fonts and those fonts are property of Ricoh Co., Ltd, not Yamaha's.

I don't know exactly how they use bitmap fonts, but I know is faster than true type fonts, but in the same time most of advanced programmers said that is a pain to use them when you want to map some different sizes for texts or to make some text animation. Here is an explanation for this two types of fonts

Regards,
Vali

[Bachus]

Genos uses font bitmaps, not regular font file to show charaters on display. This means it "link" font characters with font bitmaps and will display them. According to name length, it will switch between font bitmaps size for entire name as file name to be shown on display.
Seems sometimes Genos loose its link between font characters and font bitmaps or its graphical functions does not decode correctly the font bitmap file. If after a keyboard restart the problem persists try renaming file with good characters, save it, restart your keyboard and reload the file. If problem persists again, its an OS bug.

Regards,
Vali

That explains what we have seen perfectly well