I recently had a Montage M 76 which also uses the FSK keybed and somehow this Genos2 version seems different...not as smooth and a bit lighter and "thumpier" at the bottom of the key travel and on release.

IE, it does not seem the same quality. Even though Yamaha would say it is the same.

Anyone else have this experience?

Comparison Between Yamaha Montage M7 and Genos 2 Keyboards

1. Key Type
• Montage M7:
• FSX Semi-weighted Action (high-quality semi-weighted keys).
• Provides a smooth, responsive feel, suitable for both synth and piano-style playing.
• Designed for professionals who require precision and durability in live or studio performances.
• Genos 2:
• FSX Keybed, similar to Montage M7, but slightly optimized for arranger-style performances.
• Excellent for playing various styles, from synth to piano, organ, and orchestral sounds.
• Offers a balanced and expressive feel for complex arrangements and live performances.

2. Build Quality
• Montage M7:
• High-grade materials ensure durability and consistent performance over time.
• Aimed at users requiring a robust keyboard for demanding studio and stage use.
• Genos 2:
• Also uses high-quality materials, but optimized for comfort during long arranger performances.
• Prioritizes versatility for players who switch between different musical styles frequently.

3. Target Users
• Montage M7:
• Geared towards professional musicians, producers, and performers focusing on sound design and live shows.
• Ideal for creating complex soundscapes with its advanced synthesis capabilities.
• Genos 2:
• Targeted at live performers, arrangers, and enthusiasts of multi-genre music.
• Best suited for those needing extensive styles, rhythms, and song arrangements.

4. Versatility and Features
• Montage M7:
• Focuses on sound creation, with extensive control options via Super Knob and Motion Control.
• Lacks arranger features, but excels in DAW integration and performance synthesis.
• Genos 2:
• Includes arranger features like automatic accompaniment, chord detection, and extensive style libraries.
• Prioritizes live performance and creating fully arranged songs quickly.

Conclusion
• Montage M7: Best for musicians focusing on advanced sound design, synthesis, and live performance with hands-on control.
• Genos 2: Ideal for live performers and arrangers who need versatile styles, rhythms, and arranger features for multi-genre music.

Quote from: Snicker740 on Dec 31, 2024, 04:10 AMComparison Between Yamaha Montage M7 and Genos 2 Keyboards

1. Key Type
• Montage M7:
• FSX Semi-weighted Action (high-quality semi-weighted keys).
• Provides a smooth, responsive feel, suitable for both synth and piano-style playing.
• Designed for professionals who require precision and durability in live or studio performances.
• Genos 2:
• FSX Keybed, similar to Montage M7, but slightly optimized for arranger-style performances.
• Excellent for playing various styles, from synth to piano, organ, and orchestral sounds.
• Offers a balanced and expressive feel for complex arrangements and live performances.

2. Build Quality
• Montage M7:
• High-grade materials ensure durability and consistent performance over time.
• Aimed at users requiring a robust keyboard for demanding studio and stage use.
• Genos 2:
• Also uses high-quality materials, but optimized for comfort during long arranger performances.
• Prioritizes versatility for players who switch between different musical styles frequently.

3. Target Users
• Montage M7:
• Geared towards professional musicians, producers, and performers focusing on sound design and live shows.
• Ideal for creating complex soundscapes with its advanced synthesis capabilities.
• Genos 2:
• Targeted at live performers, arrangers, and enthusiasts of multi-genre music.
• Best suited for those needing extensive styles, rhythms, and song arrangements.

4. Versatility and Features
• Montage M7:
• Focuses on sound creation, with extensive control options via Super Knob and Motion Control.
• Lacks arranger features, but excels in DAW integration and performance synthesis.
• Genos 2:
• Includes arranger features like automatic accompaniment, chord detection, and extensive style libraries.
• Prioritizes live performance and creating fully arranged songs quickly.

Conclusion
• Montage M7: Best for musicians focusing on advanced sound design, synthesis, and live performance with hands-on control.
• Genos 2: Ideal for live performers and arrangers who need versatile styles, rhythms, and arranger features for multi-genre music.

Bingo! Thanks. So it IS different....thought so. Nowhere near the same quality and on a +$7k instrument too...might go back to a PA5x

Quote from: pax-eterna on Dec 31, 2024, 12:02 PMBingo! Thanks. So it IS different....thought so. Nowhere near the same quality and on a +$7k instrument too...might go back to a PA5x

Dear,
Keep in mind!! Pa5x wins in terms of build quality, hardware and materials as well as the very good and quite silent keyboard (Fatar). Also the fantastic "Seamless Transition" and the editability of the sounds is top!! As far as sound goes, they are quite similar, but when it comes to fidelity and quality of the sounds and styles, Genos is the winner!!
They both still need an extensive update!!
I have them both.

Happy New Year To All!!!

Quote from: Snicker740 on Dec 31, 2024, 04:10 AM1. Key Type
Montage M7:
• FSX Semi-weighted Action (high-quality semi-weighted keys).
• Provides a smooth, responsive feel, suitable for both synth and piano-style playing.
• Designed for professionals who require precision and durability in live or studio performances.
Genos 2:
• FSX Keybed, similar to Montage M7, but slightly optimized for arranger-style performances.
• Excellent for playing various styles, from synth to piano, organ, and orchestral sounds.
• Offers a balanced and expressive feel for complex arrangements and live performances.

Did these descriptions of the subtle differences between the FSX keybed on Montage vs. Genos come from Yamaha? It was my understanding that the FSX keybed was the same on both. The original poster here has definitely noticed a difference because he tried both keyboards, but I am wondering if that is because of manufacturing inconsistencies and quality control rather than Yamaha actually making them "optimized" for each instrument on purpose.