Organ rotary off?

[Pianotone]

Hey all!  Took delivery of my PSR-SX720 today (love it!).  Dove right into the organ flutes, which I THINK ... are the same or taken from the CK/Reface YC AWM?  Either way, a couple of questions if anyone knows:

1) For the flute based voices, can you turn the rotary off or are you forced to use either slow or fast?
2) Is there a way to assign the sustain pedal footswitch to control rotary speed and NOT have that be a global setting?  I know I can probably save it in a registration, and then have a "default settings/startup" registration to return that pedal to sustain, just wondering if I'm missing an easier/better way.  I do have the articulation 2 button set to control rotary, but a pedal would be much nicer.

Also, it seems those 3 drawbars on the right amd the dial appear to control percussion harmonics, slow/fast etc (I've never seen that before; anyone know why Yamaha didn't make this look normal with percussion switches?

Thanks all, loving this machine so far!

[KurtAgain]

1) For the flute based voices, can you turn the rotary off or are you forced to use either slow or fast?

Yes, the rotary effect can be completely turned off.

When you're in the drawbars screen, there's a button [Effect] at the top right. This button leads to a screen with an On/Off switch for the insertion effect, which creates the rotary sound. (By the way: You can also change the effect type or the parameters of the effect here by clicking on the effect name or the gear next to the effect name.)

If you want to you can assign this On/Off switch to an assignable switch:

• Category: Overall
• Function: Insertion Effect On/Off

Kurt

[KurtAgain]

2) Is there a way to assign the sustain pedal footswitch to control rotary speed and NOT have that be a global setting?

The question then would be, how else should it be? Should the foot pedal assignment change automatically depending on the voice category? There would probably be many users who wouldn't want that.

In my opinion, the Yamaha SX and Genos keyboards are very much designed for the use of registrations. While you're not forced to use registrations, everything works very well and logically when you use them, especially when using the "one registration bank per song" system.

Kurt

[KurtAgain]

Also, it seems those 3 drawbars on the right amd the dial appear to control percussion harmonics, slow/fast etc (I've never seen that before; anyone know why Yamaha didn't make this look normal with percussion switches?

Because they can?

Because they're Yamaha?

I'm just kidding.

Kurt

[Pianotone]

1) For the flute based voices, can you turn the rotary off or are you forced to use either slow or fast?

Yes, the rotary effect can be completely turned off.

When you're in the drawbars screen, there's a button [Effect] at the top right. This button leads to a screen with an On/Off switch for the insertion effect, which creates the rotary sound. (By the way: You can also change the effect type or the parameters of the effect here by clicking on the effect name or the gear next to the effect name.)

If you want to you can assign this On/Off switch to an assignable switch:

• Category: Overall
• Function: Insertion Effect On/Off

Kurt

Thanks for that!  That does work fine thank you - it's a shame the transition isn't smooth when you turn off the insertion effect, but I'm assuming it's switching between a sample with and a sample without.  Not the end of the world by any stretch, it's cool that drawbars can be modified on the fly and smoothly adjust rotary speed.  When I was looking into the organ functionality on this (not a lot of specific info online that I could find actually) and I saw the drawbars on the flute voices, I was hoping it would be Reface YC functionality (like the CK series) but I'm thinking it's more of a "Reface Lite".  Still far better than 100%  "baked in" samples like on the PSR-E series though so I'll make it work.

Thanks for your help!  I might be looking into a small external drawbar MIDI controller soon as well (once I have time to start digging into the MIDI in end)

[KurtAgain]

...the transition isn't smooth when you turn off the insertion effect, but I'm assuming it's switching between a sample with and a sample without...

The Organ Flutes' rotary effect is created with a DSP, not with different samples.

As I described above, you can change the effect parameters of this DSP. For example, you could set the low speed to zero by setting "Woofer Speed Slow" and "Horn Speed Slow" both to 0.0rpm. Now, when you switch between fast and slow, the transition is smooth, not abrupt.

Kurt

[KurtAgain]

I might be looking into a small external drawbar MIDI controller soon as well (once I have time to start digging into the MIDI in end)

I'm afraid it won't be that easy. Before you buy a drawbar controller, you should read what our member pjd wrote about it on his blog:

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Kurt

[Pianotone]

...the transition isn't smooth when you turn off the insertion effect, but I'm assuming it's switching between a sample with and a sample without...

The Organ Flutes' rotary effect is created with a DSP, not with different samples.

As I described above, you can change the effect parameters of this DSP. For example, you could set the low speed to zero by setting "Woofer Speed Slow" and "Horn Speed Slow" both to 0.0rpm. Now, when you switch between fast and slow, the transition is smooth, not abrupt.

Kurt

That's an interesting partial solution, thanks!   I could at least have rotary stopped & slow or rotary stopped & fast as smooth options

[Pianotone]

I might be looking into a small external drawbar MIDI controller soon as well (once I have time to start digging into the MIDI in end)

I'm afraid it won't be that easy. Before you buy a drawbar controller, you should read what our member pjd wrote about it on his blog:

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Kurt

Omg YIKES that's nasty!  Oh well, on screen drawbars it is    Thanks for letting me know!