Chord looper 1/2 bar at end of loop

Started by chadsolo, May 24, 2025, 07:57 PM

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chadsolo


I am using chord looper to lay down backing for a verse of a song that has a half bar prior to the Chorus.
i am using registrations to save the loops and switch between Verse Chorus etc
When I recorded the verse loop I could not get it to stop at the half bar as it seeming defaults to the whole bar.
I have tried to overcome this by trying to time registration switches to no avail.

Amy suggestions would be welcome thanks.
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mikf

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It's really not a mortal sin to just stretch the arrangement to a whole bar. Musicians do this all the time. Pretty much no-one notices.
I might be wrong in your case, but most arranger players are not world class instrumentalists or vocalists —- why worry about every getting every little  nuance of the backing arrangement perfect?
Mike
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Amwilburn

Very true

But also you could make a half bar version of said style, (changing the time sig from 4/4 to 2/4, doubling the number of bars, and pasting all the parts back in) and then your half bar will be exactly that.

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mikf

Mark
You are right, there are so many different ways to skin the cat on an arranger.
But is it always worth the effort? I've been on this forum for over 20 years, and so often see posts where people who are hardly even intermediate level players get obsessive about exactly copying Hank Marvin's guitar sound when they don't have Hank Marvin's timing, the quality of the piano voice when they play RH melodies with one finger, or whether a style correctly shows time signature 4/4 or 12/8, when it matters little.
They forget that it's music and what people hear is ' do they like the song' , and 'does it sound good'.  This is maybe the biggest downside of the very technical and versatile arranger, people often treat it like electronic machine instead of a musical instrument.
Mike
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Dupe

@ Mike, Well said, that's a good answer.👍
Left handed player...paralysed right hand, wrist and fingers.
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chadsolo

I was doing a loop for Cat Stevens Wild World verse and chorus separate which would have seemed a bit odd without the 2/4 bars..Hence the query. I used the Mark's suggestion and it worked great thanks.Cheers
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mikf

We can all do things any way we choose, so if the style change worked for you that's great. Although I watched/listened to a utube of Cat Steven's playing this great song live and he never deviated from 4/4 timing. He just starts the vocal for the chorus on the 3rd /4th beats of a 4/4 bar which is quite common. There was no 2/4 bar.
Mike
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mikf

Actually I take that back, I listened to a different Cat Stevens version and I do then hear a 2/4 bar. But it wasn't where I was listening before, between verse and chorus. It was at the end of the verse. There's a little 2/4 bar with a lyric like a tag. Then he starts a guitar break for 2 beats of the next 4/4 bar and starts the chorus lyric on the last 2 beats of that bar. The version I listened to before was a solo acoustic performance, and it seemed to me in that he fitted it all into continuous 4/4. But I could be wrong.
Mike
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