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Started by Keyboard440, Apr 09, 2025, 11:49 AM

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Registration memory not keeping style or change to a new style that's put into a different bank. When keyboard restarted either lose styles in banks or distorts. Any ideas?
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SciNote

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I don't have much direct experience with the PSR-E473, but I can advise what happens with my older PSR-E433.  Just keep in mind that I don't know how much of this applies to the E473, as Yamaha did change the workflow quite a bit when they introduced the E473.

With my E433, a registration will only save a style if the style mode is engaged during the time you save the registration.  If you have the keyboard in Song mode or DJ-Groove mode, instead of Style mode, then when you save a registration, a style does NOT get saved.  This means that when you call up such a registration (meaning, a registration saved in Song or DJ mode), it will NOT change the style that is currently playing.

I actually do this on purpose, as I mainly use the registrations to save sound set-ups for the keyboard, and I want to be able to change the sounds that I'm using while playing a song without changing the style and tempo in the middle of a song.

So, if your E473 has these different modes (Style, Song, DJ-Groove), make sure that the keyboard is in Style mode when saving a registration, and then it should store the currently selected style, along with its parameters (like tempo) to the registration.

Now, as to why the keyboard would be distorted when restarting it, that I don't know.  When you say "restarting it", what do you mean?  Just simply turning it off and then back on?  Or do you mean doing a reset procedure?  Because if it is just turning it off and on, then yeah, I don't think it should be dumping the stored styles out of your registrations (assuming that you did properly store the styles to the registrations in the first place) -- and this, along with the distortion you mention, would make me consider the possibility of a defective keyboard.  But if you do the reset procedure, then I would think it would clear all the data out of the registrations -- both style and sound data.  I'm still not sure about the distortion, however.  The only other thing I can think of at this time is that, if you're running the keyboard on batteries, maybe the batteries are getting weak.
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433 (x2), Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
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Download styles from computer to style 291-300 on keyboard. I set up voice tempo etc. Than save to a registration. I play it to hear what I have, if good go to next number in bank. If I fill two or three banks when I go bank to a previous bank it has changed to a different song. Going crazy. Thanks for your responds if you can think of anything else let me know. Its still under warranty but can't find a repair shop in Mesa AZ area. Yamaha send me two names one is closed, the other very poor reviews. Thanks again.



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SciNote

Okay, this is good information.  As I have no experience loading styles into my keyboard, I checked the manual to the PSR-E473 online.  So, keep in mind that most of what I'm saying here is based off what I found online, and not my personal experience.  And, it's a good thing I checked the E473 manual, because quite a few things do work differently than on my E433.

So, first of all, we'll start with the basics, and I'm guessing you already know this, but I'll cover it here to make sure.  When you load a new style into one of the blank style locations (291-300) and then save that style as part of a registration, it is just saving the memory-location of that style to the registration, and not the actual style data file itself.  So, if you download a style into, say, style number 291, you can save a registration with style number 291, and then hear that style when you select that registration.  But if you then download a different style and also save it as style 291, then your original registration (with style 291) will play the NEW style 291 that you downloaded, not the first style you downloaded.  In this case, the original style is overwritten and gone, so this is something that could cause you to get unexpected styles from registrations.

Next thing to check... That sequence of steps using the Song, Style, and Groove buttons works differently on your keyboard than on mine (again, based on the manual I read).  Apparently, a style will always be stored in a registration, but if the keyboard is in Song mode when you call up that registration, then it will not call up that style.  I guess the keyboard just plays a song selected from the panel controls, instead.  So, after saving a registration, make sure the keyboard is in Style mode when you call up that registration to be able to hear the style that is associated with it.  In fact, if I read the manual correctly, if you have the keyboard in Song mode and load up the registration, simply setting the keyboard to Style mode won't "turn on" the style you saved -- You have to actually call up the registration again after putting the keyboard in Style mode to access the style in that registration.  Note that I'm not sure how all this affects the DJ Grooves.

Finally, this keyboard has certain "Freeze" modes that are accessible from the main function menu.  One of these "Freeze modes" is for the style, and it is for "freezing" the style to whatever the currently selected/playing style is as you change registrations, regardless of what style is saved in those registrations.  This accomplishes what I mentioned above, about allowing you to choose different registrations to change the sounds/tones the keyboard is playing without changing the style in the middle of a song.  So, if you turned on this "style freeze" function somewhere along the line, then that can cause you to hear different styles than you were expecting when you call up different registrations.

Let me know if any of this helps.  However, none of this would seem to explain the distortion you mentioned, so that could still be a concern.
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433 (x2), Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
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Think I found problem but not sure of solution.I enter a style from keyboard to registration memory it works and holds its settings when return to Guests are not allowed to view links. In order to access the links, please Register or Login style from psrtutorial to usb, do my voice,tempo, etc than enter this style to registration memory and works fine. When i return to play again may work properly may not. They are sff1 styles. Thanks again for suggestions they help.
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Okay, glad my information helps.  At this point, I would say to make sure that you're in Style mode whenever you call up registrations where you want to use the style in the registration, and make sure the keyboard is not set to "Style freeze" in the function list.  Let me know if you have any other questions.
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433 (x2), Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
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