News:

PSR Tutorial Forum is Now Back to Life!

Main Menu

Some OTS defaults WAY too loud for the Styles

Started by andy0140, June 27, 2024, 09:16:51 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

andy0140

Hi All,

Anyone else apart from me finding some of the voice volumes for the OTS styles are much too loud for the overall balance of the style ?

Example....Russian Waltz style...OTS1, OTS3 and OTS4 are blaringly too loud ! There are others as well, just using this style as an example. Find a lot of dance styles like this as well.

Can use FC7 pedal controller & obviously individual Voice volumes to lower then re-make new registrations, but surely these voices shouldnt be overpowering the style from "out of the box" defaults ?

KBD volume is untouched at 127, but has to be reduced to 80s to avoid drown out !

By the way, doesnt detract from the outstanding programming, just one of those little annoyances I have found with the G2. Its a remarkable instrument !

Cheers
Andy

Keys:
Yamaha Genos 2
Nektar Impact LX Mini
M-Audio Oxygen Pro 61
Roland RP88

Acoustic:
Kawai K200

Gear:
M-Audio BX8 Studio Monitors
M-Audio BX4 Studio Monitors
Yamaha NSSW050 Subwoofer
Behringer QX1204USB Mixer
Gear4Music MIX04AU Mixer

Toril S

Too loud or too quiet, this problem is on all keyboards. It is very annoying when the voice is too quiet also.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



Toril's PSR Performer Page

andyg

I'm possibly the only person on here who's had to programme factory presets. That was a while ago, the instruments were less complex and the most I had to do for a given instrument was probably 24. It still took time, from scratch (which is the only way to do it properly) it would take me anything up to 20 minutes to get exactly what I wanted. Given the complexity of modern instruments, it would take longer. I might spend half an hour getting something 'right' in a registration for my Genos or my Roland organ these days. And then I'll usually come back the next day and give it another tweak or two!

So spare a thought for my friends at Yamaha (some I've known and worked with for 40+ years) who do the content for their instruments (and the other programmers whom I don't personally know). Let's say you have 600 styles and 4 OTS for each, not to mention Playlists etc. 2400 settings to do, let's split that between 4 programmers. 600 each at 20 minutes a go. 12,000 minutes or 200 hours!

And of course, not everyone hears things the same way, so it's inevitable that if you add that fact to the time constraints, you're going to get some settings that are out of whack to someone's ears! Makes no difference if it's a Yamaha, Korg, Roland or anything else. In fact, we've had a very similar thread on a Roland group in the past few days.

Oh, and the 'experts' (I don't like calling myself that but it's just for comparison to a friend who certainly is!) will sometimes disagree. Back in the late 1990s Hammond launched a new organ. I reviewed it for the trade press at the time at a local Hammond dealer. He said he loved the organ but thought the factory presets were poor. I agreed and proceeded to amend all the settings and saved them all to disk. That disk then made its way around some of Hammond's UK dealers, I'm told! Many years later I was discussing this with a then new 'internet friend'. He wasn't impressed as it was he that had programmed the originals!

It's not what you play, it's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

www.andrew-gilbert.com

EileenL

I have found the OTS on Genos2 to be a little better balanced than the older modals.
It is very hard to please everyone and we also have different settings for touch that we use which will effect the end result. This is why I much prefer to use registration banks set up for my own personal use. I very rarely use OTS.
Eileen