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Started by rodrigo.b, April 23, 2024, 09:46:01 PM

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pjd

Check these videos instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0auTZvDi7EI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2O8ydNHY0o

UJIIE Katsunori! Ujiie could sell me an electronic kazoo.  :D  If you're an Ujeiie fan, it's really amusing to see him demonstrating a beginner keyboard.  :)

-- pj


pjd

The new model has "Auto-chord play" -- basically built-in chord progressions that play for you ("leaving the left hand free"). This raises one-finger playing to a new level.  ;)  50 different progressions.

-- pj

overover

Quote from: pjd on April 24, 2024, 11:23:05 AM
The new model has "Auto-chord play" -- basically built-in chord progressions that play for you ("leaving the left hand free"). This raises one-finger playing to a new level.  ;)  50 different progressions.

-- pj

There are only 8 different Chord Looper presets on Genos2 (one bank for each of the 12 keys). Should I think about selling my (two) Genos2 ...?  ;)


Best regards,
Chris

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● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

p$manK32

Don't do it Chris :D   I have an E373 laying around the house and I see this new one still has the dreaded Function button. But I like the newly designed button panel. I think Yamaha is finally phasing out the white printed voice, style & song menus on their panels.
SX900, DGX-640, E373
previous: MODX7+

overover

PSR-E383 (61 keys)
>>> Product Page
>>> Downloads

PSR-EW320 (76 keys)
>>> Product Page
>>> Downloads


See the PSR-E383 videos on the Yamaha Global YT channel:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/@yamahaglobal/search?query=%22e383%22


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Keyboard Master

Quote from: overover on April 24, 2024, 04:33:12 PM
PSR-E383 Product Page:
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/portable_keyboards/psr-e383/index.html#product-tabs

PSR-E383 Downloads (Owner's Manual and Songbook PDFs):
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/portable_keyboards/psr-e383/downloads.html#product-tabs

All PSR-E383 videos on the Yamaha Global YT channel:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/@yamahaglobal/search?query=%22e383%22


Best regards,
Chris
Hi Chris: thanks for this information. Also I'm curious about the Data list. I would love to see the Voice list.

overover

Quote from: Keyboard Master on April 25, 2024, 06:19:08 AM
Hi Chris: thanks for this information. Also I'm curious about the Data list. I would love to see the Voice list.

Hi Keyboard Master,

For the E373, the Voice List was still included in the Owner's Manual (there was only a separate "Drum Kit List"). The E383 now has a separate "Data List" (which also contains the Voice List), but it is not yet available. Yamaha will probably add the download link for the Data List soon.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

pjd

Hi Chris --

I watched the E383 Style video obsessively. Yamaha seem to use a modified Nashville-type numbering system. Here's some chord progressions that I spotted:

    1645   C  Am F  G     #1
    1625   C  Am Dm G
    1564   C  G  Am F
    1524   C  G  Dm F
    1415   C  F  C  G
    1151   C  C  G  C
   1b741   C  Bb F  C     #7
    2615   Dm Am C  G     #8
    2514   Dm G  C  F     #9
    4536   F  G  Em Am    #11
    4566   F  G  Am Am    #12
   16451   C  Am F  G  C  #23  "Fields of Gold"
    1241   C  Dm F  C     #24
    4251   F  Dm G  C     #25
    1625   C  Am Dm G     #27
    1524   C  G  Dm F     #29
    1415   C  F  C  G     #30
   m1637   Am F  C  G     #37
   m1765   Am G  F  E

I hope I transcribed those correctly. Ujiie is well-known for fast-fingering buttons. :)

Auto-Chord Play has a parameter which specifies the number of beats to hold each chord: 2, 4, or 8 beats.

The E383 lets you set the key signature for the style to be played. Hopefully, Auto-Chord Play transposes according to the key signature (C/Am or whatever).

Amazing what can be done with 4 chords -- pj

Keyboard Master

Quote from: overover on April 25, 2024, 08:22:03 AM
Hi Keyboard Master,

For the E373, the Voice List was still included in the Owner's Manual (there was only a separate "Drum Kit List"). The E383 now has a separate "Data List" (which also contains the Voice List), but it is not yet available. Yamaha will probably add the download link for the Data List soon.


Best regards,
Chris
Thanks anyway.  8) At least very shortly it'll be available:

mikf

Unfortunately, while these progressions cover all the normal 'bulk' of songs, hardly any songs use the same progression all the way through the song. There are nearly always some departures. I am not sure how the keyboard handles those.
Mike

Toril S

I like the that these keyboards are light, so I have considered them for sure. The PSR and Genos are heavy beasts! But there are several dealbreakers for me:
1. The dreaded function button.
2. You can import only 10 styles, and the way to do it is convoluted.
3. Only 2 variations, and no dedicated buttons for them.
4. NO TRANSPOSE BUTTONS ON THE PANEL!!
The last one nearly broke my heart :)

But the styles are nice, the sound is great for the size. Oh, Yes, and no fingered on bass mode! Almost forgot. No whiter shade of pale playing on this one :)

I'll stick to my Genos!
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



Toril's PSR Performer Page

pjd

Well, shucks, it is a beginner keyboard after all.  :)

The self-learning features are interesting although one wonders about their effectiveness. Does Yamaha test this stuff in their domestic music schools?

I flipped through the E383 songbook. When someone asks "How do I get started?", maybe point them at one of Yamaha's songbooks? They're free and Yamaha reuses the same public domain tunes over and over again.

Have a good weekend -- pj

PSR_E473 (Salman)

Well to be honest when the new E383 came out, I was in joy. I checked the videos that yamaha posted and the functions are quite the same as psr-E473 and PSR-EW425 but here are some things that have changed in the keyboard. Firstly, Yamaha ahs uploaded automated chord prog in the new psr-e383  >:( WHICH IT DOES NOT HAVE ON MY PSR-E473 and the layout of the keyboard sucked as it looked like psr-e273 or psr-e283. but to b e very clear, I will stick to my yamaha psr-e473 until psr-e483 comes.

Keyboard Master

I was also curious. Can the E383 play SFF2 styles or is it still SFF1 only like usual. I was just curious.

pjd

Quote from: Keyboard Master on April 29, 2024, 07:35:48 AM
I was also curious. Can the E383 play SFF2 styles or is it still SFF1 only like usual. I was just curious.

The specs claim "SFF" so that's SFF1.

Keyboard Master


ChrisH

Hi Toril


Agree with you 100% .. We moved onto a boat as house rentals were crazy so my SX900 was just too big and I sold it and got myself an E-373 .. great sound BUT everything points to it being a learning keyboard (I guess the "E" is for educational?)  I found that even playing for myself there is noway to transpose without stopping and using the function button and I really found just an intro/ending and 2 variations an absolute killer Never tried the lessons as I never needed them but I suppose if you are an absolute beginner it has it's merits .. You also cannot jump or drop an octave without the function button.  I ended up selling it and buying an OLD S650 cos it was closest to my SX900 but lighter and I was back with 3 intros 3 ending and 4 variations AND OTS ..Of course even though it's an old release it has transpose buttons right where I need them and I can import styles too (yes the styles even on this old one are SFF2) 
Currently : Tyros 4 Keyboard    Previous Keyboards : SX900, S650, E-373 and S550