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Started by Akki, December 02, 2023, 12:57:57 AM

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Akki

Hello group,

I have posted this in Geno's forums but looks like it's dead cus of Genos2 so let me try here 😋

C/P

Wonder if anyone would know sy*** code for OTS Buttons,...
I have located one for OTS4 and looks like its identified as Button 128, but I have trouble for first 3 (F0 43 73 01 52 25 00 01 01 00 01 7F F7)



Edit by overover: I removed your other thread on the same topic from the "Genos - General" board.

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Chicken fry

Hmm.. I'm very happy to help you. But I don't know what's a sy*** code.. Can you tell me what's it and why is it used for?..

overover

Hi Akki,

Why do you need these Sy*** codes?

Do you want to remotely control the OTS buttons from an external device (e.g. computer / tablet), or do you want to use the OTS buttons to control certain functions of an external device?


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

overover

Quote from: Chicken fry on December 02, 2023, 01:33:57 AM
Hmm.. I'm very happy to help you. But I don't know what's a sy*** code.. Can you tell me what's it and why is it used for?..

Hi Chicken fry,

A lot of things on a keyboard are based on the MIDI standard:
>>> https://blog.landr.com/what-is-midi/

Sy*** (= system exclusive messages) are special MIDI messages that are used for many different purposes:
>>> https://blog.landr.com/midi-sy***/


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Akki

Quote from: overover on December 02, 2023, 03:46:25 AM
Hi Akki,

Why do you need these Sy*** codes?

Do you want to remotely control the OTS buttons from an external device (e.g. computer / tablet), or do you want to use the OTS buttons to control certain functions of an external device?


Best regards,
Chris

Good day Chris,

Idea is to Controll Mobile Sheets page turn with OTS 3 (back) OTS 4 (next)
I rarely use those for any sounds anyway as my setup is mainly in REGs

Thanks
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jcook980

Akki,

How did you determine that OTS4 is Button 128 is in that sy*** string?

Jim
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Jim
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Akki

Quote from: jcook980 on December 02, 2023, 12:45:39 PM
Akki,

How did you determine that OTS4 is Button 128 is in that sy*** string?

Jim

You can see it in screenshot above... Mobile Sheets detect it as such.
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Yamaha Genos 2, Yamaha DX100, Korg Pa4x, Roland XP30, Soundcraft Ui16, Presonus Studiolive 1602, Shure WBH54, Beta 58 (2x), JBL PRX 718XLF (2x) & PRX 712 (2x)

https://www.4shared.com/s/dDhZjI8dv

Amwilburn

Quote from: Akki on December 02, 2023, 12:54:06 PM
You can see it in screenshot above... Mobile Sheets detect it as such.

Now I'm confused, none of those pairs is 80; F7 is 127 and 7F at the end is 247...?
Or are we counting from 0 as 1? i.e. adding 1 to each hex code?

Mark

overover

Quote from: Akki on December 02, 2023, 10:56:10 AM
Good day Chris,

Idea is to Controll Mobile Sheets page turn with OTS 3 (back) OTS 4 (next)
I rarely use those for any sounds anyway as my setup is mainly in REGs

Thanks

Thanks for clarification, Akki!

I haven't tried this yet, but I don't think the OTS buttons send fixed Sy***.

By the way, when you press an OTS button, AMCP is automatically switched on and Style Sync Start is activated. Maybe these are the Sy*** that you detected.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Akki

Quote from: overover on December 02, 2023, 02:30:20 PM
Thanks for clarification, Akki!

I haven't tried this yet, but I don't think the OTS buttons send fixed Sy***.

By the way, when you press an OTS button, AMCP is automatically switched on and Style Sync Start is activated. Maybe these are the Sy*** that you detected.


Best regards,
Chris

Thanks to you and trying to help!!
I still couldn't figure out OTS and sy*** ...

BTW, I have ordered this title device https://a.co/d/aT1Jzqu - hoping it will do just what I need.
There is lots of empty space on Genos right side, and this "button" looks small enough to fit anywhere.
Ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent! 🤷🍻

Yamaha Genos 2, Yamaha DX100, Korg Pa4x, Roland XP30, Soundcraft Ui16, Presonus Studiolive 1602, Shure WBH54, Beta 58 (2x), JBL PRX 718XLF (2x) & PRX 712 (2x)

https://www.4shared.com/s/dDhZjI8dv

pjd

Thanks, that's a cool little device! I'll check it out.

I tried to investigate OTS Sy*** on G1 by watching on a MIDI monitor (MIDI OX). Pressing an OTS button sends a lot of messages for voice set-up including a few Sy*** messages. None of the Sy*** messages are unique to a single button.

I don't think it's possible to "learn" an OTS button in the same way as a Registration button/bank.

Have fun -- pj