New TOTL Arranger from Ketron

[Sokratis1974]

I couldn't agree more, Eileen. I estimate 99% of Genos or other arranger users are still interested in playing "human music." It annoys me to no end when any company demos their new keyboard using Funk, Rap, or Dance styles to entice me into buying one. With all due respect to those musicians, I find it takes FAR more talent to play the tunes we were all raised with than a bunch of repetitive noise that hinges itself on the technical prowess of the engineers who created those styles rather than, the musical talent of the player.

Once you've mastered those styles, there seems to be little room for expansion. You've conquered the genre. Learning to play Blues and then taking on the Ray Charles or Oscar Peterson styles requires one to live about 200 years to even scratch the surface - and that's just two artists!

I won't argue. But I should also remind you of the Genos campaign that we never learned about and what its purpose was. If you remember well, with these three DANCE tracks Yamaha did the Genos campaign and until today we didn't find out what these tracks had to do with the Genos.
And in fact, this campaign had a celebrity as its protagonist DJ.
Also I would like to tell you that usually I at least don't label any music as (noise)... If there is even one who expresses himself with it I respect it.. If it bothers me I'm just not interested in it.

GENΟS CAMPAIGN
1) https://youtu.be/jHdbmEGyyNg

2) https://youtu.be/nSJhKv1ZGIk

3) https://youtu.be/ZWLkgGZpJWE

[Lee Batchelor]

"Noise," Sokrtis? You're right. I stand corrected. To play the modern music genres in my aforementioned post, here is the keyboard that is needed to pretty much cover it all 🤣.



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[mikf]

I think it's pretty clear that Socrates is demonstrating the technical capability, not a specific type of music. We can use our imagination and see how the same technology could be applied to all styles - pop, swing, jazz .....and it's a mile easier than the way we currently have to edit our styles on a Yamaha.
Whether that is important to you or not is a separate question. In my view the typical arranger buyer doesn't mess too much with style editing. But then again, is that partly because it's a pain to do so at the moment? What if it was easier. Would we use it much more??
It would be nice to see a very similar demo based on more traditional music styles. I think most of us would find it much more meaningful. One of the concerns I have for keyboard design is that the people driving the design of these keyboards are likely in their 20s and 30s while the buyers are largely in their 50s, 60s and 70s. Do they understand the market, or are they trying to change the market?
I am also in agreement with Bogdan, I see how it makes style editing simple, but what about making a style - especially intros and endings. Is that any easier??
BTW Sokratis, this is a Yamaha users forum and website... not actually Yamaha forum. But I take your point.
Mike

[Bill]

[quote author=Sokratis1974
But I would say it's better to close the issue of the Event here because I'm also starting to feel uncomfortable since this is a Yamaha Forum and not Ketron.
So please don't ask me any more questions about the Event here.
If anyone would like more information, please contact me personally.
Thank you very much.
[/quote]

Hi Sokratis

I can only apologise if some members make you feel uncomfortable (I would too). However I would like to thank you very much for all the time you have taken to give us a little understanding of the new developing technology. I really appreciate it.

Regards

Bill

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
i must say the genos is absolute quality and i am sticking with it
You can turn anything on Genos to wave file anyway.
this keyboard is streets ahead of anything out there in it's class.
Just enhance the Genos with VST  and Sample Robot.
Skies the limit

[Lee Batchelor]

Mike makes an excellent point. I think more users would venture into style creation and modifications if Yamaha made it a lot easier. Admittingly, I haven't spent much time editing or creating styles but from the little time I have devoted I can say the method is a convoluted pain in the neck. And forget style creation. I won't live long enough to figure out that terrible software.

To be fair to Yamaha, most onboard, deep-dive editing is a pain. It would be SO much easier if the style could be loaded onto a PC or Mac, modified, tested, and then passed back to the Genos. Perhaps in Genos 2?

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Lee
Hope you and family are doing well.
If you want great styles ------------------------------https://www.d-o-o.de/
                                          Cross off top part of page and underneath turn german to English
I would not waste time making styles as they are a bit time consuming.
I use Midi Soft Style program to just change styles and turn them into what i want. Great midi program.
You can make your own intro's, turn to wave and put them in the Pad section to fire off, same with breaks and endings.
Also Padmaker is a great program to get the right volume levels and to make things easier
Padmaker can make intro's etc from midi files out there
Skies the limit!!!
These Ketron fans talk of Wave files , But it is all there in the Genos, PADS!!!

All the best
John
HAPPY CHRISTMAS


Ps i will come out soon after the long Mix and master fiasco that i have been put through of my own will.

Pc best for editing
Southern Comfort  best for relaxing!!!

[ton37]

[quote author=Sokratis1974
But I would say it's better to close the issue of the Event here because I'm also starting to feel uncomfortable since this is a Yamaha Forum and not Ketron.
So please don't ask me any more questions about the Event here.
If anyone would like more information, please contact me personally.
Thank you very much.


Hi Sokratis

I can only apologise if some members make you feel uncomfortable (I would too). However I would like to thank you very much for all the time you have taken to give us a little understanding of the new developing technology. I really appreciate it.

Regards

Bill

Bill, You don't have to apologize for some members who, with some short-sightedness, do not wish to have an open discussion because they feel that their 'Genos' should not be subjected to criticism in any way. Anyone can read the posts and sees what's happening.  After all, we're all adults, right?? Just check out a Ketron forum, just as easy.

[mikf]

John
Don't understand your point about re wav files. The points being made in the last few posts in this thread are about much easier style editing, not advantages or otherwise of wav vs midi??
The Genos is a great keyboard, and is arguably better than Ketron in some regards, but what Ketron have done here appears to be a major breakthrough in easy style modification, and certainly interesting.
Mike

[Lee Batchelor]

Doing great, thanks John 🎄!

I sure agree that it's easier to buy or acquire ready made styles. They certainly are difficult to get right. Someday I may venture down that path.
Stay well!

- Lee

[rphillipchuk]

I think that  "BogdanH"  was correct in asking how "easy" it would be,  to create a New Style !   

Let's be honest, creating a new style from scratch is a little daunting , but if it is as simple as grabbing a Drum phrase, add some real bass and you would have a great start to a new style

[EileenL]

The purpose of the three video's mentioned before was that Genos was being used along with the Berlin Orchestra to play some of the Drum patterns and style parts using some of the Knob assigned effects to these showing how easy it is to use in live performance.

[Sokratis1974]

The purpose of the three video's mentioned before was that Genos was being used along with the Berlin Orchestra to play some of the Drum patterns and style parts using some of the Knob assigned effects to these showing how easy it is to use in live performance.

Dear EileenL.
Although as I wrote above, I don't want to continue this discussion, however because this answer is not about Event but about Genos and about my own comment, I would like to say a few things.
First let me disagree with your point and I would like to explain why I disagree.
So, I disagree because when a company creates a campaign like in this case Yamaha with Genos, it must (and is required) be clear with what it projects and with what it promotes.
So, I will remind you what happened then.
Yamaha started the campaign before the official launch of the Genos by releasing these three mysterious videos that I personally never understood, and I never got any response to the emails I sent to the company.
So, all three of these videos contain the exact same direction and the focus is the Berlin Symphony, a lot of unrelated exterior shots (especially in the first video) and some very rushed shots from Genos that of course have nothing to do with the style or the sound that seems to have been chosen by the protagonist Alex Christensen.
So, I ask you: Can you find anything familiar (from Genos) in these videos? Because as you know I've had Genos since early 2018 and I hear absolutely nothing whether it's Style or Sound or whatever.
On the contrary, all three of these pieces (as far as the rhythmic electronic part is concerned) are programmed in some daw (Cubase etc.) and not some Style and we understand this above all from the pauses that exist between the pieces that are almost impossible to exist pauses in such a way in a style.
You will of course tell me that in a studio everything can be done and of course you will be right.
But in campaigning for such an instrument what should be advertised is what Real Time can achieve and not in a studio where something can practically be created (from the instrument itself) in which it is practically impossible to reproduce Real Time.
And that's because the reason all arrangers are built is to produce Real Time music through Styles.
Also let me tell you that for 22 years I have been producing music on the computer (independent of Arrangers) and I know very well when a track is programmed.
But regardless of the technical issues, I want to see things more clearly.
If Yamaha wanted to do a real campaign that made sense, then they would put the musician who would accompany the orchestra with the Genos, right next to it and they would play together while making a full description of what we are seeing.
Instead on Yamaha's site there was a completely unrelated slogan "GENOS IN ACTION" which led to these three videos without the slightest explanation of what we were seeing.
If you search the comments, you will still find the confusion created by Yamaha users who never understood what they were seeing.
So, you want me to remind you of the description of these videos (even today)?

VIDEO FIRST DATED SEPTEMBER 15, 2017:
https://youtu.be/jHdbmEGyyNg
After establishing the genre "Orchestral Dance Music" with volumes 1-3 of CLASSICAL 90's DANCE, Alex Christensen is now back with CLASSICAL 80's DANCE: The DJ, producer, talent-scout and songwriter now builds new homes for smash-hits of the 80s , timelessly staged. Catchy melodies, which are firmly anchored in our collective memory, combined with new orchestral arrangements. Besides Felix Räuber, who is the former frontman of Polarkreis 18, "Classical 80s Dance" hosts many national and international artists such as Ronan Keating, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Gary Barlow, Bonny Tyler and many more:
All videos of Classical 80s & 90s Dance by Marcel Brell.

SECOND VIDEO DATED SEPTEMBER 22, 2017
https://youtu.be/nSJhKv1ZGIk
After establishing the genre "Orchestral Dance Music" with volumes 1-3 of CLASSICAL 90's DANCE, Alex Christensen is now back with CLASSICAL 80's DANCE: The DJ, producer, talent-scout and songwriter now builds new homes for smash-hits of the 80s , timelessly staged. Catchy melodies, which are firmly anchored in our collective memory, combined with new orchestral arrangements. Besides Felix Räuber, who is the former frontman of Polarkreis 18, "Classical 80s Dance" hosts many national and international artists such as Ronan Keating, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Gary Barlow, Bonny Tyler and many more:
All videos of Classical 80s & 90s Dance by Marcel Brell

THIRD VIDEO DATED SEPTEMBER 29, 2017
https://youtu.be/ZWLkgGZpJWE
After establishing the genre "Orchestral Dance Music" with volumes 1-3 of CLASSICAL 90's DANCE, Alex Christensen is now back with CLASSICAL 80's DANCE: The DJ, producer, talent-scout and songwriter now builds new homes for smash-hits of the 80s , timelessly staged. Catchy melodies, which are firmly anchored in our collective memory, combined with new orchestral arrangements. Besides Felix Räuber, who is the former frontmann of Polarkreis 18, "Classical 80s Dance" hosts many national and international artists such as Ronan Keating, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Gary Barlow, Bonny Tyler and many more:
All videos of Classical 80s & 90s Dance by Marcel Brell

So, I ask you. Can you make any sense out of it all?
Do you find any logic in this campaign?
Personally, not only do I not find it logical, but I also think it contains elements of deception.
I also must tell you that I too, watching these videos, initially had very high expectations, but these were dashed when I heard the (real demos) and not the (fakes).
You will of course ask me why I bought it?
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'm a fan of Audio Styles if (I know a lot of you don't like it at all).
So, as I said before, I was always looking for an opportunity to buy a Yamaha arranger, this opportunity appeared when I saw the Audio Phraser through which we could have Live Drum direct from disc through a time stretch algorithm (as is done in Ketron).
I finally bought it (the Genos) and Yamaha despite emails never perfected that program (Audio Phraser) and to this day it remains literally useless.
Of course, I found a solution through REX Files, but it had a cost to the Ram.
Thanks.

[ton37]

Dear Sokratis, live up to your name: be wise  . In my opinion you are right on quite a few points, but save your energy trying to convince some of the 'Genos' hardliners on this forum with correct arguments. Hopefully we will see more results from both the Korg and the Ketron in the foreseeable future. Whether Yamaha is still in the picture to surpass, I highly doubt. It will be more of the same as Korg. Ketron steers its own course. Next year, around this time, we can compare the Yamaha Genos 3, the Korg Pa5x and the Ketron Event. Ultimately, the consumers decide. Happy keyboarding 

[Sokratis1974]

Dear Sokratis, live up to your name: be wise  . In my opinion you are right on quite a few points, but save your energy trying to convince some of the 'Genos' hardliners on this forum with correct arguments. Hopefully we will see more results from both the Korg and the Ketron in the foreseeable future. Whether Yamaha is still in the picture to surpass, I highly doubt. It will be more of the same as Korg. Ketron steers its own course. Next year, around this time, we can compare the Yamaha Genos 3, the Korg Pa5x and the Ketron Event. Ultimately, the consumers decide. Happy keyboarding 

My friend ton37 I'm not trying to convince anyone. Personally, it is enough for me that opinions are expressed wherever they come from.. Everyone evaluates and draws their own conclusions.

[BogdanH]

I admit, that I never saw these three "Genos campaign" videos before. But watching them now, I see no relation to Genos whatsoever. Yes, there are few very short Genos flashes inside, but then, there I can also see flash of Mercedes and Renault cars... From what I read in the post, Yamaha used those video clips for Genos campaign? I ask, because (again) I see no relation to Yamaha there.

Back to (Ketron) topic...
@sokratis
I am aware, that Event isn't on market yet and that things are still being polished -means, at this point, certain details can't be shared in public.
As I mentioned many times, I really am impressed by Ketron Event and that's because of two reasons: visual appearance (obviously) and because, from what I can read, it's quite easy to get very good results on it (compared to competition). But "from what I can read" just isn't enough -it's still just a rumor. And that's why I said, that I would like to see more "specific" video content. But I get it: it's probably too early for that.
In short, it wasn't my intention to criticize your video -I was only telling what I'm personally interested on.

Best wishes,
Bogdan

[Sokratis1974]

I admit, that I never saw these three "Genos campaign" videos before. But watching them now, I see no relation to Genos whatsoever. Yes, there are few very short Genos flashes inside, but then, there I can also see flash of Mercedes and Renault cars... From what I read in the post, Yamaha used those video clips for Genos campaign? I ask, because (again) I see no relation to Yamaha there.

Back to (Ketron) topic...
@sokratis
I am aware, that Event isn't on market yet and that things are still being polished -means, at this point, certain details can't be shared in public.
As I mentioned many times, I really am impressed by Ketron Event and that's because of two reasons: visual appearance (obviously) and because, from what I can read, it's quite easy to get very good results on it (compared to competition). But "from what I can read" just isn't enough -it's still just a rumor. And that's why I said, that I would like to see more "specific" video content. But I get it: it's probably too early for that.
In short, it wasn't my intention to criticize your video -I was only telling what I'm personally interested on.

Best wishes,
Bogdan

Yes, these three videos were the official Genos campaign..Isn't that really weird?...  No problem my friend. I didn't see any criticism. It's all opinions..

[Lee Batchelor]

The good news about this whole thread is that there are two new arrangers on the market that have raised the bar over the Genos in many ways. Yamaha now has a bench mark with which to work and if history is any lesson, Yamaha will surpass those two new arrangers by a mile. They should because they have always been regarded as an industry leader in all their musical instrument products.

As a sidebar, I went into my music store a few years back, looking to buy an acoustic guitar to use with my jazz trio. I played guitar in my youth but went straight to piano and organ for my musical hobby. I wanted a guitar so I could strum chords for some of the songs in the jazz trio - just for a change in sound. I budgeted about $1,000. I asked the guitar rep about something in a decent price range for a beginner player (I know a lot of chords but I'm not even house broken on soling). I thought he would take a Fender, Martin, Taylor, or Takamine off the wrack. Nope, he grabbed a student Yamaha guitar. The neck was slightly narrower for easier learning, had a cut away body past the octave fret, onboard tuner, and pickup for connecting to my Bose speakers. Price with case included $649. At the time, I didn't buy it but I'm still considering the purchase. The point is, of all the big players in the guitar industry, he chose Yamaha for its price versus benefits. I'm sure each of the other companies offer a student version (not sure about Taylor) but he chose Yamaha.

I'm sure Genos 2 won't let us down 😀.

[Amwilburn]

Dear EileenL.
*snip*
VIDEO FIRST DATED SEPTEMBER 15, 2017:
https://youtu.be/jHdbmEGyyNg
After establishing the genre "Orchestral Dance Music" with volumes 1-3 of Classical 90's DANCE, Alex Christensen is now back with Classical 80's DANCE: The DJ, producer, talent-scout and songwriter now builds new homes for smash-hits of the 80s , timelessly staged. Catchy melodies, which are firmly anchored in our collective memory, combined with new orchestral arrangements. Besides Felix Räuber, who is the former frontman of Polarkreis 18, "Classical 80s Dance" hosts many national and international artists such as Ronan Keating, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Gary Barlow, Bonny Tyler and many more:
All videos of Classical 80s & 90s Dance by Marcel Brell.

Odd. You said they're official Yamaha Genos teasers, but they're both published by Alex Christiansen. Moreover, none of the hashtags include Yamaha. Which would be antithetical for a Yamaha Genos promo, no? Nowhere do any of the videos claim anything but an actual orchestra. Ok, the EDM drums are electronic, I supposed that could've come from a Genos. But they didn't claim Genos *anywhere* on all of those videos...?

As a dealer, *this* was the only teaser video we were given prior to launch:
As you can see, published by Yamaha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sva8QktXf0

My question is, why do you say these are Genos promos? (Could have been, but as a dealer in Canada, we were never given these links, and the links you provide don't hashtag Yamaha or Genos at all)

Incidentally (I know mikf will get a kick out of this) we've had the Pa5x side by side with the Genos since launch (technically July of 2022). We've since sold significantly more Genos than Pa5x (they've somehow made the operating system even more obtuse and difficult to navigate). But yes, I think the seamless patch switching, the piano, hammond organs, Classical guitars, lead and pad synths, and drums are even better than the Genos (it's pretty slight in either direction at this point; with the exception of strings: Solo strings Korg has a *slight* edge, but ensemble strings ensemble choir, the Genos is *quite* a bit ahead). However, Korg's multiple "Tutti" orchestral patches are significantly better than Yamaha's Tutti (20 year old sample! Time for a new one!).

Mark

[Sokratis1974]

Odd. You said they're official Yamaha Genos teasers, but they're both published by Alex Christiansen. Moreover, none of the hashtags include Yamaha. Which would be antithetical for a Yamaha Genos promo, no? Nowhere do any of the videos claim anything but an actual orchestra. Ok, the EDM drums are electronic, I supposed that could've come from a Genos. But they didn't claim Genos *anywhere* on all of those videos...?

As a dealer, *this* was the only teaser video we were given prior to launch:
As you can see, published by Yamaha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sva8QktXf0

My question is, why do you say these are Genos promos? (Could have been, but as a dealer in Canada, we were never given these links, and the links you provide don't hashtag Yamaha or Genos at all)

Incidentally (I know mikf will get a kick out of this) we've had the Pa5x side by side with the Genos since launch (technically July of 2022). We've since sold significantly more Genos than Pa5x (they've somehow made the operating system even more obtuse and difficult to navigate). But yes, I think the seamless patch switching, the piano, hammond organs, Classical guitars, lead and pad synths, and drums are even better than the Genos (it's pretty slight in either direction at this point; with the exception of strings: Solo strings Korg has a *slight* edge, but ensemble strings ensemble choir, the Genos is *quite* a bit ahead).

Mark

My dear friend, I'm sorry, but I did not create in my mind all that I am describing. I've experienced all of this (as have others) and I've never been able to explain it.
Since you probably don't know what happened, I'll say it again.
So, Yamaha uploaded one of these videos on its official website just before the official presentation every week, specifically on SEPTEMBER 15, 2017, SEPTEMBER 22, 2017 and SEPTEMBER 29, 2017 in the order I put them in my above post.
The title that Yamaha put on its website was: GENOS IN ACTION and it led to these videos.
Of course, there was not the slightest other explanation and not even in the description of the videos there was even the slightest reference, or hashtag regarding the Genos even though there is a clear (product placement) Yamaha since even the headphones that the girl in the first video wears clearly have the Yamaha logo.
And since I always like to talk with facts, I would like to attach some to you. So, I searched and found some comments (which I remembered from the first moments of posting the videos) and I am attaching them to you as Screenshot.
https://app.box.com/s/uee5kwekjav7iuhd3awqej23kk5rnfkv
Also, from an official Yamaha Facebook page at the time, fortunately I had taken a screenshot of the publication of the video with hashtag (#genos) and I have attached this to you as well.
so, I am attaching this to you as well.
So, see in the link I am sending you the YouTube comments I found today, what the people who were directed to these videos by the Yamaha site said in the first days. Because if there was no Yamaha publication there would be no reason for all of them to comment critically on Yamaha.
I had also made a specific publication in this Forum which of course did not come to any conclusion.
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,46477.0.html
So you see for those who don't know the specific facts that it was beyond reason? Why Yamaha did it only they know. But the facts do not change.

[Duffy]

I will back up what Sokratis has said because I also remember seeing these 3 teaser videos and Yamaha using them as an advert for the coming Genos.
I remember, at the time, watching the videos and wondering what part the keyboard played in all this as the message seemed to pass me by.
The links HAD come from Yamaha themselves.

[pjd]

My dear friend, I'm sorry, but I did not create in my mind all that I am describing. I've experienced all of this (as have others) and I've never been able to explain it.

I don't want to re-litigate the whole teaser discussion, but I'm with Sokratis on this one.

Yamaha laid out a bunch of product-placement money -- catch the headphones in the studio, too? That whole teaser thing left a lot of potential customers confused about the product, myself included. (I drew some far-fetched, but plausible inferences that proved to be wrong.) 

If any company pulls this teaser B.S. again, I'm going to call them on it. 

Oh, well -- pj

[Amwilburn]

Ah...from facebook. I guess that helps explain it... I don't think I've ever looked at any official ads from any corporation through facebook; Nor did Yamaha Canada every mention/show us that. Yes, if they linked it from an official page, that is an absolutely baffling campaign... as I said, the videos themselves don't even reference Yamaha or Genos save for a flash of the corner of a keyboard. But watching them, nowhere did I get the impression that the music was coming from a Genos (Berlin Orchestra was plastered all over the videos) so I still don't understand your "deception" comments.

I mean, no, the Genos is not as impressive as an actual orchestra (no keyboard is... yet) but I think the Genos is still ahead of the curve there. As per my actual live demos (that I can't recreate on any other brand key because I don't have full style programming control and instant registration switching)
Yes my playing is sloppy :p And yes I cheated *slightly*; on half of these registrations I swapped out the Yamaha default Tutti for the CMS Orchestra (so I could create different levels of crescendo), except for "PoTC" because I hadn't thought of doing that yet. That's just Yamaha's old "Tutti" -- which is getting a little long in the tooth, I hope they add a new one in the G2. Korg's PA5x has several versions of the Tutti crash, and they are wonderfully similar to the CMS one. Shame about the upper register of strings, though. PA5x even has one with a Tutti Crash combined with bass notes from a piano... absolutely perfect for Cliff Eidelman/ Danny Elfman scores!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UBkmhTW9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NRr4Npi_ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOSmEEX-5Ks

However, Sokratis, thank you for finding a pic of that! Hah, no wonder Yamaha Canada has ever mentioned a facebook page!

Mark (the #fatguyonkeys on youtube)

[Sokratis1974]

Ah...from facebook. I guess that helps explain it... I don't think I've ever looked at any official ads from any corporation through facebook; Nor did Yamaha Canada every mention/show us that. Yes, if they linked it from an official page, that is an absolutely baffling campaign... as I said, the videos themselves don't even reference Yamaha or Genos save for a flash of the corner of a keyboard. But watching them, nowhere did I get the impression that the music was coming from a Genos (Berlin Orchestra was plastered all over the videos) so I still don't understand your "deception" comments.

I mean, no, the Genos is not as impressive as an actual orchestra (no keyboard is... yet) but I think the Genos is still ahead of the curve there. As per my actual live demos (that I can't recreate on any other brand key because I don't have full style programming control and instant registration switching)
Yes my playing is sloppy :p And yes I cheated *slightly*; on half of these registrations I swapped out the Yamaha default Tutti for the CMS Orchestra (so I could create different levels of crescendo), except for "PoTC" because I hadn't thought of doing that yet. That's just Yamaha's old "Tutti" -- which is getting a little long in the tooth, I hope they add a new one in the G2. Korg's PA5x has several versions of the Tutti crash, and they are wonderfully similar to the CMS one. Shame about the upper register of strings, though. PA5x even has one with a Tutti Crash combined with bass notes from a piano... absolutely perfect for Cliff Eidelman/ Danny Elfman scores!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UBkmhTW9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NRr4Npi_ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOSmEEX-5Ks

However, Sokratis, thank you for finding a pic of that! Hah, no wonder Yamaha Canada has ever mentioned a facebook page!

Mark (the #fatguyonkeys on youtube)

You didn't understand again. The campaign did not start from Facebook but from the official Yamaha site (I think Yamaha USA) I don't remember exactly. The slogan GENOS IN ACTION and the videos there were posted. So later there was also a publication on Facebook and it is in the screenshot that I have attached to you.

[Henni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGppdIbencU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8M-E7vZrLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9COE0QFkjU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uki-bcmmsIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QScDR98EKNY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2Y92Q4t_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdU8ywSvQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioBCBakUGjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnns0V3HNlU

[DerekA]

Have to agree with Duffy and PJD; that whole marketing campaign, which was not via facebook, suggested Genos was being used in those audio clips, which it clearly wasn't.

I did speak with someone closely involved with the Genos content development who said that this marketing campaign was devised by Yamaha Germany, and that he personally thought it was a mistake.

Doesn't stop me loving my Genos. But it would be really interesting to see if anyone could create something similar to those trailers just using Genos.

[Henni]

WOW!!! You are AMAZING!!! & extremely talented Sokratis!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFr2Z_h71_c

[Jeff Hollande]

Congratulations, Sokratis !!!

A very nice piece of music you made there. What a great sound.

Best regards, JH

[Henni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJnhl4HXotU

[Lee Batchelor]

Nice video, Henni. Does the Event use round robin backing tracks? They are far more interesting than the Genos. Less repetitive.