Expansion of tyros 4

[Biglou#1545]

 If there are no expansion packs for the Tyros 4 there is no need for the expansion module r the manager is there ? There certainly is no shortage of gig packs and voices here in the PSR easily downloaded to a USB . Am I correct ? I appreciate any input . thanks Biglou .

[tyrosguy85]

I agree Biglou,
So annoying that the now free Yamaha packs will not work on a Tyros 4,I have no future plans to upgrade to a Tyros 5 or other keyboard.
Can anyone convert them to work for all us Tyros 4 owners?
Thanks
John.

[dragonkeys]

You could try the "Superior Pack" pack of play sounds.

Best regards.

Michael

[dragonkeys]

https://playsoundsusa.wixsite.com/playsounds-store

Check this!

[Arnak]

Hi,

There are plenty of new voices and styles for the T4 out there :-

https://soundpacks.co.uk/collections/popular-packs/tyros-4

https://www.strawberrymusicltd.com/product-category/yamaha/yamaha-tyros-4/

Those should get you started plus a google search for Tyros 4 sounds will find even more.

Martin

[whisperdancer]

I agree Biglou,
So annoying that the now free Yamaha packs will not work on a Tyros 4,I have no future plans to upgrade to a Tyros 5 or other keyboard.
Can anyone convert them to work for all us Tyros 4 owners?
Thanks
John.

Yes. It's so stupid from Yamaha not to make the T4 packs available, while they became free for Tyros5... I will never understand that. So many wonderfull voices that I will never be able to use in the keyboard, even if I wanted to pay for them.

[Denn]

Are you looking for UVN voices to load into your extended memory?
Regards, Denn.

[EileenL]

Well like everything keyboards change and have different applications and different ways of dealing with Sample packs. I think we must accept this.

[whisperdancer]

Well like everything keyboards change and have different applications and different ways of dealing with Sample packs. I think we must accept this.

At least yamaha could provide the old expansion packs that were available at the time, not producing anything new for the T4.

[EileenL]

Unfortunately this is a fact of life. Technology moves on and systems change. I know many people complained about having to wait for voices to load before you could play the keyboard and many wanted more space for there packs so Yamaha bought out the new system. 

[gabrielschuck]

Yes. It's so stupid from Yamaha not to make the T4 packs available, while they became free for Tyros5... I will never understand that. So many wonderfull voices that I will never be able to use in the keyboard, even if I wanted to pay for them.

We will never be able to understand the reason for all this.
There were extra audio styles for tyros5 that just disappeared from the store.
Those who did not buy can no longer buy.
And the reason?
Nobody knows.
Tyros5 for example does not have any Brazilian Yamaha pack like the other most current keyboards of the brand.
They make a lot of money, but they don't want to work to convert these packs and make them compatible with old keyboards.
They can do that, but it doesn't pay off, unfortunately.
The latin pack for example was available for Tyros4 and now not anymore, only for tyros5.

[gabrielschuck]

Unfortunately this is a fact of life. Technology moves on and systems change. I know many people complained about having to wait for voices to load before you could play the keyboard and many wanted more space for there packs so Yamaha bought out the new system.

Sorry, but that doesn't convince me.
I cannot accept as a justification for Yamaha to remove all available packs for the Tyros4. And I remember there were several, at a time when I couldn't buy these keyboards, nor these items in the online store, but I remember that perfectly.
Including several premium styles for the s910 that also disappeared. At the time, I really wanted to buy these styles, but I couldn't because I lacked experience with online shopping.

Yes, it's true that the Tyros4 has limitations regarding the amount of sampled voices, wave count limit etc, and it's good that Yamaha improved this in the other models.
But it's absurd the way she ages her old products.
I already said in another thread that here in Brazil, discarding a keyboard is not as simple as it seems.
There are users who can buy the best that technology has to offer and not use even 50%. And others who have a low purchasing power and must settle for what is available, as is the case.
Regards,
Gabriel

[EileenL]

There are still UVN files around which were used on Tyros 4 but they are third party ones and not the Yamaha voices.

[whisperdancer]

Yes, but no super articulation or live sounds like the ones on the expansion packs.
I'm with Gabriel: I still don't know why can't Yamaha offer the old packs like they do on the T5 and Genos. Just like the free Mixed Choir voice they offer on several official websites.

[serjoza]

.all packages are again available for download. Everyone can download them for free when registering the product

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[NativeAngels]

I've downloaded these and attempted to install them some worked, some unable to load. Have you managed to test these?

[overover]

I've downloaded these and attempted to install them some worked, some unable to load. Have you managed to test these?

Hi NativeAngels,

It is important to leave the names of the unpacked Premium Pack folders unchanged when copying them to the USB stick, i.e. the ending ".YP2" or ".yp2" in the folder name must be retained. Then the packs should be visible in "Function > Pack Installation" and they should can be installed from the USB stick.

Unfortunately I no longer have a Tyros4 and therefore can't try out what was said myself. I also don't know whether these packs that are currently being downloaded from Yamaha will work without first importing a "License Key". (Previously, when purchasing the first Premium Pack, the Tyros4 Instrument ID had to be uploaded to YamahaMusicSoft. Then you could download a "License Key" and had to import it into the Tyros4.) If necessary, I recommend asking Yamaha Support directly about this.

Here is some information about installing Premium Packs on Tyros4:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRGkh5Pb694


Best regards,
Chris

[overover]

.all packages are again available for download. Everyone can download them for free when registering the product

You should be able to download the zip file with the Tyros4 Premium Packs from the following link without logging in to the Yamaha website.

However, I don't know whether the Tyros4 has to be registered on the Yamaha site for successful installation of the packs and whether a "license key" is required. As already mentioned, please contact Yamaha Support directly if necessary.
>>> Tyros4 Download Files (.YP2).zip


Best regards,
Chris

[serjoza]

I installed them all without a problem and without a license key

[NativeAngels]

How much memory does your Tyros4 have, my has the 512Mb expansion. I will try again tomorrow

Thanks for the information over and over.

[serjoza]

my TYROS 4 has 1 GB memory

[NativeAngels]

When you unzipped the archive did you put them all in the root of the usb drive ?

[serjoza]

yes, exactly like that and then gradually installed via pack installation

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[NativeAngels]

For the Euro Organ and Entertainer packs I get data error

[serjoza]

I think you don't have enough memory to install all the packages. It is necessary to have at least 300 Mb of free space on HD1

[NativeAngels]

I get a message saying data error for both the entertainer and Euro organ packs both have been re downloaded and unzipped. There is plenty of room on the hard disk.

[NativeAngels]

I format the expansion memory, then the Euro Organ Pack installed ok

[NativeAngels]

Problem was the usb drive I was using

[dE.niz]

yes, exactly like that and then gradually installed via pack installation

I downloaded these packs.
I am very grateful to you for this.
Everything works as desired, but be careful because you need at least 1 GB to install everything.

[Denn]

Pleeeaase, How do you uninstall the expansion packs? I have many packs loaded on my T4 and I have wondered how I can off load some.
Regards, Denn.