No Yamaha News is good News ?

[stephenm52]

Yes, there are a lot of people with a high interest in Yamahas next offerings .......but most of them are dealers, not consumers. The average arranger player doesn't spend much time thinking about what is coming next  on Yamahas TOTL arranger these days, because what they already have meets or exceeds their needs. It was different when the technology was ramping up fast, but now we are on the mature part of the curve.
Mike

Mike, You are spot on with your comments.

[DerekA]

Probably true, but I don't think there's any harm in some idle discussion about what might be. How much of our daily conversation is around speculating wildly about what might happen whether it's about family, work, sport, whatever.

There's no need to read / contribute to a thread if you don't like the topic!

[Toril S]

I will haul out my crystal ball and look into it to find out what Yamaha is workng on😀😀

[Jeff Hollande]

As far as I am concerned -  I started this thread - I will end this conversation. 

We do not know the answer ... time will tell ... and like Eileen is saying : " Enjoy what you have ". She is absolutely right.

Keep smiling, JH

[Lee Batchelor]

If I may Jeff, and to yours and Mike's point...

For years, I have used my arrangers' styles in the left hand and only piano or e.piano in the right hand. In other words, my bases have been well covered by just a fraction of what those arrangers could do. I have recently been hired by a very good R&B band and they need lots of pianos, brass and wind sections, solo brass, solo winds, string sections, and a boat load of B3 samples for making their music sound authentic. This has forced me to open the trunk full of Genos voices that I've never used. I have a few hurdles to overcome on the B3 organ front but I'll get there. Aside from that, the voices I mentioned sound amazing and even better in a mix with the other band members.

As Mike said about reaching the "peak of the curve," where Yamaha has come very close to the sound the actual instruments make - where do you go from up? For Yamaha to beat what they have created in the Genos, it would take a miracle.

Rather than a bunch of new voices, we'll probably see more tools for using those voices. A prime example for me is a separate mixer control screen for the drum kits' individual part volumes. That would be a major improvement. I say this because virtually every kick drum is WAY too loud when played over decent sound systems. It would be nice to turn it down without having to go through all the hoops of creating a User kit, and just saving it as a registration. Being able to EQ a certain drum instrument would also be nice. Maybe there's a way to do this and I have just missed it? I wouldn't be surprised.

Okay Jeff, now I'm done. Thanks !

[soundphase]

These are simulations, and darn good simulations. If you want perfect you need to use a real instrument. And the vast majority of these arrangers are bought by people who dont need perfect.
Mike

A lot of soundtracks are composed on DAWs with samples and no real instruments.
I like the Genos a lot. But I extensively use the free CMS samples. So, that's not a reason for me to consider it's not interesting to have better sounds.

Perhaps the vast majority of arrangers buyers don't need perfect sounds. To be honest, I have no idea at all as I don't have access to market analysis.

[janamdo]

I will haul out my crystal ball and look into it to find out what Yamaha is workng on😀😀

Hey Toril,
What does your crystal ball tells you about the new coming psr keyboards

[DerekA]

Being able to EQ a certain drum instrument would also be nice. Maybe there's a way to do this and I have just missed it? I wouldn't be surprised.

Have a look at the Drum Setup function within the style creator. You can adjust the sound of individual drums in a number of ways (not EQ, but level), then save as a user style.

[Toril S]

It tells me that we have ro wait for the answer😀😀

[keynote]

I think the Genos is currently sufficient for most if not all of our keyboard needs for now. Whether gigging, studio production, recording, mixing, etc., or home hobbyists who play for their own enjoyment, the Genos is great for what it is. HOWEVER, there is ALWAYS room for improvement. MIDI 2.0 is now officially certified and hopefully, when the Genos successor arrives on the scene it will once again blow away the competition and include MIDI 2.0 implementation. Yamaha has had plenty of time to produce a Genos successor but there have been some obstacles to the process as we know. The COVID global pandemic, global Chip shortage, Container Ship backlog, and bottleneck, and Yamaha's new business model of releasing products on a more suitable timetable. Yamaha knows the Genos is top shelf and still the current reigning champion of arranger keyboards currently on the market. Sorry, Korg.  So there's really no rush if you know what I mean. And these delays give Yammie a wonderful opportunity, so to speak, to focus on providing a Genos successor that is truly a game-changer as far as new features, functions, and overall sound quality that potentially induces a lot of hype (and hope) which meets or exceeds our expectations. Yes, it will probably cost an arm and a leg but the current Genos still holds quite a bit of value as a trade-in. I'm thinking it will be released in 2023, 2024, or thereabouts. For instance, the Montage has been around since March of 2016 but Yamaha still hasn't released a successor. But of course, the Montage is still receiving OS updates as far as I understand which keeps Montage owners quite happy I would think in the interim. But I do think Yamaha has slammed the door shut on new OS updates for the Genos in my opinion. So potentially we could see a Genos successor released before a new Yamaha synth is announced.  👍     

[Jeff Hollande]

Only Yamaha can answer your questions.

All speculations are useless.

Wait and see.

That is all folks.
Amen.

Bye for now. JH

[Lee Batchelor]

Have a look at the Drum Setup function within the style creator. You can adjust the sound of individual drums in a number of ways (not EQ, but level), then save as a user style.

Thanks, DerekA. I'll look into that.

[Toril S]

LOL! Jeff is trying to close the topic, but we rave on. Keyboarders always like to dream and speculate😀😀 It is fun😀

[Roger Brenizer]

Enough has probably been said concerning this issue.  I've closed this topic pursuant to your request, Jeff.