Will SongBook+ adapt to DGX-670?

Bromma · February 13, 2021, 06:13:52 AM

I know that Tyros, Genos and Clavinova can work with SongBook+ and event get registration settings when you choose a new song in your library. Do you think DGX-670 can do that?

Rick D. · February 13, 2021, 08:41:05 AM

Bromma,

This is a link to the manual, if you have midi connections, it will work but you will also need a midi to iPad interface. Go to section 20.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jlmruhtvhihsv/UserManual-SongBook%2B_3_3_rev1_EN.pdf?dl=0

Rick D.

overover · February 13, 2021, 03:42:28 PM

Quote from: Bromma on February 13, 2021, 06:13:52 AM
I know that Tyros, Genos and Clavinova can work with SongBook+ and event get registration settings when you choose a new song in your library. Do you think DGX-670 can do that?

Hi Bromma,

I couldn't find any information about whether the DGX-670's registrations can be switched externally via MIDI.

This was already possible with the PSR-9000. This option has been removed with the Tyros1. From Tyros2 it worked again (via Bank Select MSB / LSB and ProgramChange). With PSR-S models it only works with PSR-S975/775.

With the Genos, a new "external switch option" for Registrations has been added (namely via Sy***) that even works in both directions. This also works on PSR-SX.

This may also work on the DGX-670. But it could also be that Yamaha simply "forgot" to implement this (similar to what is probably the case with the import function for Music Finder files (.mfd) on the DGX-670.)

If you have an iPad, you could simply try out whether the Registrations can be switched externally or not:

- You need a USB type AB cable and an Apple Camera Adapter suitable for the iPad. Use this to connect the iPad to the USB-to-host socket of the DGX-670.

- Install the "Songbook+" app (by BauM Software) on the iPad. The app initially runs in demo mode, but that's enough for testing.

- The necessary settings in Songbook+ for linking "Songs" (text or sheet music) with the corresponding Registration on the keyboard can be found in these special instructions from the Songbook+ developer:
>>> http://www.baum-software.ch/downloads/OtherManuals/Manual_Yamaha_Genos_SongBook.pdf

Alternatively, you could of course also ask Yamaha support. But if I were you, I would just try it out myself, as just described.

If you have any further questions, just get in touch here!

Best regards,
Chris

Doyle2468 · September 26, 2021, 10:48:09 AM

The answer is yes, I was able to work it out. I can't easily describe all I did.

I found the manual at http://www.baum-software.ch/downloads/OtherManuals/Manual_Yamaha_SongBook.pdf
more useful than the Geno version referenced above. One must "translate" the certain aspects of manual into DGX-670 terminology/operations.

Regards

overover · September 26, 2021, 01:02:29 PM

Quote from: Doyle2468 on September 26, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
The answer is yes, I was able to work it out. I can't easily describe all I did.

I found the manual at http://www.baum-software.ch/downloads/OtherManuals/Manual_Yamaha_SongBook.pdf
more useful than the Geno version referenced above. One must "translate" the certain aspects of manual into DGX-670 terminology/operations. ...

Hi Doyle,

>>> Which method are you talking about:

"Songbook+ controls keyboard" (via MSB/LSB/ProgramChange)

or

"keyboard controls Songbook+" (via Dummy MIDI files linked in the keyboard's Registrations)

>>> Have you also tried the "new" Sy*** method (as described in the Songbook+ manual for Genos and SX models linked in my post above)? It would be nice if this method could also be used with the DGX-670, because after linking the Registrations with the Songbook+ "songs" (initiated from Songbook+) the connection then works automatically in both directions.

Best regards,
Chris

Doyle2468 · September 26, 2021, 09:18:15 PM

The method I am interested in is the:

"keyboard controls Songbook+" (via Dummy MIDI files linked in the keyboard's Registrations)

My setup also used MSB/LSB/PC settings corresponding to the number of the SongBook_xxx.mid file in the registration, just one less. Plus I have to "play" the midi file after selecting the registration.

The SongBook+ manual indicates that more refinements are possible based on file naming conventions.

I did see Sy*** appear in SongBook's the Midi monitor at times. I understand this method is supposed to work in conjunction with just the Code field. I never got this linkage to work. Likewise I didn't see anything as a result of attempting to use the "Learn Midi Command" link.

Glad that I got this much to work.

Convinced myself that I need a larger iPad.

rphillipchuk · March 05, 2023, 12:52:57 PM

Hi Doyle

Have sent you a PM.

Ron

rphillipchuk · March 08, 2023, 10:27:14 PM

I have finally figured out how to use "Songbook+.... I was able to communicate with the iPad and the DGX together...... I can pick a Registration, it will setup the Keyboard and bring up the PDF on the ipad or I can pick the PDF on the iPad and it will bring up the associated Registration.. Happy, Happy Happy

Now if I could only have better chops !!!!!!

rvr64 · March 20, 2023, 02:42:26 PM

Quote from: rphillipchuk on March 08, 2023, 10:27:14 PM
I have finally figured out how to use "Songbook+.... I was able to communicate with the iPad and the DGX together...... I can pick a Registration, it will setup the Keyboard and bring up the PDF on the ipad or I can pick the PDF on the iPad and it will bring up the associated Registration.. Happy, Happy Happy

Now if I could only have better chops !!!!!!

Could you please provide a detailed instruction as to how you set that up on both the iPad a DGX-670... Thanks in advance!

Fred Smith · March 20, 2023, 02:57:04 PM

Quote from: rvr64 on March 20, 2023, 02:42:26 PM
Could you please provide a detailed instruction as to how you set that up on both the iPad a DGX-670... Thanks in advance!

Watch the video. Link in my signature.

Cheers,
Fred

rphillipchuk · March 20, 2023, 05:30:32 PM

Quote from: rvr64 on March 20, 2023, 02:42:26 PM
Could you please provide a detailed instruction as to how you set that up on both the iPad a DGX-670... Thanks in advance!

I got this advice from Baum Software and this opened up the door for me !!!!!

First of all you have to make a "SongBook" song:
Therefore press edit n the right top corner. Then enter you Meta Data, change the title name if desired. Then press save and then "done".
Look at chapter 4.1 in the manual.

After you finished a hand full of songs, then check in you midi settings, whether you selected the Genos mode at all.

Then open one of you SongBook songs and have a look into the ... menu if a song is displayed, whether you could link it to a registration. If not, then you have to check the tyros mode with the three wheels.