Leaving USB Stick in all the time

porterma · January 19, 2021, 01:28:27 PM

Hi
I am wondering if there is any harm in leaving a USB stick into the front USB port of my Genos indefinitely.
Normally I start up my Genos and then insert the USB stick that has files on it that I want to work with that day, and then remove the USB stick before turning the Genos off.
I am wondering if there is any harm in just leaving the USB stick in the slot, turning the Genos off and then having the USB stick still inserted when I go to start it up the next time

I have a project using files from my USB stick that will take several days to complete.

Thanks for the advice.

Mark

overover · January 19, 2021, 02:02:50 PM

Hi Mark,

no problem, you can always leave the USB stick connected to the Genos if necessary, even if the Genos is switched off and on again.

Please note, however, that you only connect one USB stick at a time. If you connect two sticks at the same time, there may be problems with the internally assigned drive letters (USB1 = I:, USB2 = J:⁣), especially when working with Registrations.

Best regards,
Chris

Toril S · January 19, 2021, 02:08:22 PM

Note also that the Genos has a hidden USB port on the underside. There your stick will be perfectly safe from harm. But I must admit I never use it😀

overover · January 19, 2021, 02:24:04 PM

Quote from: Toril S on January 19, 2021, 02:08:22 PM
Note also that the Genos has a hidden USB port on the underside. There your stick will be perfectly safe from harm. But I must admit I never use it😀

Thanks, Toril, for pointing this out!

@porterma
Hi Mark,

IF you have installed a USB stick at the "hidden" USB port on the bottom of the Genos, I recommend that you remove a stick connected to the front USB port before switching on the Genos (or, so as not to forget, remove it before switching off). If both sticks are connected at start-up, the lower stick could be recognized by chance as USB2 (but should be USB1).

Best regards,
Chris

porterma · January 20, 2021, 01:08:12 PM

Thanks Chris and Toril,
I appreciate the help.

Mark

Rick D. · January 20, 2021, 04:43:43 PM

Mark,

I have two USB sticks installed at all times. If you never remove them the numbering never changes. If you remove one when the keyboard is on, and reinstall it, it may switch from 1-2 or 2-1, but everything still works.

Rick D.

Toril S · January 20, 2021, 05:02:30 PM

It really doesn't matter, but maybe in the case of regisrrations there can be problems? Otherwise, all works as usual.

overover · January 20, 2021, 05:40:23 PM

Quote from: Rick D. on January 20, 2021, 04:43:43 PM
Mark,

I have two USB sticks installed at all times. If you never remove them the numbering never changes. If you remove one when the keyboard is on, and reinstall it, it may switch from 1-2 or 2-1, but everything still works.

Rick D.

Hi Rick,

in theory this should work (to leave two USB sticks always connected to the Genos). But IF the FIRST stick (which normally is USB1) should accidentally be found (and mounted) as the SECOND one (this could happen, for example, if many files are stored on it), then you will have problem when using Registrations that uses external files (e.g. Styles) from the USB stick.

To be on the safe side, I recommend to start the Genos with a maximum of ONE USB stick connected (e.g. the one at the bottom of the Genos), but do not insert the second stick until the Genos has fully booted up.

Best regards,
Chris

Rick D. · January 20, 2021, 08:40:37 PM

Chris,

I don't use the one underneath, I just use the one on top and the one in the rear of the keyboard.
I have never had problems with registrations not finding styles and vice versa.

Thanks,

Rick D.

cliffordleo1965 · January 20, 2021, 08:55:06 PM

hi if we keep usb stick attached with keyboard the when we pack it with keyboard cover it will break. if it was little big in size and data will missing. its my experience. i,m using psr s 975 Yamaha keyboard. before i used psr s 950 and many Yamaha models. if we get external storage space inside keyboard. its useful. still its not there till psr s 975.. if we instal more pack. space will be less for storage inside keyboard. we need external storage upgradation specialty. hat ony in tyros and genos. it was costlier. we cant approach it. Yamaha key board always make user to change their keyboard. its the ;last solution. so i,m planning to purchase. SX 900.. then Yamaha co will change another model like sx 1000. it will force us to change the model before studying full.. thats my experience. from beginning.. i used psr510. psr 520, psr 620, psr 630, psr 2000, psr 3000, psr s 950, now finaly psr s 975.. its finally planning to change within a year...
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overover · January 20, 2021, 09:35:35 PM

Quote from: Rick D. on January 20, 2021, 08:40:37 PM
Chris,

I don't use the one underneath, I just use the one on top and the one in the rear of the keyboard.
I have never had problems with registrations not finding styles and vice versa. ...

Hi Rick,

the three USB-to-device terminals (underneath, rear and top) of the Genos are equivalent here. This means that the port at which a USB stick is inserted or recognized first is given the drive letter I: internally and is displayed as USB1. The next inserted or recognized stick gets J :, and if a third stick is inserted / recognized, it is given the letter K: and becomes USB3.

If everything has always worked in your case so far (i.e. the two sticks have always kept their assignment (USB1 and USB2) correctly, if they were both connected when starting up, you are probably very lucky.

As the three USB ports are equivalent, as I said, it can happen that the assignment to USB1/USB2/USB3 changes accidentally for whatever reason if several sticks are connected at start-up.

In the meantime, as far as I know, the Genos firmware has been changed in such a way that in certain cases the actual internal drive letter that a USB stick currently has no longer plays a role, but it is still better if a certain stick (especially in connection with Registrations) always has the same internal drive letter (that is, when creating Registrations and later when using those Registrations).

Best regards,
Chris

Rick D. · January 21, 2021, 04:16:51 AM

Thanks for the info Chris.

Rick D.

DerekA · January 21, 2021, 05:26:37 AM

I keep a USB permanently plugged into the port on the front panel. I have a hub plugged into the back port which has an on/off switch. So if I need to move things to/from the PC I switch on the 'back' USB which is immediately detected, copy the files to/from there, then switch it back off again. This avoids any issues with the wrong drive letter being allocated.

I suppose Yamaha thought it was smart to say 'whichever USB connects first is USB1' but in practice I think it makes it more difficult to use all 3 USB.

Rick D. · January 21, 2021, 05:55:25 AM

DerekA,

That's a good idea, I have never seen a USB stick with an on and off switch. I will check it out.

Thanks,

Rick D.

porterma · January 21, 2021, 06:43:24 PM

Great advice.
Thank you everyone!

alanclare · January 22, 2021, 02:59:58 AM

I use a 4-port usb hub with individual switches. I can use either one port or any combination of two ports.

Afton72 · January 22, 2021, 07:08:39 PM

Same as Alanclare, with my old S900. Only use switches if changing sticks, or more than 2 sticks in hub.
Often leave 2 sticks ON all the time. That leaves USER nearly empty all the time.
A little point, my first switchable hub had lead attached & it pulled out somehow. Then bought a 4 switch hub with seperate short flat lead, lasting OK.

Cheers All, Alan.

Ronbo · January 22, 2021, 07:15:33 PM

Hello everybody,

For what its worth I use a usb extension cable. It stays in the keyboard all the time eliminating the risk of damaging the USB port. This was especially handy when you use the rear port, which is on some models the ONLY port.

Just my two cents worth

regards
and stay safe

Ron

Toril S · January 22, 2021, 07:31:10 PM

I also use an extension cable. Very handy, and much more convenient to switch sticks in the cable socket than on the keyboard.
As for drive letters, I have experienced that they changed even though I din not take out the sticks, so it can happen.

Dick Rector · January 22, 2021, 08:53:25 PM

For years I use an USB-hub with 4 switchable ports. The main USB port no. 1 is always on. The others I switch on or off when I need them. Take them only out the ports when I make a back-up on my computer.

alanclare · January 26, 2021, 07:29:48 AM

I have updated a thread I started some months ago in which I described how I use a 4-Port Hub and a SanDisk Wireless Stick in an arrangement which does not involve plugging and un-plugging USB Sticks to and from my laptop.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,50523.msg394767.html#msg394767

Alan