XGWorks - Genos Instrument Definition?

[ckobu]

I will repeat once again, you can see the installation process in my video. In the description you will find a direct link to download the XGWorks 3.07. There is also a link to insert instrument definitions.

https://youtu.be/qkhny8l_niw

[C-clef]

I will repeat once again, you can see the installation process in my video. In the description you will find a direct link to download the XGWorks 3.07. There is also a link to insert instrument definitions.

https://youtu.be/qkhny8l_niw

Yup, that's fine Casper, for XGworks v3.07, and it's very good, but here we were looking at the later program by Yamaha called SOL2.
Although, agreed, the installation of the software is similar.

And, I've just discovered on my hard drive, three updates for SOL2 if anyone is interested.
The folders are labelled as follows:

SOL Database V2.02 update
SOL Database V2.04 update
SOL V2.09 update

Each contains a "setup.exe" file as well as one, or more, "data.cab" files.
They bring the whole SOL2 program and its functionality up to the last released status. I'm guessing around 2004 or '5.
I've zipped the whole lot together and uploaded it to box.com.
It's far to big to attach, around 14o MB in total.

If you want a copy please PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send you an invitation to the link.
(I'd rather not get hundreds downloading it in an ad hoc manner which would exceed my download limit.)


Regards,
Colin.

[ckobu]

Hi Colin, I didn't read the topic carefully, I thought there was talk of XGWorks all the time.
I use XGWorks very often, I would love to try SOl as well. I sent you my mail. Thank you in advance.

[C-clef]

Hi Colin, I didn't read the topic carefully, I thought there was talk of XGWorks all the time.
I use XGWorks very often, I would love to try SOl as well. I sent you my mail. Thank you in advance.

No problem, Ckobu, I thought that might have occured. (I do it myself too often.) ;-)
I too use XGworks as my main sequencer most of the time. Its functionality is so familiar to me after so many years.
And it's very versatile.

Anyway, ...
I've PM'ed you with the link to SOL2 on the archive site and sent a link to your email address for the SOL update.
Regards,
Colin.

P.S. Anybody thinking of using SOL2, beware, the help files are all in Japanese, as are the manuals.
I've been trying, very slowly and with many interruptions, to convert these .chm files to English using WinCHM Pro.
Some of them appear to be the same as those in SQ01 which are English, so I'll zip those up and make them available too.

P.P.S. Here's a link to the 9 zipped SQ01 help files: https://app.box.com/s/iy1i54l2egpp1p6duk17tf9w3cwm59n2.

[ckobu]

Thank you so much Colin. I downloaded your files and installed SOL2. Everything went well, I inserted your help files and looked at the instructions. I see that SOL2 has a more modern look and more features.
Unfortunately, there is no XG Edit in XGWorks. The latest voice list is with PSR9000 and that makes it difficult for me to work with Genos.
It is a pity that they did not continue the development of this program.

[C-clef]

Hi Ckobu,

Yes, more modern and with more editing facilities.
There IS an XGeditor in SOL (I'm looking at it on my copy) but I think it has to be installed separately.
Let me just check that for you.
Yes ... there's a folder on the 1st disc called "Editor_" which contains a setup.exe file in it.

But you're correct, there are no definitions for instruments created by Yamaha beyond about 2005.

Regards,
Colin.

[ckobu]

Hi Colin,

you are right, you helped me a lot. XG Edit needs to be installed separately. That setup. exe installs a lot more plug-ins.
It's a shame that there is no Voice List for newer keyboards. Is it a complex job to do? With XGWorks I use a PSR S970 and that would be enough.

Regards, ckobu

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[Joe H]

So... is the SOL2 a follow up to... or upgrade of XGWorks? 

I see that all Yamaha plug-in Editors are supported in SOL2.  How about the Instrument Definition files... will the XGWorks instrument files work with SOL2 also?

Joe H

[ckobu]

I don't think the Voice list from XGWorks will work. The structure of the folders within SOL is completely different. I recently tried to upgrade XGWorks 4.0 with instruments from Genos but failed because more files need to be replaced in multiple locations.

In my opinion, SOL is an upgraded XGWorks. What I like most is that you can resize the view using scrool on the mouse and holding down the CTRL, Shift and Alt keys. With the XGW there are only three positions and this makes it very difficult to use.

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[Janus]

I don't think the Voice list from XGWorks will work. The structure of the folders within SOL is completely different. I recently tried to upgrade XGWorks 4.0 with instruments from Genos but failed because more files need to be replaced in multiple locations.

In my opinion, SOL is an upgraded XGWorks. What I like most is that you can resize the view using scrool on the mouse and holding down the CTRL, Shift and Alt keys. With the XGW there are only three positions and this makes it very difficult to use.

The xg editor is the same as in xgworks
You can use the ini files follow the instructions  a few ini's in the xgeditor dir
and a few ini's in the route dir

[ckobu]

Have you tried it or are you just guessing?
I wish it was that simple but I've already tried it and it doesn't work. 

[Joe H]

The xg editor is the same as in xgworks
You can use the ini files follow the instructions  a few ini's in the xgeditor dir
and a few ini's in the route dir

Have you actually tried the newer PSR and Tyros Voice .ini files in the SOL2 - XG Editor directory?  It would be nice if they worked.

Joe H

[ckobu]

I tried but it doesn't work. Changes need to be made in some other places like xgedit.ini. In addition, the structure of installation folders in SOL is completely different than in XGWorks.
Maybe someone who could solve this will come forward.

[Janus]

Did you select in xgeditor the instrument like the tyros 5
There are default ini files in xgedit like for the psr9000
Search in sol where they are hidden
That's the place to copy the ini files
Another optie is to connect xgworks with sol with midi
You have to install a  midi client ,  sol midi out to xgworks midi in,  xgworks midi out to sol midi in

Gr.Jan

[ckobu]

I pasted the VoiceList into the xgedit installation folder but Tyros 5 still doesn't show up in the list of instruments.
Using a MIDI client complicates starting because I use XGWorks most often to process Styles (MixMaster go to XgWorks).
I use Cakewalk which has definitions for Genos and that is enough for me for now.

Regards, ckobu

[Oldden]

Not tried the links on this Yamaha website, I'm on an iPad so no use. In Japanese but google translate converts it to English.

https://jp.yamaha.com/products/music_production/software/ma-162w/downloads.html

Oldden

[C-clef]

Not tried the links on this Yamaha website, I'm on an iPad so no use. In Japanese but google translate converts it to English.

https://jp.yamaha.com/products/music_production/software/ma-162w/downloads.html

Oldden

Yes!

Well done Oldden.

I'd lost the web address, but that's the site, I think, where I downloaded all the updates to SOL2 from sometime in 2018.

Colin.

[Bill Grosse]

The Voice files in XGWorks are text files and are in MSB, PGM, LSB order. This is not standard order and
makes these files pretty much useless in other programs.

BillG

[C-clef]

The Voice files in XGWorks are text files and are in MSB, PGM, LSB order. This is not standard order and
makes these files pretty much useless in other programs.

BillG

Strange you should say that, Bill, every time I've used XGworks, from v2 through v4, (and I use it pretty much every day) it always inserts them MSB, LSB, Pgm, with 5 ticks at 480tpqn between each one.

Colin.

[Joe H]

Strange you should say that, Bill, every time I've used XGworks, from v2 through v4, (and I use it pretty much every day) it always inserts them MSB, LSB, Pgm, with 5 ticks at 480tpqn between each one.

Colin.

I think Bill is referring to how the text files are written and not displayed in XGW.  He should know, he as written/modified many of the Voice files for use with the later model arrangers.

Joe H

[C-clef]

Thanks for the clarification, Joe. ;-)

Colin.