Audio Styles SX

[Aquilauno]

hi Enildo there is a secon link in the post of Telmo ... https://www.mediafire.com/file/1ecdko4hycr6ib7/latin-audio-styles .ppf file
I managed to load them with YEM, but not all of them can be extracted

[overover]

Thanks for your help Telmo, but this pack doesn't have the Batucada style. ...

Hi Enildo,

yes, as mentioned by Aquilauno before, these are two different Packs. Please try the second link "latin-audio-styles.ppf".

This Pack contains the following Styles:

Batucada
BrazilianBossa
CubanChaCha
RumbaFlamenco
SalsaGranCiclon
TangoFlamenco


P.S.
I imported both Packs into the YEM. Then I exported the Styles from YEM using Vali's >> "YEM Content Explorer": The Styles in the first Pack have normal ".aus" extension. The Styles in the second Pack have ".sas" extension. I also looked inside these Styles and found that they are stored encrypted.

I have not tried these Styles on Genos yet. I also don't know if these .sas Styles can be played directly from the USB stick or if they must be installed via YEM. I hope they can be used "normally" on Genos, because of the encrypted file format...


P.P.S
First I tried to extract the Styles of the second Pack using >> "StyleExtractor V1.0.0.5" (developed by "jexino"): With this program, .sas Audio Styles can NOT be extracted from a .ppf file. (.aus Audio Styles and all types of MIDI Styles CAN be extracted with "StyleExtractor from .ppf/.ppi files, of course.)


Best regards,
Chris


Edit: New download link

[Enildo]

I forgot to translate:
Thank you Telmo, Aquilauno and Chris !!! You saved my day.
In my haste I didn't see the second lilnk!
I'll put it in YEM and test it in SX, then I'll bring the feedback if everything went well!

Thanks,
Enildo

[overover]

Obrigado Telmo, Aquilauno e Chris !!! Vocês salvaram meu dia.
Na pressa não vi o segundo lilnk!
Vou colocar no YEM e testar no SX, depois trago ou retorno se tudo sair bem!

Agradecimentos,
Enildo

... translated to English:

Thank you Telmo, Aquilauno and Chris !!! You saved my day.
In my haste I didn't see the second link!
I'll put it on YEM and test it on SX, then I'll bring it back if everything goes well!

Thanks,
Enildo

Hi Enildo,

I forgot to mention: I currently have three Install targets in my YEM: Genos, SX900 and Tyros5. If you cannot import the second Pack, the reason could be that you don't have a Tyros5 Install Target in your YEM.


Best regards,
Chris

[Enildo]

Chris, everything worked !!!
I don't know how to thank you, Chris, Aquilauno and Telmo!
Now I'm much happier, thanks to you!
It is very annoying to try a good thing and then not have it again.

Greetings,
Enildo

[Enildo]

On this issue, from Audio Styles, Banda and Midi Styles, I want to say that in many cases, I alone with my keyboard, modestly, I produce a better job than many bands.
Pino, I think I understood when you asked if you didn't want a band in a box and my answer is yes, that's what I want.
Our keyboards are abulant bands in a box.
Playing in the evenings for more than 20 years, I have already received many compliments comparing myself with bands, and some people were confused, when from a distance, they thought it was a band playing and not a musician with only a keyboard. Our keyboards are a one-man band (to paraphrase a Brazilian auditorium program host)!
The closer my keyboard looks like a band, or an orchestra, or a musician playing an acoustic guitar, or a drum from a samba school, the better for me!

Thanks
Enildo

[hans1966]

Hello Enildo, I totally agree with you. our keyboards of arrangements, are all a band in a box, it is more I dare say that they are a complete portable recording studio. Cheers. Hans

[hans1966]

Hi Telmo, thanks for sharing the Audio styles. Cheers. Hans

[Telmo]

On this issue, from Audio Styles, Banda and Midi Styles, I want to say that in many cases, I alone with my keyboard, modestly, I produce a better job than many bands.
Pino, I think I understood when you asked if you didn't want a band in a box and my answer is yes, that's what I want.
Our keyboards are abulant bands in a box.
Playing in the evenings for more than 20 years, I have already received many compliments comparing myself with bands, and some people were confused, when from a distance, they thought it was a band playing and not a musician with only a keyboard. Our keyboards are a one-man band (to paraphrase a Brazilian auditorium program host)!
The closer my keyboard looks like a band, or an orchestra, or a musician playing an acoustic guitar, or a drum from a samba school, the better for me!

Thanks
Enildo

Enildo, what do you think of this Pack?? Do you think it could make your SX900 sound even better??

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[Enildo]

Enildo, what do you think of this Pack?? Do you think it could make your SX900 sound even better??

Hi Telmo,

Yes, I think it makes a lot of difference for our SXs. I'm planning to buy. SA2 tones are highly praised, I hope they are as good as those of Genos.
On their website the value appears with $ 60.00 USD.

https://mxsounds-store.ecwid.com/Ghenos-SX-Plus-p173697928

Enildo

[Telmo]

Hi Telmo,

Yes, I think it makes a lot of difference for our SXs. I'm planning to buy. SA2 tones are highly praised, I hope they are as good as those of Genos.
On their website the value appears with $ 60.00 USD.

https://mxsounds-store.ecwid.com/Ghenos-SX-Plus-p173697928

Enildo
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No, $60 USD is their regular price. This is a special offer $35 and it looks very good.

[Enildo]

No, $60 USD is their regular price. This is a special offer $35 and it looks very good.

For $ 35 it is very cheap.

[shneurslonim]

You can download all the Audio styles that were in Tyros 5 on the Genos download site. They will work in SX900 but you have to load them into YEM first and load to Keyboard. You can then save them one at a time to a USB stick and then you can remove from Expansion memory on keyboard.

Which website are you referring to?

and I don't see audio styles from the dance section where can I access those?

[EileenL]

They are on the Genos download site and are right down the bottom of the list.

[shneurslonim]

but i'm looking for the dance audio styles specifically

and I cannot find them for free only on music soft for $50

if you can help me find and get these audio styles that work on the sx900

that would be greatly appreciated thank you

I'm looking for all the styles in this pack on music soft

https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/style-files/dance-audio-styles-7#

[Bill]

I'm afraid you will have to pay for them the same as the rest of us. 

Bill

[Joe H]

...
I'm looking for all the styles in this pack on music soft

https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/style-files/dance-audio-styles-7#

If you want them that bad, then you will have to buy them.  It's not appropriate to ask for current software for sale to be given to you for FREE.

Just go and buy it!

Joe H

[EileenL]

You will find many of these styles on the SX900 using the new drum kits.

[DonM]

If you want them that bad, then you will have to buy them.  It's not appropriate to ask for current software for sale to be given to you for FREE.

Just go and buy it!

Joe H

That is very true.  Software developers must make a profit to stay in business.
MAYBE one reason you don't see many new music books for sale anymore is because they are freely shared on this site and many others.  ?    There is no difference that I can see.
This "sharing", aka "stealing", put the famous Tune 1000 company out of business years ago and that was a great loss.
I've always been able to find factory styles that will work just fine for almost anything I need.  I haven't looked at a music book in 25 years and never use midi files, so it is not really relevant to me, but still, that doesn't make it right. 
The digital age has also totally changed the entire music industry.  It is not necessary to buy recorded music anymore; just click on YouTube and there it is.   Then find an illegal program and download it.  Can't say I'm not guilty of that, but to a small degree. 
No answers here, just an old music vet rambling.  Sorry for diverting from the original topic.

[gabrielschuck]

Hi Enildo,

yes, as mentioned by Aquilauno before, these are two different Packs. Please try the second link "latin-audio-styles.ppf".

This Pack contains the following Styles:

Batucada
BrazilianBossa
CubanChaCha
RumbaFlamenco
SalsaGranCiclon
TangoFlamenco


P.S.
I imported both Packs into the YEM. Then I exported the Styles from YEM using Vali's >> "YEM Content Explorer V2.1.1": The Styles in the first Pack have normal ".aus" extension. The Styles in the second Pack have ".sas" extension. I also looked inside these Styles and found that they are stored encrypted.

I have not tried these Styles on Genos yet. I also don't know if these .sas Styles can be played directly from the USB stick or if they must be installed via YEM. I hope they can be used "normally" on Genos, because of the encrypted file format...


P.P.S
First I tried to extract the Styles of the second Pack using >> "StyleExtractor" (developed by "jexino"): With this program, .sas Audio Styles can NOT be extracted from a .ppf file. (.aus Audio Styles and all types of MIDI Styles CAN be extracted with "StyleExtractor from .ppf/.ppi files, of course.)


Best regards,
Chris

Interesting!
I was also really looking forward to this batucada audio style on my tyros5, like in the case of Enildo.
Does it run well on tyros5?
At least the file is in ppf format and I managed to import it into YEM.
Greetings,
Gabriel

[cliffordleo1965]

There might be a reason why Yamaha decided not to continue to build in audio styles in their newest arranger keyboards like the Genos and the SX serie.

Up to now I do not know why this decision has been taken and I wonder if most arranger keyboard players are missing these audio styles.

Babette

Nothing because of space saving yamaha co not added audio styles in sx 900 model and in psr s 975 space for expansion pack 750mb but in that audio styles included but there is no single audio style in sx900.. they made use of space for expansion packs so we can use 1gb maximum
And downloading audio styles and recreation pack in yem and again saving single style to USB that also not easy task only we are having complicated specialities.  If we get CPF format file same problem its protected can't edit or use easily.. we needed help into this problem..

[overover]

Interesting!
I was also really looking forward to this batucada audio style on my tyros5, like in the case of Enildo.
Does it run well on tyros5?
At least the file is in ppf format and I managed to import it into YEM.
Greetings,
Gabriel

Hi Gabriel,

I haven't tested it on so far, but basically all available Yamaha Audio styles should work on the Tyros5. As far as I know, new Audio styles cannot be played directly from the USB stick with the T5, but must first be imported into the YEM and then installed as a Pack on the T5.

It should be noted that the T5 only has 124 MB of Audio style wave memory (in which the wave data of the drum parts of external Audio styles are stored). So you cannot use any number of external Audio styles on the T5 (in contrast to Genos and SX900).


Best regards,
Chris

[gabrielschuck]

Hi Chris and all,
I just took the test now and... Surprise! It works very very well.
I was really excited to be able to have the audio styles on Tyros5, especially the batucada.
Thank you Telmo for making this available! 🤟🏻
The bossanova one is also very good, well swinging, just incredible.
By the way, is Yamaha still selling these audio styles on the musicsoft website? I tried to access the links that were posted and tried a search for audio styles, but no luck.
Greetings,
Gabriel

[Enildo]

Hello everybody!
I apologize for bringing this subject back, but yesterday I was rehearsing, with the keyboard connected to the speakers, making some improvements and updating my registrations, and I decided to listen to the "Audio Styles", installed in the package by YEM, and it's called anyone's attention, the sound quality of Audio Styles.
Honestly, I would very much like Yamaha to make more Audio Styles because they have a much higher quality.
Some people complain that they are not editable (in this case, only the drums are not editable), but I believe that this can be resolved, or whoever wants to edit, can make their own midi drums, or copy from another style by Assembly, etc.
I hope that yamaha will come back to contemplate us with more Audio Styles, in the near future.

Enildo

[DjTony1981]

Yamaha has never invested in music production software, perhaps because it is not very profitable. Suffice it to say that in the past it produced the XGWorks sequencer, which has now been stopped for 20 years, yet it was a valid product especially in the field of expressly XG programming.

[gabrielschuck]

quote author=Enildo link=topic=54872.msg480877#msg480877 date=1652787839]
Hello everybody!
I apologize for bringing this subject back, but yesterday I was rehearsing, with the keyboard connected to the speakers, making some improvements and updating my registrations, and I decided to listen to the "Audio Styles", installed in the package by YEM, and it's called anyone's attention, the sound quality of Audio Styles.
Honestly, I would very much like Yamaha to make more Audio Styles because they have a much higher quality.
Some people complain that they are not editable (in this case, only the drums are not editable), but I believe that this can be resolved, or whoever wants to edit, can make their own midi drums, or copy from another style by Assembly, etc.
I hope that yamaha will come back to contemplate us with more Audio Styles, in the near future.

Enildo
[/quote]
Hello Enildo,
I would also like Yamaha to continue with the audio styles. I honestly didn't really like the revo drums of these new keyboards, they were too much of a "vintage" look.
I also want to remind you that the Ketron Audia is a keyboard that has been around for 12 years and has audio styles, not only the drum part, but also basses, guitars, etc. It really gives the feel of a band playing.
If it were better known and had recognition in the market like Yamaha has, it would certainly start far ahead.
The ketron audia loses in general for the tones, in this yamaha knows how to do it very well. Apart from that, on the operational side, they are more stable.
But with technology evolving as it is, it's time to use audio in styles and not just midi parts.

Now talking about the personal audio styles: It is possible to create our own with Audio Phraser software.
I'm still going to create my own using loops I have here. The only thing I need to find out now is how to get the audio style back already with the midi part made in Style Creator to put in a pack, since in tyros5 it's not possible to save directly to the flash drive.
I believe that if I use the Tyros5's file copy function I can copy from User memory.
Regards,
Gabriel

[DerekA]

Some people complain that they are not editable (in this case, only the drums are not editable), but I believe that this can be resolved, or whoever wants to edit, can make their own midi drums, or copy from another style by Assembly, etc.

But .. in Yamaha audio styles, the *only* part that is recorded audio, as opposed to MIDI, *is* the drum part. So if you replace the drum part with a MIDI part, you don't have an "audio" style any more, you just have a standard MIDI style.

[gabrielschuck]

Yamaha has never invested in music production software, perhaps because it is not very profitable. Suffice it to say that in the past it produced the XGWorks sequencer, which has now been stopped for 20 years, yet it was a valid product especially in the field of expressly XG programming.

Are they really not profitable for a giant brand like Yamaha?
If that's the reason, why did they also take a risk with the "vocaloid" project that also seems to be frozen in time?
Did none of this really pay off?
I hope you're wrong.
Yamaha has partnered with major software companies like Steinberg (owner of Cubase) and also the VST and VSTI plugin platform we use today.

Let's take Reaper as an example, a DAW that for many people ends up being better than other renowned software on the market and sometimes quite expensive.
If it wasn't making a profit, they wouldn't be continuing with it, that is, releasing new versions and implementing new features.
I'm talking about two audio engineers who launched a startup to bring music production software to the market that is as good as any other.
So how do they manage to maintain the software?

Another thing: It's hard for you to have a technology that doesn't depend on or doesn't have the software part built into it.
Regards,
Gabriel

[gabrielschuck]

But .. in Yamaha audio styles, the *only* part that is recorded audio, as opposed to MIDI, *is* the drum part. So if you replace the drum part with a MIDI part, you don't have an "audio" style any more, you just have a standard MIDI style.

Exactly. Actually you can't use Style Assembly for the audio part. You create the midi part of the nude based style, audio style created in Audio Phraser for example.

On tyros5, editing or replacing the midi part of a keyboard audio style, at least in my experience, causes the audio part to no longer play. I believe that because they are in an encrypted format, because that doesn't happen with audio styles created in the audio phraser.
Regards

[Enildo]

But .. in Yamaha audio styles, the *only* part that is recorded audio, as opposed to MIDI, *is* the drum part. So if you replace the drum part with a MIDI part, you don't have an "audio" style any more, you just have a standard MIDI style.

That's exactly what I'm saying. For those who complain that the audio style cannot be edited, it will continue with the good old midi system to record the way you want.