www.genosmagic.com

[charlie]

 Hello to you All.
                      Have you seen what can be done with just the Genos & V-Console.
it is amazing, all the sounds are in Genos.

[Lee Batchelor]

Charlie, you really need to check out a link before posting it. I opened the said link and there is a text box about cookies stuck in the middle of the Home page. There is no way to get rid of it! The site is completely useless.

I have no idea who the moron was who decided we all need to click that annoying "Yes, I accept your cookies" prompt every time we visit a website but they ought to be pushed off the planet!!!!

[Al Ram]

did you check the website before posting it here ?

it is not working . . . . .  nothing happens when you click on it .

thanks

[KeyboardByBiggs]

www.genosmagic.com is working great for me, loving what they have so far!

[Gunnar Jonny]

📝 
genosmagic link redirects to   https://www.tyrosmagic.com/

[frozzers]

Lee

The reason for the cookies notice is linked to the European Union GDPR regulations which came into effect on 25 May 2018.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

It's almost impossible now to access a website for a company based in the EU without getting the cookies notice. More and more US and global companies are following suit.

I tried the link on my iPhone. In portrait mode, I got the notice which I couldn't get past either. Putting the phone into landscape revealed the OK button.

Cheers

Chris

[Gunnar Jonny]

....It's almost impossible now to access a website for a company based in the EU without getting the cookies notice. More and more US and global companies are following suit.

Ghostery and AdBlockPlus keep the websites clean. Both has free versions for most browsers and works like a charm. 👍

[Lee Batchelor]

Thanks for the link, Chris. It still doesn't explain why we have to click that annoying popup notice every time we access a site. It's just another nuisance in computer technology we don't need. If it's so important, just do it! Don't ask me each time I open a website, especially when I have no choice anyway.

[Lee Batchelor]

Charlie, please keep in mind that we aren't ganging up on you or blaming you for the cookies problem . We are actually a very fun and helpful group. You were only interested in sharing a valuable Genos resource, for which we are grateful.

Technically, all cookies are programs that get installed on our systems. I use CCleaner to regularly purge my system of cookies. For me, no one has the right to install anything on my computer without my consent.

[charlie]

Thank you Lee,
                      I had no problems with cookies when I viewed it, some weeks ago
[It had only been out one day].
In Youtube you will find it, hopefully with no problems.
I also purge my computer every week with CCleaner, very good & no cost.


      " V-Console - Genos - The Planets: Jupiter (Holst) - John Beesley"

[muzicman147]

Hi Charlie
Thank you very much for the info, I found this very interesting although a bit expensive at £700.
I will keep an eye on the "V Consel"  in the hope the price drops to a point where I can afford it.
Cheers
Drew

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Nothing special about this site . Forget V console. More than Cubase 10. Rip off
Not impressed with the registrations
You can make registrations just as good yourself.
If i was a Dragon, I would say " Im out"!!"I am not investing in that"

John

[EileenL]

Hello John,
  You have to understand what this programme actually dose before condemning it. I have several friends who love it. You  don't have to buy the tablet if you don't need it John Beasley will supply just the programme.
  If you are into organ settings then this is a programme that will let you use more than one sound on the left and more than three on the right. I believe it comes with a lot of settings ready to use plus of course you can create your own. I would say this is mainly for people who are players that love to just sit and play as we all did in the days of organs. None of this fancy DAW stuff to boost everything and put right mistakes in playing. You just got on with it and enjoyed every minute.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Eileen

I am not condeming V Console. It is the price.
Yes for organ players mainly.
I will stick with Cubase for value and creativity.
I am still practicing every day, but have been quiet of late on the Clubs.
I have been sorting lots of things out and will be back.
Having a nasty viral tummy bug at the moment and feel like a wet rag.
I have not yet got the overblown Corona yet!  I'll stick with Tizer!!

All the Best
john feeling half and half at the moment!!

[Lee Batchelor]

Get yourself well, John. We need you!

I'm enjoying Cubase Artist 8. Finally sorted out a few mysteries surrounding the MIDI implementation between it and the Genos. Yamaha REALLY needs to write a proper set of instructions for DAW integration. Perhaps I'll offer to do it. I am a technical writer and instructor at the college level. In exchange, Yamaha can give me a free Genos II !

Coronavirus...moan...another entity that acts as fodder for an overzealous media. Meanwhile, world economics are tanking. I'd hate to see the damage the media would do had they reported the 1918 influenza!! Now, that was a problem!!!

Apologies to Charlie for drifting off-course from your topic. This happens a lot on these forums

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Lee
Hope you are doing well and family also.
Flaming Corona panickers. World of Snowflakes.
Up 640,000 die each year of common flu worldwide.
Sorry off topic !! small rant over!!

Music, Genos,  music la,la la . Huff n Puff  woooo woo back on track!!
I am on Cubase 10.5 and now have got used to integrating The Genos without any problems now.
It is about practice in using it over and over until it sinks in and getting the sequence of events just right.
I can now use Genos with Cubase just to edit midi and also combine vst when the Focusrite 6i6 is switched on.
Also have learnt how to use the Control room which is a must for comparing your track with a finished favourite master.
You can also get the balance right using LUF's  - 14 db which gives you a perception of -3b in old terms.
The new sound standard and good for Souncloud etc without being sound reduced.
Before mixing in Cubase you learn how to get each of your tracks to roughly -14 to 18 db ,gainstage.
From there go for it to get the balance right before  putting the glitz on the track and finally limiting to get the sound just up to the right final level.
I am not a master at it by a long way , but i am having a go.
In between all of this i have been practicing real time and at some point which i keep telling myself, i have got to start writing and use those Vst's to the max.

All the best Lee

John
There are so many things in Cubase  to learn and i write things down now before i forget them

[Bachus]

Nothing special about this site . Forget V console. More than Cubase 10. Rip off
Not impressed with the registrations
You can make registrations just as good yourself.
If i was a Dragon, I would say " Im out"!!"I am not investing in that"

John

So you have personal experience with V-console?
And you advicing people based on that?

Or is this just your opinion?

Anyway, V-console is not about the extra registartions..
I also don't see why you put it in a relationship with Cubase 10?

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Bachus
I am not having a go at people who want V console, i am just saying it is way overpriced for what it is.
The Genos in my view can do what V-Console does by making your own pads for variations and registrations etc.
You can store as many as you like on the Genos.
The V-console shortcuts some of the work for you, but the Genos has it all .
You just have to use the Genos more and all becomes easier the more you delve.

Al the Best
John

[jwyvern]

Hi John,
You have your own perception of what VConsole does which permits you to say in a dismissive way that Genos can do it all anyway so why spend the money.
But from your comments I don't think you really understand what it is capable of doing at all (across most genres actually, not just for organ). Although Genos ends up producing  the sounds, it is the VConsole software in principle that enables it all in a user friendly way, beyond the standard Genos capability of 1 LH voice plus 3 RH voices plus style, multipads, limited split points, limited velocity control etc. etc. I would not like to even consider achieving it without dedicated software, let alone using  a DAW!   
So presumably the price relates to development and debugging costs (plus tablet if needed) reflecting on a niche market. It is what it is, enabling you to play while directly  in charge of larger arrangements of orchestras or bands without having to build them  layer by layer, maybe using a DAW which I personally find much less musically satisfying.



JohnW

[keyplayer]

Hi John (Ugawoga), what people here are saying about the V-Console are all true - you need to own one to realise its potential and its monetary value. I have had one for over 2 years and I still suddenly get inspirations of another different way I can use it to enhance the layers of sound I create.
The programme is all about the voices you already have in your keyboard. Imagine if you could buy all those voices again and have the flexibility of adding them, up to 8 at a time (10 on Genos) to what you have already set up in your registrations on your keyboard. Not just in terms of Left, R1, R2 and R3 but being able to have them available to play either in layers or spread across the keyboard with split points you can set where you want, in whatever octave you want, and (if you have a twin set-up with or without pedals) on whichever keyboard you want or all of them at the same time. The only limitation really is polyphony.
Editing of the voices and saving them is easier and quicker. Individual registrations and banks work in a similar way as on the keyboard but of course you are only saving voices and their settings in a registration, no styles although you can specify where you want the chord recognition area to be.
It comes with MIDI platforms for single and dual keyboards so players with 2 keyboards can still use the programme just for one keyboard, which I like to do sometimes if I fancy giving the whole twin-set and pedals a rest for a while.
That is it in a nutshell, but in reality it only really scratches the surface, as it has been said you need to own one to appreciate it and decide how you would want to use it.
I was pleasantly surprised that I was able to get the whole MIDI thing working first time when setting it all up from the instructions - there are several cables as you might expect with multiple keyboard involved - and I do admit to having to learn from my mistakes for the first few weeks of using it! For me, wanting to play and not wanting to spend too much time editing, recording etc. but happy to still be 'tweaking' and improving my sounds to my own taste I feel it is well worth what I paid for it.
Hope that helps you understand V-Console John (a bit anyway).
Pam

[Pino]

John W or Keyplayer

I'm really interested in your posts.

Would you care to upload 2 or 3 of your own songs here demonstrating arrangements of orchestras and bands with the advantages of using this software/hardware.

Thank you.

Pino.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
I think it is up to the individual on this topic ,but i will stick with just my Genos.
All the variation is in the beast and more in my opinion.
You just have to unleash it's power.


All the Best
john

[EileenL]

Yes and the best way to do this is to just sit and play it in front of an audience. Nothing more satisfying than this.

[Toril S]

Agreed😀

[keyplayer]

Hi Pino, sorry but as I said I don't do much recording, I've never used the V-Console in the 3 or 4 that I've done and I don't post songs.
I'll try and elaborate but this might turn into a long post! John W did manage to sum it all up in far fewer words than I can.
OK here goes, an example of how I use V-Console in general terms of being able to just sit down and just play:
I love playing big band arrangements of popular old songs so I have a few similar banks of 8 registrations on my Tyros 5, mostly sax ensembles sometimes using harmony, or brass combinations or a mixture of both. Many of them having R1, R2 and R3 all turned on together, a few have solo voice settings too. I use this keyboard for playing the melody mostly, but not all the time.
On my lower keyboard (NP30) I use the voices in the V-Console and have 8 different registrations in a bank each set up with LH piano or guitar for strumming if I'm only using an automatic drum pattern with no accompaniment plus a couple of LH voices to add in like some soft saxes, brass or strings, plus I split this lower keyboard so the top half would have 2 or 3 solo brass/woodwind/guitar/piano/vibraphone etc. voices that I can turn on and play the melody or add one or more voices to the ensemble mix on the top keyboard. I always have one lower registration that is piano with the option of adding strings/vocals so I can quickly switch to playing piano style and add the strings etc as and when I want them. All 8 registration buttons on the V-Console are labelled on the screen so I know what is selected when I switch to it and what other sounds are 'waiting in the wings'.
This all makes for great flexibilty for just sitting down and mixing many different sounds and being able to layer them on and off 'on the fly'. The same can be done with the orchestral voices, you can create a big concert orchestra, panning too.
I use it in other ways too - if you want to create a sequence of registrations for specific song arrangements you can link registrations between the keyboard and V-Console so they both change at the same time, this can be controlled either from the keyboard or V-Console.
I don't wish to try to persuade anybody to buy one, we all do what we want, all I'm saying is this programme provides additional flexibility in terms of how you use all the keyboard voices and I'm a big fan as I'm sure you can tell. 
Pino I hope that makes sense and helps, it might sound more complicated than it really easy.
I would be very interested to hear how others use theirs.
Pam

[Bachus]

Hi Bachus
I am not having a go at people who want V console, i am just saying it is way overpriced for what it is.
The Genos in my view can do what V-Console does by making your own pads for variations and registrations etc.
You can store as many as you like on the Genos.
The V-console shortcuts some of the work for you, but the Genos has it all .
You just have to use the Genos more and all becomes easier the more you delve.

Al the Best
John

Its a small market
Creating software takes a huge amount of time.

I think the price is okay..

You can't expect ipad software prices in a small market like this..

And for people that want a 2 manual Genos, this is the only solution...

[Pino]

Thanks for your reply Pam, sounds like your having fun, I love playing Big Band and Orchestra also and would invest in this hardware if I thought it was money well spent.

Just don't understand why 80% of members here only want to talk about how good their "fishing rods" are and never have we seen the "fish" they catch, I would love to hear some songs recorded on your brilliant set-up.
If I have an exciting new module or found and exciting new sound I would record it and post it here so others can hear. Recording is so easy, one button push.

I know one member who own a Genos + Roland Jupiter 80 + iPad Pro, talks a lot about his gear but never have I heard even one song played on his gear on this forum, why is that, We are musicians first, aren't we? I would love to hear some songs from that set-up.

So, come on guys, there must be someone out there that has recorded some songs using this system.

Anyone 🤔

Pino.

[Bachus]

Hi Pino, sorry but as I said I don't do much recording, I've never used the V-Console in the 3 or 4 that I've done and I don't post songs.
I'll try and elaborate but this might turn into a long post! John W did manage to sum it all up in far fewer words than I can.
OK here goes, an example of how I use V-Console in general terms of being able to just sit down and just play:
I love playing big band arrangements of popular old songs so I have a few similar banks of 8 registrations on my Tyros 5, mostly sax ensembles sometimes using harmony, or brass combinations or a mixture of both. Many of them having R1, R2 and R3 all turned on together, a few have solo voice settings too. I use this keyboard for playing the melody mostly, but not all the time.
On my lower keyboard (NP30) I use the voices in the V-Console and have 8 different registrations in a bank each set up with LH piano or guitar for strumming if I'm only using an automatic drum pattern with no accompaniment plus a couple of LH voices to add in like some soft saxes, brass or strings, plus I split this lower keyboard so the top half would have 2 or 3 solo brass/woodwind/guitar/piano/vibraphone etc. voices that I can turn on and play the melody or add one or more voices to the ensemble mix on the top keyboard. I always have one lower registration that is piano with the option of adding strings/vocals so I can quickly switch to playing piano style and add the strings etc as and when I want them. All 8 registration buttons on the V-Console are labelled on the screen so I know what is selected when I switch to it and what other sounds are 'waiting in the wings'.
This all makes for great flexibilty for just sitting down and mixing many different sounds and being able to layer them on and off 'on the fly'. The same can be done with the orchestral voices, you can create a big concert orchestra, panning too.
I use it in other ways too - if you want to create a sequence of registrations for specific song arrangements you can link registrations between the keyboard and V-Console so they both change at the same time, this can be controlled either from the keyboard or V-Console.
I don't wish to try to persuade anybody to buy one, we all do what we want, all I'm saying is this programme provides additional flexibility in terms of how you use all the keyboard voices and I'm a big fan as I'm sure you can tell. 
Pino I hope that makes sense and helps, it might sound more complicated than it really easy.
I would be very interested to hear how others use theirs.
Pam

Thats a great way of using v-console..

Where have you placed the tablet?
Is it easy to reach?

[keyplayer]

Hi Bachus, I have it in one of those tablet covers which has a cover you can fold back and it slots into the back of itself and props itself up. It also has an elastic retainer at the back so I have attached that with velcro round the foot of the music rest. As you can see it sits securely to the right of the screen, just behind the row of voice effect buttons and just manages to miss the 2 menu buttons. I tried it the other side of the screen but I prefer it where it is now. It's obviously a touch screen and the buttons are big enough to easily take a stab at quickly when I want to change to another registration (one of the 8 buttons along the bottom), or touch one of the voice buttons on or off.
Pam

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[keyplayer]

I don't know why the photo has uploaded upside down?
Pam