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Started by lut112, December 28, 2019, 11:02:37 AM

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lut112

1. Increase font size
2. Enable chord step recording for user styles

Wim NL

Best Regards,
Wim

BenoitM

Add to this:

- Fix the Multiple DSPs issues:
  - Usability issue : allow to easily apply and modify multiple DSP on the same part (the tricks to either: disable or reaffect a DSP to the same part is ridiculous and non-productive)
  - Correctly save the multiple DSPs detailed parameters when saving to a Registration. (currently only the last assigned DSPs keeps its detailed parameters values, the others revert to their default... and, yes, v2.0 increased the number of User Effects slots, but it is not as convenient as a simple Registration save if you want to share your setup)

and I would be really happy :)

Sokratis1974

Quote from: BenoitM on December 28, 2019, 11:55:28 AM
Add to this:

- Fix the Multiple DSPs issues:
  - Usability issue : allow to easily apply and modify multiple DSP on the same part (the tricks to either: disable or reaffect a DSP to the same part is ridiculous and non-productive)
  - Correctly save the multiple DSPs detailed parameters when saving to a Registration. (currently only the last assigned DSPs keeps its detailed parameters values, the others revert to their default... and, yes, v2.0 increased the number of User Effects slots, but it is not as convenient as a simple Registration save if you want to share your setup)

and I would be really happy :)
+1000
Also to be fixed the Audio Phraser to play correct the Fills, Break etc...
It fixed slightly in 1.4 version but not completely...


ckobu

Whenever we open a new preset or user Vocal Harmonizer, the DSP turns off. That is totally illogical. This should be fixed so that the DSP status remains unchanged.

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Bud2

This is not that important but would be nice and surely not difficult, when using the keyboard for typing names etc. It automatically goes to lower case  after typing a capital letter, like all other tablets, notebooks and Korg  do. Thanks.
Bill

Lee Batchelor

Quote from: Bud2 on December 29, 2019, 08:00:51 AM
This is not that important but would be nice and surely not difficult when using the keyboard for typing names etc. It automatically goes to lower case after typing a capital letter, like all other tablets, notebooks, and Korg do. Thanks.
Bill
And put the apostrophe in the main keyboard area - not in the symbols area!!!
Change "Copy here" to Paste" like the rest of the friggin' world!! When they made that stupid blunder, I'm surprised that instead of "Copy," they didn't use "Mimic, Mirror, Duplicate, Echo, Ape, Photostat, or Xerox!!"

Don't forget external registration editing software >:(. Editing several registrations on the Genos takes forever and is like painting Notre Dame Cathedral with a fine-point magic marker.
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

Toril S

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and PSR-47.
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jugge

Quote from: lut112 on December 28, 2019, 11:02:37 AM
1. Increase font size
2. Enable chord step recording for user styles

+1 for user styles in chord step recording.
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Wim

Quote from: Lee Batchelor on December 29, 2019, 08:45:51 AM
.....Change "Copy here" to Paste" like the rest of the friggin' world!!.......
I can understand this by Yamaha. It is commen in German and Dutch too sat :Copy here. for example what you highlighted before.
As Germany is a very Important market for Yamaha maybe by translation to English the person was not aware of the copy and past words used in  countries.
rgds Wim

Lee Batchelor

I suppose that's possible, Wim. Let me ask this - what commands are used with PCs and Macs in Germany?
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KeyboardByBiggs

I'd love it if it didn't matter whether or not you have an audio file or MIDI file loaded into either song player, whether it a MIDI file in A and an audio file in B, or two MIDI files, or two audio files, etc.
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Toril S

I would like the folders to have a different color than the files, and I would like a file managing system that can allow you to open two folders, i.e. one on a drive and one on the keyboard, and then jump between them to transfer files. As it is now, you get thrown back at the root directory of the usb. If you are three subfolders and 18 pages deep in a style collection, and find a gem you like to copy to the keyboard, it takes some time to wind your way back in!
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Wim

Quote from: Lee Batchelor on December 29, 2019, 07:16:37 PM
I suppose that's possible, Wim. Let me ask this - what commands are used with PCs and Macs in Germany?
It is more the spaeking language. There pc are not an German invention so they come with the common habits from the original build country (Maybe this is not good English, But I hope you understand what I mean.) So they pc have to buttons or controls for use Paste and Copy and they made a translation for that. But for sure in the Netherlands and in Germany too I think, not many people talk first copy and than say paste. It;s more You copy this here or there. Or use 2 times the word copy. example. You copy this and than copy it here.  So now you have learned a little German and Dutch habits/
rgds Wim

EileenL

Thanks Wim,
  I have never found this a problem. We expect we have to learn new things with new keyboards and this is good for us. Keeps our brains going.
Eileen

Lee Batchelor

Quote from: Wim on December 30, 2019, 09:25:25 AM
It is more the spaeking language. There pc are not an German invention so they come with the common habits from the original build country (Maybe this is not good English, But I hope you understand what I mean.) So they pc have to buttons or controls for use Paste and Copy and they made a translation for that. But for sure in the Netherlands and in Germany too I think, not many people talk first copy and than say paste. It;s more You copy this here or there. Or use 2 times the word copy. example. You copy this and then copy it here.  So now you have learned a little German and Dutch habits/
rgds Wim
That makes sense, Wim.

I am a technical writer. We must always "globalize" our documents. That means we must design and write them to the standards of the target audience. For example, if I am writing to a British or other former Commonwealth audience, I use the British dictionary for spell checking. Otherwise, I use the U.S. spelling, which is the predominant world standard. You would think that Genos keyboards sold in Canada, U.S., and other similar cultures would have their operating systems globalized. It's not that difficult to change and the number of North American PC and Mac users is enormous!
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

frankmusik

Quote from: Lee Batchelor on December 29, 2019, 08:45:51 AM
And put the apostrophe in the main keyboard area - not in the symbols area!!!
Change "Copy here" to Paste" like the rest of the friggin' world!! When they made that stupid blunder, I'm surprised that instead of "Copy," they didn't use...
I am not 100% with you ....
Yamaha changed not only the text (also for me as german the paste is my favourite )...

I hope Yamaha is goin back to paste multiple usable.

PASTE is the multiple possible thing so you can copy the "in copy" things to several folders ...
copy here  means copy here .. and isn't usable in different folders ... only ONE TIME!


Quote from: lut112 on December 28, 2019, 11:02:37 AM
1. Increase font size
2. Enable chord step recording for user styles
I reported this to japan with pictures serveral times ...

I asked HERE in PSR-Tutorial in July 2019 of editing the 16:9 to 4:3 but almost nobody was disappointed with the loosing of monitor content here in psr-tutorial ... :-)
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,50787.msg397830.html#msg397830

greetings from germany
frank
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Murat


MULTI PAD CONTROL
1.   They currently don't remember the last chord applied and always reverts back to C-Major when played on their own. Let's say you are playing a song in D-Minor and would like to stop the style, play freehand guitar and only start a PAD and continue playing the guitar, although the song is in D-minor the PAD will play C-major – this is not good. The PADs should remember the last chord applied, just like Korg keyboards.
2.   It should be possible to turn on/off PADs individually. On Korg keyboards, you can just select the PADs you want turned on and turn off the ones you don't want without having to stop the whole lot.

DATA WHEEL
1.   The primary job for the wheel needs to be to control the tempo. If a window is open it can then control whatever window is open.

SMOOTH TRANSITION 
1.   Unfortunately, in many situations, the smooth transition does not take place; changing a OTS or a Registration can create a loud ugly sound due to the effects or sounds saved within each OTS or Registration. Would be great if this is fixed.


kbrkr

My List (so far):

* Allow Song Player not to care whether song is a MIDI or MP3 and allow both to play concurrently (for mixing purposes).
* Selecting a playlist entry or registration entry containing a MIDI or MP3, will load a PLAYER A or B which is not running.  Allows for non-stop / interrupted mixing.
* Allow for QUICK Registration SAVE (Press memory twice + #) allows you to save the registration to the current folder without having to go through menus.
* Allow for QUICK Playlist saving of the currently active playlist.  Simply press a button to save it to the current location.
* Allow EQ on MP3 Songs

Lee Batchelor

QuoteAllow for QUICK Registration SAVE (Press memory twice + #) allows you to save the registration to the current folder without having to go through menus.
Great idea!! The Genos is a computer first, with keys and sounds attached. Yamaha needs to start treating it as such - not the other way around :D.
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

Kame

for me the biggest problem is that each sub output sends a signal without dsp.
I would like to have an option if I want to exit before or after dsp.and mono or stereo

soundphase

Quote from: Murat on January 07, 2020, 05:21:12 AM
SMOOTH TRANSITION 
1.   Unfortunately, in many situations, the smooth transition does not take place; changing a OTS or a Registration can create a loud ugly sound due to the effects or sounds saved within each OTS or Registration. Would be great if this is fixed.
I agree as sometimes the result is awful. But resolving this requires either to double the DSP power, or to use DSP reserved for "song" parts.
You can reduce this awful result, by carefully trying to keep the same DSP effects with the same parameter values for the active parts between registrations. It requires to carefully build registrations. Not always possible.

Soundphase

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi
You can get smooth transitions if you keep the next registration volume levels  the same if using the same instrument othewise you are cutting the tail off which causes the glitch.

Al the best
john
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Lee Batchelor

Quote from: ugawoga on January 10, 2020, 04:10:29 AM
Hi
You can get smooth transitions if you keep the next registration volume levels the same if using the same instrument otherwise you are cutting the tail off which causes the glitch.
Al the best
john
John, I don't remember having this issue with any of the Tyros keyboards I owned. What changed? Why Genos, if it's supposed to be so far superior?
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.

Fred Smith

Quote from: Lee Batchelor on January 10, 2020, 09:00:45 AM
John, I don't remember having this issue with any of the Tyros keyboards I owned. What changed? Why Genos, if it's supposed to be so far superior?

If you didn't see the issue of the Tyros, Lee, you weren't paying attention. It's been an issue ever since Yamaha introduced DSPs.

Cheers,
Fred
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Lee Batchelor

Quote from: Fred Smith on January 10, 2020, 09:36:45 AM
If you didn't see the issue of the Tyros, Lee, you weren't paying attention. It's been an issue ever since Yamaha introduced DSPs.

Cheers,
Fred
They only wake me up for the important stuff, Fred :D! Thanks...
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beekay

I always play using the "Registration Bank Edit" screen having entered details of the registrations, i.e. "Piano", "Saxes" etc., and it would be nice if each section lit with each corresponding registration button.   It was like this on the Tyros keyboards.   I appreciate that the registration info is included in the "Registration Bank Information" and is lit and linked to the reg. buttons but each section is only about 8mm wide and there is too much information shown.

Brian

Lee Batchelor

Beekay, you said, "I appreciate that the registration info is included in the "Registration Bank Information" and is lit and linked to the reg. buttons but each section is only about 8mm wide and there is too much information shown."

I'm not sure what you mean. Can you post a screenshot?
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beekay

Hi Lee
Not sure how to post a screenshot but on the "Regist Bank" screen, if you tap on "menu" at the top right hand side, the first item is "Regist Bank Info" and the second item is "Regist Bank Edit"
The Regist Bank Info has all the details of the registration, Left, R1, R2, R3, etc for all 10 regs but the screen is too cluttered.   
Regards
Brian