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Started by patpprice, November 04, 2019, 12:15:25 PM

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patpprice

I am a newbie so please be patient with me.  I have recorded a song on the sequencer, but would like to change the mix (volume levels of particular parts)  Is there a way to do this where it is permanently done in the saved song.  I have made changes and then saved, but they revert back to the original after restarting the keyboard.

Thanks for your help

Pat Price
PSR-S975
Motif XF8

Janus

A keyboard song sets controllers by every variation you make with the style
There are thousends control events in every song
You can't do that by hand
The only way is do this on a computer with sequencer software
It is very easy with filters to remove those events

An other way is to mix the style before in a style editor

patpprice

The Levels of the Style I used are fine.  What I would like to edit is the volume of some of the parts on other tracks that I added on top of the style.  I have the performance right, I would just like to blend the level with the rest of the track.  I recorded the part too hot.

Thanks

Janus

go in those track's remove all volume events
set a volume event at the begin of the track's and save the song

Normanfernandez

Do you want to change the Volume only??
And does this Voice have Multiple Changes in the song?
( Volume)
Norman Fernandez Keyboardplayer
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngm8h5k5NmKnowJpkxlDBQ

PSR S770 - Roland FP 30 - PSR 280
Cubase - Kontakt6

Normanfernandez

To change the Volume for any track.

You can head over to the Song Creator. 
Use the Tab button, and go to the Step Edit.

Make sure that you're on the correct channel.

You can Correct Velocity for Each Note ( it's painful to do this on the keyboard) as well  as  add CC Messages
CC 7 is for Volume
You can have Multiple Changes in the same channel.
And remember to save it.  ( Rename to save the original)
If you haven't got your solution yet.
Let us know.
Regards Norman.
Norman Fernandez Keyboardplayer
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngm8h5k5NmKnowJpkxlDBQ

PSR S770 - Roland FP 30 - PSR 280
Cubase - Kontakt6

overover

Hi Pat,

I recommend to do as follows:

• Load your (MIDI) Song.

• Press [Mixing Console] button as often until "MIXING CONSOLE (SONG)" is displayed on top.

• With [A] button you can switch between the two pages "CH 1 - 8" and "CH 9 - 16". All Style Parts (you recorded before) are on the Channels 9 - 16. CH 9 & 10 are the DRUM Channels. The Keyboard Parts RIGHT 1 - 3 / Left (which you had played yourself during recording) you will find on the Channels 1 - 4.

• In the "VOL./VOICE" tab you can adjust the Part Volumes or select other Voices. (Press the corresponding display button (A - J) for the partivular ROW you want to edit.)


To save the changed MIDI file:

• Press the SONG [STOP] button to move the Song position to the top of the Song. (!)

• Call up the Song Setup display: [FUNCTION] - MENU 2 - SONG CREATOR - TAB SETUP

• Make sure to have ticked the first 7 boxes (VOICE - EQ) at "Setup Group Select" and to have NOT ticked the other 5 boxes below. (!)

• Press "APPLY" (one of the [8] buttons) to write the changes to the MIDI file. (!)

• Press "SAVE" to save a new version of your MIDI file. I recommend to change the file name (for example add a number) to avoid overwriting the original file.


Please refer also to the PSR-S975 Reference Manual, page 104 - 111 (Mixing Console) and page 65 (Song Creator - Setup).


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

patpprice

Thank you so much for all the input.  This looks great and will let you know the results.  It may be a few days before I can get to the keyboard and song.

overover

Thanks for your feedback, Pat!

By the way: All downloads for the S975 are here:

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-s975/downloads.html#product-tabs

I recommend to download the PDF versions of all three User Manuels (Owner's Manual, Reference Manual, Data List). And use the Search function (often Ctrl + F) in your PDF reader program to quickly find all text passages that contain a certain search term.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

DerekA

The 'APPLY' step in Chris' note is the key step that you missed out. Without this, the changes are not 'burned' into the MIDI file even when you save it.
Genos

Janus

Quote from: DerekA on November 04, 2019, 03:52:09 PM
The 'APPLY' step in Chris' note is the key step that you missed out. Without this, the changes are not 'burned' into the MIDI file even when you save it.
That works only for the intro of the song
The rest of the track is full of volume controllers



patpprice

Quote from: patpprice on November 04, 2019, 03:03:22 PM
Thank you so much for all the input.  This looks great and will let you know the results.  It may be a few days before I can get to the keyboard and song.

This was exactly what I needed.  Worked like a charm

panos

Janus,
If I remember well if you make the change to the start of the song (the song doesn't play) as Chris described very well, that change will overwrite any other volume change in the channel.

At least now people won't forget the "execute" command.We have a new candidate: the "Apply" command  ;D