Adding another key to Genos..

[Del 123]

Hi Bachus,

Have you checked out the new YAMAHA CP73 DIGITAL STAGE PIANO which came out earlier this year?

Regards Darren

[Tommy 73]

Compared to the jupiter 80, the jupiter X seems quite limited... only 5 partials in a voice and 16 voice polyphony...   on the jupiter 80 you could have 10x3 partials ..  and 256 voice polyphony.


Personally i think the jupiter 80 has the best possible sound architecture... if it was an arranger, you could layer 4 voices on the left, 4 voices on the right... have a solo voice on the top right end (like the r3 on the Genos) and have a manuall bass, or percussion on the lower left end...

You could not want more then this as an arranger player..

Agreed this why I'm keeping the JP80... just floating some ideas here... I was lucky and found a almost new one S/H.. one of the last sold here in the uk who's owner did not use it... also some of the supper natural voices are showing there age a little compared to the Genos but I'm sure that won't matter... all in all a great synth and would compliment Genos for sure... if you lived in my neck of the woods id say take it home for a week and try it... interesting to see how this unfolds for you.

[Joe H]

... if it was an arranger, you could layer 4 voices on the left, 4 voices on the right... have a solo voice on the top right end (like the r3 on the Genos) and have a manuall bass, or percussion on the lower left end...

You could not want more then this as an arranger player..

You could accomplish that partially with a Motif ES or XS.  Since the Motif Performances can layer multiple Voices on a single channel you could get a real phat sound for R1. I guess you can already do that with the MODX too. Add some analog expansion packs from Easy Sounds to make up the difference for Left and by layering R2 and R3.

Joe H

[jwyvern]

.. if it was an arranger, you could layer 4 voices on the left, 4 voices on the right... have a solo voice on the top right end (like the r3 on the Genos) and have a manuall bass, or percussion on the lower left end...

You could not want more then this as an arranger player..

VConsole gives you that capability too. Plus the ability to double voices up or down an octave where it is musically helpful (and doesn't simply add to the overall "noise"  ).
For some (ensemble) setups it can be sobering to realise how realistic the standard 3x RH plus 1x LH voices can be made to sound.   

John

[Bachus]

You could accomplish that partially with a Motif ES or XS.  Since the Motif Performances can layer multiple Voices on a single channel you could get a real phat sound for R1. I guess you can already do that with the MODX too. Add some analog expansion packs from Easy Sounds to make up the difference for Left and by layering R2 and R3.

Joe H

Sure you can....

But what makes the Roland more suited is how it handles splitpoints..
If you switch a zone off.. another zone takes over that part of the keyboard..
Also a live set (4 stacked voices) can work the same as the genos ensemble voices..

Modx has other strengths, like its arps..
But i kind of dislike the cheap feeling keybed.. of the 6 and the 7..

[Bachus]

First step is taken, put the modx8 up for sale.. (Or trade)

So i made a decision.. i will keep training my piano skills, like walking basses and, piano arrangements..
But not on the hammer action keyboard, but on a semi weight keyboard..
Having one type of keybed might give me better results then continously switching between two types..


Thats why my modx is for sale..Or for trade,

So if anyone wants a modx8 and has one of the following keys, just pm me if you live in Holland or near the dutch border..
-montage 6, modx7, roland jupiter 80, Korg kronos 61(2015), nord stage3 compact, ketron sd9 pro, or a roland inegra 7 or ketron sd90 module
I am sure we can come to a financial agreement..

If interested send me a pm.

[Tommy 73]

https://waldorfmusic.com/en/kyra

[Bachus]

https://waldorfmusic.com/en/kyra

Been following that since last years musikmesse..
Sadly, its not a keyboard

[willem7397]

First step is taken, put the modx8 up for sale.. (Or trade)

So i made a decision.. i will keep training my piano skills, like walking basses and, piano arrangements..
But not on the hammer action keyboard, but on a semi weight keyboard..
Having one type of keybed might give me better results then continously switching between two types..

I think most people who had a few years of piano experience/lessons would prefer a decent piano action over a synth action although I can imagine that for very fast playing a light synth action might give better results. Personally I prefer for piano playing my Kawai ES8 stage piano over my Genos. I feel I have more control over dynamics. And regarding to placement I have them placed next to each other in a corner and connected via midi and analog because Genos has better recording quality.

T.b.h. I don't think the ModX8 has the best piano action. Have you tried better actions e.g. the new hybrid pianos from Kawai or Yamaha and still feel the same about your playing?

[Alfred59]

Bacchus,
I've just bought the Roland Fantom6 as my second keyboard under the Genos. Incredibly engineered with en excellent keyboard feel. I think it will compliment the Genos in many ways. Alfred

[Bachus]

Bacchus,
I've just bought the Roland Fantom6 as my second keyboard under the Genos. Incredibly engineered with en excellent keyboard feel. I think it will compliment the Genos in many ways. Alfred

It definately will

But in general i don't buy keyboards till they are about a year on the market..
For 2 reasons, price, and stabillity..

I am most interesting to see how many updates Roland will give it in the first 12 month.
They promissed huge updates..
IF they add the Super natural acoustic sounds of the Integra 7, as they promissed, i will be interested..

For now, it just seems a lot of piano, and an incredible synth..
And the best hardware sequencer and controller for hardware (MAC) on earth

But the PCM samles mostly come from the XV5080 era..



But for now, it adds great piano and synth sounds to teh Genos, and in both area's its better then the Genos


(SNA is Rolands version of SA sounds)

[Alfred59]

They tell me there  is a big empty space of memory to be filled with updates very soon. In the meantime I'll enjoy the synth sounds etc. I agree about the piano, better than the genos.

[Bachus]

They tell me there  is a big empty space of memory to be filled with updates very soon. In the meantime I'll enjoy the synth sounds etc. I agree about the piano, better than the genos.

Thats what the general conncensus is..
Also confirmed by Ed Diaz..

Time will tell

[Bachus]

After finally selling the modx, i bought a new keyboard to sit on top of the Genos..

- its a few years old
- its a Roland
- its a performance instrument
- its got a huge synth section.

I got myself a Jupiter 80

Picking it up on sunday..
It makes a perfect match with the Yamaha sounds of the Genos..

Tought i would let you know...

[Alfred59]

I've been following your thread and see you've ended up buying a synth like I did to compliment the Genos. Good choice.
Alfred

[Del]

Hi Bachus
What did you not like about the MODEX as I was thinking of adding the modx with my tyros
and congrats on your purchase

[Bachus]

Hi Bachus
What did you not like about the MODEX as I was thinking of adding the modx with my tyros
and congrats on your purchase

The keybed..
It was 88 key..
piano action...  GHS..

Musically and from an operating point of view it is a great instrument
You can not get any better for that kind of money..

[Del]

Thanks for your reply Bachus I was thinking of the MODX7

[Bachus]

Thanks for your reply Bachus I was thinking of the MODX7

If you are used to the psr-s keybeds, thats what to expect..

For the rest you can not go wrong
I really really enjoyed the sound and interface of the modx

[Bachus]

So here a question...

If you have a genos and another 76 key..
Which would you place in the lower position..
And which in the upper position?