Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)

[Sharon]

I apologise if this has already been mentioned, but as a totally blind player of Genos, I would like the voice controls to be completely accessible, not only half way there.  I would like to hear everything that appears on the display spoken out to me, not just some of the things.  This makes the Genos difficult for me to use at the moment.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
I would like to see a 12 inch screen that can pop up and proper score reading which you can import  instead of bouncing balls.

Better DSP management like Joe states and all his other likes

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

The improvements I give priority to :

- more controls... for external instruments
- more assignable functions
- more arps, including an editor, or at least an option to load montage arps
- savable OTS sets
- better access to dsp management
- an expansion pack with synth sounds

BTW... the Easy Sounds Analog Xperience expansion pack has some very good synth sounds, you should check it out.

Hi Joe

If you have a computer invest in Sample robot. Sky is the limit for synth sounds as you can sample any vst.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

I want a 61 note, in silver😀

Toril has acid fingers!!
I like black shiny things!!!!
John likes sparkles!!


All the best
John

[Toril S]

I am really an alian, hence the acid fingers😀😀😀

[CamiloCross]

I don't know if it is already said, but I would like to have more channels for style creation (16 channels will be nice) and more insertion effects dedicated for styles. Now with midi 2.0 I think this could be possible. Creation of custom drums with Round-robin feature (just like Revo drums) is another thing I really wish. Custom art2 voices would be great too.

[DerekA]

and more insertion effects dedicated for styles.

You know that Genos has 8 DSP available for the style - one for each channel? A big improvement from T5 which had 3 DSP for the style.

[Floodie]

I would like the ability to set pitch up and down values independent of each other. Example pitch up 2, pitch down 8..

[Floodie]

Select ALL in Stepedit

[Toril S]

The file system meeds some improvement. I want folders to be highlighted, and better contrasts on the screen would be nice.

[metsasarv]

I just got a new Genos, so I would like to comment on the next following model -
The direct access button sits in the total wrong place on the Genos. Right next to the stop button on the main button bar. I constantly stumble upon it (besides, it's dark in color) and then there's another question mark dialog window as well. It could be next to the window, on the left or right, but not next to the stop button in the main button bar.
    What I liked is that the brightness of the screen and buttons can be somewhat reduced. There is also a screen lock, which, for example, simply darkens the general light background when I playing just the piano. However, the little buttonscreen and six bright white buttons will remain lit. After all, a software change would allow the lights to dimmer less or up to make a complete blackout until the timer or user turns the keyboard off,
  The main screen is very  colorful and bright for my eyes. It might be possible to set it to less bright, black and white if desired. to be more comfortable in a dark room. I using some other menus, like mixer etc,  screen pictures are just little darker.  (What is also good – dark menu – not in my s750.)
Well,  before the keyboard arriving  was I a little scared how I can adapt to the new keybed and the new "Windows", but just a few days after arrival I find that I adapted very quickly and this instrument is the best for me. I especially like these pianos and electric pianos.
  Keybed seems best for me. The following models should definitely be no shorter than 76 keys. However, why not also  a superarranger with 88 keys.
Genos and controller Roli Rise49 are currently working together through a computer. The next Genos model could include better compatibility and interoperability for Roli, why not some pre-configured user programs, etc.
Maybe I'm also a little sorry that I was able to buy Genos just now and not years ago. I had electricity at home all these years :-)

[Togge]

I want them to put the Real Time Parts on their on 16 midi channels and let you choose 16 sounds freely assignable to Upper, Lower, Bass and Solo. So 48 midi channels instead of 32.
There should be some bass sounds specifically suited for bass pedal playing.
A 3 part, Upper, Lower, Bass, modulated Organ with it's own polyphony. At the same level as VB3_II is good enough, with chorus/vibrato, key click etc, and a rotary similar to Ventilator. While they at it they should also modulate pipe organ flute (similar to whats in the Roland Atelier) sound and Wersi sound.
They should decrease the hight somewhat to the keys and make a separate midi keyboard, to sell as addon as lower keyboard, that gives the same distanse (in height) between upper and lower keys as their Electones.
Add the FM from Montage with it's own polyphony.
Change the 128+128 stereo poly to 256 stereo poly.
Add USB audio.
A button to turn of accompaniment just keeping the drums go.

[overover]

... A button to turn of accompaniment just keeping the drums go.

Hi Togge,

you can already do this: Simply toggle the ACMP button off and on again so that only the drums play. When you play the next chord with the left hand, you will have full accompaniment again.


Best regards,
Chris

[markusthegeek]

the following are essential to use the Genos 2 as a real arranger keyboard stand-alone and with option to mix and master audio tracks in a software sequencer

* 24bit USB audio interface at least for stereo, ideally for all 16 stereo song channels; have to add audio interface currently since SPDIF and internal export format are only 16bit
* proper song editor with remove events, copy bars (within a track and between tracks), and delete bars; currently need to select events in step edit mode which is ridiculous since the style editor has some of these features; none of this would break backwards compatibility with older keyboards
* proper master compressor / limiter /gate that can replace external hardware like (see Behringer Composer Pro-XL MDX2600); also ideally a second single channel side chain compressor for bass vs. kick drum
* save drum setups in style editor so that they can re reused in songs; or offer drum setup editor in song mode as well; you can copy the events from style to songs via XGWorks so it is technically doable but way to complicated as a workaround
* use physical play, pause buttons etc. in song edit mode so that you can work in the mixer etc.

[Togge]

Hi Togge,

you can already do this: Simply toggle the ACMP button off and on again so that only the drums play. When you play the next chord with the left hand, you will have full accompaniment again.


Best regards,
Chris

That is not correct. The accompaniment should be off untill it's manually turned on again.
There are complaints on Youtube that Yamaha doesn't have this basic and very important arranger featrure.

[Toril S]

Sync stop and sync start will do that. In fingered mode you can also press 3 adjacant keys to stop.

[ckobu]

That is not correct. The accompaniment should be off untill it's manually turned on again.
There are complaints on Youtube that Yamaha doesn't have this basic and very important arranger featrure.

Those who complain that it doesn't exist know Yamaha badly. And maybe they favor Ketron. 

https://youtu.be/kA5EfF4_7x0

[Togge]

Those who complain that it doesn't exist know Yamaha badly. And maybe they favor Ketron. 

https://youtu.be/kA5EfF4_7x0

[DerekA]

Just a small one.

It is SO annoying that when I open the style creator, it defaults to wanting to record Rhythm 2. I don't know how many times I've accidentally recorded something when I just wanted to listen to the style first.

Yeah I know it's my own fault but it seems silly to default to arming one of the parts for recording. it would be nice if no channels were armed by default.

[EileenL]

It defaults to RHY because this is the only track you can add to without having to delete the original track first.

[DerekA]

It defaults to RHY because this is the only track you can add to without having to delete the original track first.

That's true,  but I object to the assumption (by Yahama) that I am therefore most likely to want to change that part. It's not helpful (to me) to have it pre-armed.

[Oldden]

To be honest, the Genos is a far better keyboard than I will ever be a player. I think it's good enough to last me the rest of my life. I'm 74 years young.😀

[soryt]

After 3 years I hope that this year the successor wil come , with al the improvements I mentioned before.

Please Yamaha surprise us 

Soneg

[Toril S]

To be honest, the Genos is a far better keyboard than I will ever be a player. I think it's good enough to last me the rest of my life. I'm 74 years young.😀

I agree!

[Floodie]

Ability to Quantize Chord Looper.

[EileenL]

Why would you want to quantize Chord Looper as it is the same as playing chords with a style. You would not quantize that would you.

[overover]

Why would you want to quantize Chord Looper as it is the same as playing chords with a style. You would not quantize that would you.

Hi Eileen,

please see also the following thread in this context:
>>> https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,58133.msg450596.html#msg450596


Best regards,
Chris

[EileenL]

If you need a slower tempo to make sure your chords are accurate then select a slower style when recording the chord section in the looper. As you know the chord looper only records the position of you fingers. It dose not record voice style or speed. When you have completed your chord input then select the right style and play away adding your intro's and drum fills as you normally would. 

[Ingar]

I hope for multipad buttons with dual funktion..on and off to each of them.

Ingar

[Toril S]

Agreed!