We need same like Sx 900 Yamaha model without touch screen it will be less cost

[cliffordleo1965]

We need same type model sx900 Yamaha keyboard without touch screen then cost will be lower any middle class user can purchase par s 975 have to modify like sx900 then it,s great thing.. all are used to without touch screen buttons should be like new sx900 model.. all should be plastic one it will give long life. Best one to use.  It's started in particular s 670 models.. waiting for this type new modelled par s sx 900

[Fred Smith]

We need same type model sx900 Yamaha keyboard without touch screen then cost will be lower any middle class user can purchase par s 975 have to modify like sx900 then it,s great thing.. all are used to without touch screen buttons should be like new sx900 model.. all should be plastic one it will give long life. Best one to use.  It's started in particular s 670 models.. waiting for this type new modelled par s sx 900

It won't happen. Yamaha would have to completely rewrite the OS, which would negate any other savings.

Cheers,
Fred

[Robert van Weersch]

We need same type model sx900 Yamaha keyboard without touch screen then cost will be lower

Touch screen interfaces are actually cheaper to implement than dedicated buttons and dials: less wiring, less assembling, less hardware etc. Yamaha uses cheap resistive touchscreens (unfortunately...). The resistive touch-layer on a display that size, literally costs less than $5.
So omitting the touch screen won't result in a cheaper model.

[3dc]

I think he is asking for Yamaha entry level S class arranger-workstation like PSR-S670 successor and he is not alone. 

[valimaties]

I think he is asking for Yamaha entry level S class arranger-workstation like PSR-S670 successor and he is not alone. 

I don't think Yamaha will go back to physical buttons. Mankind must upgrade itself to the new technology. If not, they will be stuck in an old era. It is something normal to happening like this!

[SeaGtGruff]

Mankind must upgrade itself to the new technology. If not, they will be stuck in an old era.

I don't know. The invention of motorcycles didn't make bicycles disappear. The invention of electronic books hasn't made printed books disappear. People still make, sell, and use candles, even though we have electric light bulbs.

[3dc]

I don't know. The invention of motorcycles didn't make bicycles disappear. The invention of electronic books hasn't made printed books disappear. People still make, sell, and use candles, even though we have electric light bulbs.

Also lets not forget minimal accessibility standards for those with visual impairment. I think the issue is more in PSR-S670 successor not in SX parts.   

[voodoo]

I think it's like smart phones. You can still buy big phones with keys without touch. But then you do not get smart features. It will be the same with keyboards.

[stephenm52]

Sometimes I read posts and wonder why as great as the technology is someone or some are never satisfied. Seems to me in the early days when I purchased a Psr3000 musicians were more satisfied.   I have a close friend one of the busiest one man band musicians I know was still using a a PSR 2000 before he retired and booking plenty of jobs.

[EileenL]

I have to agree that you will never please all. If you have a 670 then why not move up to a 975. You will still have all the buttons and a lot more content.

[King Size]

But the keyboards have to be usable. I have now got 40 gigs on an amusement ship. In good weather I have to play outside. I wonder if on the touch screen of the SX 900 in daylight something can be seen. It was impossible with the Genos. That's why I had to buy a PSR 975. The 975 sounds good - but it's not Geno's sound. I am full of expectation that in daylight you can see something on the SX 900 screen.

Greetings
Siggi

[cliffordleo1965]

I,m using psr s 950 it's good one.. after coming new psr s 975. I didn't purchased because in that same old rubber buttons used.. after long time Yamaha announced sx900 model.. it's good one. As I checked vedio.. only cost is so high. So i wrote.. about reducing cost it needed..touch screen is costlier.. so in psr 3000 buttons are plastic and it was good one I used long time..So we need reasonable cost this is my intention... If genos is good not all can purchase it because of cost price.. same case in sx900.... It's my request to Yamaha co....  Clifford Leo dsouza..

[Robert van Weersch]

Wrong subforum and more or less the same you already stated in https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,51106.0/topicseen.htmlNo need to repeat yourself or start a new topic.

[Robert van Weersch]

Like I stated earlier: removing the touch screen will hardly reduce the price of an SX700 or SX900 because a touch-layer literally costs less then $5.

Also, if you want to address Yamaha, then call them or send them a mail. Posting on this forum will not change anything in Yamahas product offering.

[beykock]

Hi Robert :

Any idea why the SX consumer price has been increased by approx. 40% ( or maybe more ) compared to the S-serie ?

I always believed a touch screem is more expensive than the previous S-screens though.

Babette

[Robert van Weersch]

The SX series has an Genos-like engine, not a PSR. It has tons of new features, extra connectors, a bigger screen, an extra voice part etc. That simply costs extra. Yamaha will have its reasons to ask such a hefty price.
But it is not due to the touch screen. I've worked for a smartphone/tablet repair company. The difference in costs between equally specced screens, but one with and one without touch, was less than EUR 4.
The major parts of the costs of a machine, is the R&D. Not just the plastics and electronics. Yamaha will have to get their R&D costs back from the sales.
To post the costs of screens in perpective. I recently bought an aftermarket replacement screen for an iPhone 7. So it has Retina specs, IPS panel, etc, including a repair set to open up your iPhone, for less EUR 35 (consumer price). And such a screen has specs that are a tenfold better than the old-tech SX700/900 screens.

[beykock]

Thank you for your reply, Robert.

Remember Yamaha have decreased the Genos price after a few months.

It looks like the same might happen to the SX-serie, who knows ?

We both have the intention to keep our Tyros5 and
( maybe ) wait for the Genos2 but for others the SX price might be an issue, IMHO.

Cheers, Babette

[Robert van Weersch]

I agree, in my opinion the SX900 is a bit overpriced to be the successor to the S975. If a user does not need the VH2 and sub-out, and can live with a few less styles and voices, the SX700 is the better choice.
And indeed, I have my hopes up for the Genos 2   It'll cost a fortune, but it simply has some features I need, which the S/SX series doesn't have.

[mikf]

Like I stated earlier: removing the touch screen will effectively reduce the price of an SX700 or SX900 because a touch-layer literally costs less then $5.

I think you meant say - will not effectively reduce the price.....
Agree that it is amazing how naive people can be about what drives cost. There is a large development cost initially when changing anything major like adding touch screens  but once that is done its probably more expensive - not cheaper- to go backwards to buttons. Like most other new technologies touch screens were expensive when they first came out, but not any more.  The OP is way off the mark.
Mike

[Robert van Weersch]

Thank, yes, that was a typo 

[EileenL]

I hear people are pre ordering the SX now and are really looking forward to it. Personally think it will sell very well.

[beykock]

Eileen :

Is it your intention to order an SX900 ?

Babette

[Pino]

It looks like the best PSR to date
I will go to the music shop and record 3 songs on the USB recorder
Then I will compare with what recordings I have on my 975
If there is a real difference in the sound then I will go for it.
I have feeling that Yamaha PSR Voices have already reached their peak
Better to sample and make your own voices, I've already started.
Pino

[EileenL]

I am sure there will be an over all improvement in most things. Drum kits being one. Then you have Chord looper and Style reset just to mention a couple. The improvement in the speakers will produce better sound quality I am sure.

[mikf]

Sometimes I read posts and wonder why as great as the technology is someone or some are never satisfied. Seems to me in the early days when I purchased a Psr3000 musicians were more satisfied.  I have a close friend one of the busiest one man band musicians I know was still using a a PSR 2000 before he retired and booking plenty of jobs.

As we well know great instruments will not make the poor player great - but great players will make almost anything sound good.
I am constantly amazed on the forum by the depth of technical knowledge that some have about these keyboards, sound creation, software etc, and their matching wish lists. Doesn't often get reflected in knockout performances though........
Mike 

[EileenL]

Well Mike,
  I have always thought it strange that with all the technical stuff posted here we hear very little in the performers section. It dose not take any longer to post a song than to produce a long post. 

[mikf]

Eileen
I have a strong suspicion that some of the people who post all these technical wishes may not actually play much.... or not very well ....maybe they just like playing around with gadgets.
Mike

[ton37]

Mike, maybe you are just right. It's like a phone: basicly it is enought when you can call with it, but 'thanks' to technology most people wants a smartphone with xxx gatgets. Tmho it is the same with keyboards: call it smart-keyboards with xxx gatgets. People want this and it sells. If all those gatgets will be used is secondairly? Nothing against if people enjoy.... Happy playing with the those gatgets 

[J. Larry]

I've owned a host of PSR keyboards and a couple of Tyros boards.  Never been disappointed.  So, I've done it again; ordered the SX 900, without playing one.  Only what I read on the forums and the few videos posted.  That's good enough for me, since I know the SX will play and sound great.  The come on for me is the touch screen (never had that before), the style reset button for all those tunes with mixed measures, the improved speaker system for low-power gigs without a PA system, and any of the new styles and voices, especially choral stuff.  Don't need anything else to make a decision.  Oh, size and weight are always a factor for this senior player.  All the 61-note boards fit this requirement just fine. 

[SeaGtGruff]

Well, I must confess that I'm one of those people who just enjoys fiddling about making sounds on my keyboards without producing much actual "music."