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PSR-sx900 has been announced

Started by ton37, July 25, 2019, 08:13:32 PM

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EB5AGV

I would say the PSR-X series is to the Genos like the MODX series is to the Montage.

Not everything will be included, as the keybed and perhaps some superarticulation voices, but a large part of it will be and at a lower price.

So kudos for Yamaha and congratulations to Genos owners as this paves the road for software updates for Genos

Jose
Jose Gavila
Yamaha: U3H, DX7, TX81Z, DX11, SY77, TG77, SY85, A3000, AN1x, EX5, EX5R, EX7, MOTIF RACK XS, MONTAGE 6 (B & WH), MODX6+, GENOS

Plus lots other music toys :-)

panos

Quote from: beykock on July 27, 2019, 09:57:09 AM
Plse tell me :

WHAT IS A CHORD LOOPER ? 🎩

Thanks 👍, Babette

Chord sequencer and chord looper is the same thing Babette
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,50912.msg398205.html#msg398205

mikf

Chord looper - You play a series of chords in live play and it keeps playing them for you when you stop. Can be used for several things including solos, improvising etc. useful to allow you use both hands to play the lead lines or solos because lh part is being played for you. Sequencer is the more technical name but the same thing.
Mike

beykock

Thank you, Mike & Panos ! 👍
Chord sequencer sounds more familiar.😏

Babette

Toril S

Hm... My interest is sparked. Not good :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



Toril's PSR Performer Page

EileenL

With loop using chord sequencer just set it up and play something like F Dm Gm7 and C7. These four chords will then play continuously until you stop the loop. Very good for practising.
Eileen

Joe H

Quote from: voodoo on July 27, 2019, 09:51:25 AM
Ok, so far we have

* three Right Parts (R1, R2, R3) instead of two
* revo drums
* chord Looper

So this is a good advancement.

And we still have dedicated Buttons For Voice and style categories. I liked this very much on my S970.

Uli

OK,

Now I'm convinced this the real deal.  I'm disappointed that there are only 2 Live Control knobs though.  But if Yamaha made the Live Control available via a foot pedal that would be very nice. Sounds like the key-bed is an upgrade too!

I also like that there is still a lot of Panel buttons and not just a touch screen.  We get the best of both worlds that way.

The PSR sx900 really is a baby Genos after all (surprise, surprise)

:)

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Joe H

BTW... All those dedicated buttons offers the opportunity for arranger/Cubase Integration.  Thru software, the keyboard could sync to Cubase and assign specific buttons to remotely operate Cubase from the keyboard.  It could also be done via the touch screen... maybe even better with graphic displays on the keyboard screen. 

The thing is that Yamaha released a "style template" for Cubase years ago.  If Steinberg would add a CASM function to Cubase, (Yamaha owns Steinberg) then Cubase could become a better style Creator than we have in our keyboards now.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

voodoo

The chord looper seems to be a pure Software function without dedicated buttons. So we can Hope that it makes its way to the Genos. 
Yamaha Genos
Yamaha MODX7
Yamaha P-125 Digital Piano
Nord Electro 5D

Enildo

Quote from: voodoo on July 28, 2019, 05:32:26 AM
The chord looper seems to be a pure Software function without dedicated buttons. So we can Hope that it makes its way to the Genos.

Hello everybody
I think you're wrong, there are dedicated buttons.

Enildo

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When word fail, Music speaks!

Enildo

Quote from: Toril S on July 27, 2019, 11:34:36 AM
Hm... My interest is sparked. Not good :)

Mine too Toril kkkkkk
I will start saving ($$$) from today!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!

Enildo

I found it strange that the style categories, Ballad and Country, were deleted.
The voices have also been modified, the Organ Flutes category has been deleted and the Plus category must have been incorporated into the others.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!

Pino

Enildo,
all the styles are there mixed in with other categories and many new styles
Same as the S975

Pino

EB5AGV

Quote from: Enildo on July 28, 2019, 06:38:24 AM
Hello everybody
I think you're wrong, there are dedicated buttons.

Enildo

Yes, you are right, but on Genos they could use on-display (virtual) buttons and/or assignable buttons. Not so clean, but for sure better than not having the function available!

Even other option could be using other buttons on a secondary function, even if not shown on the labels... Software could do any way the programmers decide. Let's hope they think it is an interesting function for the flagship arranger. I think they will.

Jose
Jose Gavila
Yamaha: U3H, DX7, TX81Z, DX11, SY77, TG77, SY85, A3000, AN1x, EX5, EX5R, EX7, MOTIF RACK XS, MONTAGE 6 (B & WH), MODX6+, GENOS

Plus lots other music toys :-)

voodoo

Quote from: Enildo on July 28, 2019, 06:38:24 AM
Hello everybody
I think you're wrong, there are dedicated buttons.

Enildo

Oops, I did not see them.... Hopefully it will be available without hardware buttons.

Uli
Yamaha Genos
Yamaha MODX7
Yamaha P-125 Digital Piano
Nord Electro 5D

voodoo

Another new function seems to be "tempo reset" which hopefully sets the beat to the start of the measure. It's on the "tap tempo" button shown on the pic above.
Yamaha Genos
Yamaha MODX7
Yamaha P-125 Digital Piano
Nord Electro 5D

ton37

Judging by these first information, I am enthusiastic about it. There are a lot of big plusses for me.
My advancing insight into my exploration of the Yammies offers more and more guidance on what I expect from a keyboard and what I can / want to do with it. Based on the first information, the SX900 version seems to come very close. This is of course a very personal wish list and certainly does not diminish the choice of others for their keyboard.

I am curious about the missing information on: the polyphony, the price, the usability and readability of the 7 "inch screen, how the keybed feels. But that will soon be clear. I will definitely try this version when he is in the dealers' shop. As it looks now, it's a serious chance that it will be a replacement for my 975?
My best regards,
Ton

Pino

Quote from: ton37 on July 28, 2019, 09:06:13 AM
As it looks now, it's a serious chance that it will be a replacement for my 975?

Your can paint it red or gold and put a touch screen and many other additional fluff but at the end of the day it's down to how it sounds

Yamaha has a history of using the exact same voice sample for years and years right back to the 3000 just adding a little bit more FX

If it sound like the S975 then I'm out.

If it's more like the Genos sound then I'm in.

We wait and see, or, wait and hear.

Pino

dtah80

Good day every one,

Here is a 12 min. video clip from Jeremy See on the PSR-SX900.

[https://youtu.be/O8HZh0MfTZI]

Enjoy,

David
David
Genos, PSR-740, MOXF6

ton37

@Pino, that is certainly an important issue to listen to when I once try 'm out.
My best regards,
Ton

rgw

IMHO all a new PSR model would need is the Genos technology plus good quality speakers and a Genos type keyboard with 61 keys only.

DonM

Regarding the chord sequencer, for some reason Roland didn't put it on their latest arranger, the EA7, even though they have had it on previous models for many years, and pretty much invented it.
Korg has had it for a long time too, but they finally issued an update that lets you save a CS to Songbook.  The new free styles they have released even have Chord Sequences associated with them from the factory, although of course you don't have to use them, and they can be overwritten, as can everything on Korg.
I'm hoping the new Yamaha will allow saving the CS to a memory.
It's a VERY useful function for live play, freeing up the left hand for easy use of the joystick and other functions.

ton37

Quote from: DonM on July 28, 2019, 11:32:15 AM
Regarding the chord sequencer, for some reason Roland didn't put it on their latest arranger, the EA7, even though they have had it on previous models for many years, and pretty much invented it.
Korg has had it for a long time too, but they finally issued an update that lets you save a CS to Songbook.  The new free styles they have released even have Chord Sequences associated with them from the factory, although of course you don't have to use them, and they can be overwritten, as can everything on Korg.
I'm hoping the new Yamaha will allow saving the CS to a memory.
It's a VERY useful function for live play, freeing up the left hand for easy use of the joystick and other functions.
Thank you for your explanation and practical insight. When I had the Genos I had always the feeling that I needed more hands to handle all those buttons and sliders. As you described the CS function, this could be very 'handy' ;-)). Thanks
My best regards,
Ton

beykock

Would it be possible to add a CS to the Genos or impossible due to missing hardware parts and/or connections ?

Same question for BT.

Babette

DonM

Quote from: beykock on July 28, 2019, 12:56:30 PM
Would it be possible to add a CS to the Genos or impossible due to missing hardware parts and/or connections ?

Babette
The Chord Sequencer should be all software, and not hard to do.  However, Yamaha has not been good about giving stuff away when they can charge for it in the next model! 

beykock

If an update would make it possible, I almost believe many Genos owners should be very grateful, Don.💐

Babette

Toril S

I know that Yamaha keeps certain things for their big flagship only, and thats thair policy, and will not be changed. But for me, having no car, dependent of people to drive me and my gear to a gig, it would be VERY handy with a keyboard that really was a mini version of the flagship in that it had scat and choir voices and so on. As for upgrading my 975, I don't think I will do that. I really love it, and have had it only 7 months, with its wonderful buttons and all :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



Toril's PSR Performer Page

beykock

Hi Toril :

You have 2 wonderful pro keyboards !
You have it all.☝

No reason to upgrade. 🎩

Have fun !😁

Babette

Enildo

Quote from: Pino on July 28, 2019, 07:32:49 AM
Enildo,
all the styles are there mixed in with other categories and many new styles
Same as the S975

Pino

Yes I know, but I find the "ballad" category one of the most important on the keyboard.
Maybe you're thinking the old way. I'll wait to put the "bug" in the hands to really evaluate.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!

Enildo

Maybe it's a premature question, but do we have a price tag of about $ 2100 for the sx900?

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!