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Recording Levels on 975

Started by Brian 007, May 01, 2019, 06:55:42 AM

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Brian 007

Hi all,

I do most of recordings to Midi first and then to audio using the onboard recorders on the 975
but unless I reduce the level of the recorded midi song down to around 50% before recording in wave
it does seem to give a very heavily clipped recording ?  anyone else notice this ?

Brian007

Toril S

Hello :) I do the same as you, record in MIDI first, and than make an audio recording on the 975. To avoid clipping I reduce the recording volume to 70 on the keyboard, and afterward I import the recording to Audacity and normalize it. I got this tip from Gary.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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alanclare

May I ask what are the advantages of recording firstly on MIDI and secondly an audio recording? I have never considered this to be an option, having always recorded directly using the usb recorder.

Alan

Brian 007

Hi Toril S,

It's good to know that it's not something I am doing wrong, so thanks for coming back to me with that info.

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Hi Alan,

For me it allows me to tweak the volume levels of individual voices that I have used in my piece, and if necessary change an instrument or modify a DSP to create what I think is the best Mix for the piece,
because I am a home player and all my music is recorded and posted online no live playing for me.

All the best,  Brian007 

alanclare

Thanks Brian. I can now see the advantages, particularly in post-processing the song. Also, I presume, it makes it more straightforward if one wants to add a vocal to the song?

It will be a more relaxed approach in that it's not essential to get the choices of voices, balances, volumes, etc, exactly right at the record stage.

Alan

Toril S

For me it is just a habit. My PSR 2100 had no audio recorder, so this was the way to go.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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alanclare

Toril

I suspect that it wlll become a habit with me as well.

Alan

Toril S

Hello Alan. I also find it more easy to delete the record and start again with the MIDI recorder. No use of the screen.  Just start again.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



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panos

Hi Alan,
with the midi recording we have the exact sheet music as we chose to play it,the chords we used,the exact timing of pressing the style sections,fill ins etc.
I don't usually follow an exact sheet music or midi or sometimes I play differently a part of the song from the original because either it suits me or I like to improvise.

The other reason is if someone got the "usb busy" problem lot's of times while recording with Audio(l have it a lot and must record from the start again).

And the 3rd one is that even if you don't want to correct a note in the midi you maybe want to equalize a little different an part or parts of the midi because when you hear it on your pc it doesn't sound so good.

alanclare

Thank you Panos. I've just completed my first successful recording of a song as a MIDI, followed by playing it and recording it as a WAV file. It's not relevant to this thread, but I then transferred the WAV file to my laptop wirelessly.

I sense that I'm setting out on yet another mind-stretching time as I come to grips with understanding the ins-and-outs of making changes to the MIDI file. You have hinted at one or two here:

"And the 3rd one is that even if you don't want to correct a note in the midi you maybe want to equalize a little different an part or parts of the midi because when you hear it on your pc it doesn't sound so good."

That's part of the attraction of these amazing machines. There always seems to be something new to understand.

Alan