Genos and FCB1010

[elad770]

I just got this amazing midi foot controller brand new condition for 50$!  WOW

The only tiny, small, minute problem is that I can not figure out how to use it. I've tried to watch some youtube videos but they do not explain step by step how to set it up
. There's a member , He's name is voodoo and he seems to enjoy it smoothly without any issues

I'm trying to reach out to anyone who can shed some light on this. Can someone explain to me or refer me to a step by step of how to connect Genos With the Fcb1010

Video will be absolutley amazing!.

[pfeuh]

Hello,

I wrote one... But in French.

https://app.box.com/s/scltvc96q2ridakbpn27g7wls8xjutho

Regards,

Pfeuh

[elad770]

Hello,

I wrote one... But in French.

https://app.box.com/s/scltvc96q2ridakbpn27g7wls8xjutho

Regards,

Pfeuh

Despite the fact that it's in french it's very helpful.

I'm very close to figuring this out. I just ask you to help me with on tiny thing:
On the FCB1010  when I'm trying to modify a preset to trigger for example Vocal Harmony On/off it wants me to enter 3 things: Number, Value 1, Value 2

Can you please tell me what values should I enter ?

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
Pf ueh

One thing gets me about these foot controllers is ---"How do you press those buttons without accidentally pressing others with your big feet"!!!
The application of these look good.

All the Best
John

[pfeuh]

it wants me to enter 3 things: Number, Value 1, Value 2

Sorry to be late!
Number : The number is the number of the controller, (#cc)
Value 1 : The value given by the genos
Value 2 : a 0 (zero)

But as far as I remember, this way doesn't work. The genos is very special regarding all the midi concurrents. To emulate a button, you send the #cc on push and a zero on release of the button. Even doing like that it doesn't work always.

I have used the note mechanism: For each control you can send a midi note, that's the way I've used. Here is the French pdf

https://app.box.com/s/scltvc96q2ridakbpn27g7wls8xjutho

Even if you don't understand the language, there are some tables with cross references for #cc/ notes and so on.

Regards,

Pfeuh

[elad770]

Sorry to be late!
Number : The number is the number of the controller, (#cc)
Value 1 : The value given by the genos
Value 2 : a 0 (zero)

But as far as I remember, this way doesn't work. The genos is very special regarding all the midi concurrents. To emulate a button, you send the #cc on push and a zero on release of the button. Even doing like that it doesn't work always.

I have used the note mechanism: For each control you can send a midi note, that's the way I've used. Here is the French pdf

https://app.box.com/s/scltvc96q2ridakbpn27g7wls8xjutho

Even if you don't understand the language, there are some tables with cross references for #cc/ notes and so on.

Regards,

Pfeuh

Thank you for the info. Would you be kind and watch my video i made and tell me what am i doing wrong?

https://youtu.be/yr6yWLuXD3s

Elad

[pfeuh]

Hello Elad,

I've watched the video. You use the pedalboard to configure itself. You've got a result according to the changing registration. In the pdf, I gave a link to donwload a PC application to configure the pedalboard:

https://mountainutilities.eu/fcb1010

As i'm not familiar with foot programming, I recommand to install this application which has also a great feature: You can share configurations. Here is mine, you can perhaps try to use it as first step.

https://app.box.com/s/qmqswftoteyc63swcg9ss39dlwm84ta8
https://app.box.com/s/6h9nkywk5uw3xx58memca7ztyrkrygs0

Regards,

Pfeuh

[elad770]

Hello Elad,

I've watched the video. You use the pedalboard to configure itself. You've got a result according to the changing registration. In the pdf, I gave a link to download a PC application to configure the pedalboard:

https://mountainutilities.eu/fcb1010

As I'm not familiar with foot programming, I recommend installing this application which has also a great feature: You can share configurations. Here is mine, you can perhaps try to use it as the first step.

https://app.box.com/s/qmqswftoteyc63swcg9ss39dlwm84ta8
https://app.box.com/s/6h9nkywk5uw3xx58memca7ztyrkrygs0

Regards,

Pfeuh

Thank you so much

I ordered Midi to USB cable to connect to the computer, I will then import your file settings and i really hope this will work
If not i will post a screen capture to show you what i did. I hope you will still have patience for me LOL
i TRULY appreciate your help!

Elad

[latingate]

Hello,

I wrote one... But in French.

https://app.box.com/s/scltvc96q2ridakbpn27g7wls8xjutho

Regards,

Pfeuh

Hi,
Is it possible to get this document in WORD format so I can google translate it to English?
Thanks..

[pfeuh]

Hello,

Sorry, I don't use Word, I use open source softwares as more as possible. Here is the original Open Office version of the document:

Document Open Office Original Version

Regards,

Pfeuh

[Pincho Paxton]

I just wanted to ask if anyone has got Reg+ to work on the FCB1010 with the Genos?

The other things work OK.

[tyrosman]

go to midi settings you are looking at the all parts now click on a window and there is a drop down window for you to pick what you wnt the pedal to do once you have this all set you save the midi template as a user and make sure you also save your registations as well

[Pincho Paxton]

go to midi settings you are looking at the all parts now click on a window and there is a drop down window for you to pick what you wnt the pedal to do once you have this all set you save the midi template as a user and make sure you also save your registations as well

Yes thanks! I did all that, everything works except for Reg+.

[overover]

... everything works except for Reg+.

Hi Pincho Paxton,

the assignable function in question is called "Regist Sequence +" (not "Reg +"). So I think you first have to globally activate this function in the Registration Sequence display.

Set both Pedals (+ and -) to OFF in this display to prevent overriding the normal functions of the Pedals connected to the internal Foot Pedal sockets. Then you should be able to control the Registration Sequence +/- functions from your external MIDI contoller (FCB1010).

By the way: As a standard you can simply step up and down the Registrations of each Bank when using the Reg Sequence function. But of course you can program a unique Reg Sequence for each Bank if desired (e.g. "1 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 10"). The programmed Reg Sequence is automatically saved when you (re-)save the Bank file.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris



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[Rick D.]

Elad770,

I have a Yamaha MFC-10 pedal board similar to yours, and Registration sequence is not one of the functions that the pedal board can do.
I got around this by using a Yamaha  FC-5 pedal which can be programmed in the Genos to go thru the Registration Sequence, but only up not down. You can get it to go down in the registration if need be.  If anyone has figured out how to get the MFC-10 to control Registration Sequence, please share.

Thanks,

Rick D.

[tyrosman]

hi Ric Registration sequence does work in the MFC 10 you have to set it

[Rick D.]

tyrosman,

Do you know what the settings are. I couldn't find them when I set up the other buttons.  It's been two years now that I set it up. I will have to refresh myself with the procedure.

Thanks,

Rick D.

[Pincho Paxton]

Still doesn't work... however, it worked one time only, and then stopped again.

I was playing a song, and I kept trying to trigger Reg+ (for short), and nothing was happening, but then I manually changed the sequence to sequence 2, and the pedal started working, and went to sequence 3, and then sequence 4.

Then it stopped again, and I couldn't get it to work again. I repeated everything I did before, but it wouldn't work a second time.

Also, I set a Registry pattern 1,2,3,1,3,4
But the only time the pedal worked it ignored that pattern, and did 2,3,4.

[Pincho Paxton]

Yay! I got it to work.

The new registry sequence has a command called STOP which was activating before I even started. I changed it to TOP (which is really LOOP), and then REG+ worked. And it does the patterns that you choose too.

[tyrosman]

tyrosman,

Do you know what the settings are. I couldn't find them when I set up the other buttons.  It's been two years now that I set it up. I will have to refresh myself with the procedure.

Thanks, hi Ric you have to go through the options

Rick D.

[cynalan]

The only tiny, small, minute problem is that I can not figure out how to use it.

https://media.americanmusical.com/ItemFiles/Manual/behringer/behfcb1010_manual.pdf

[mcbrown]

I received these FCB1010 documents from Behringer many years ago when I asked for support.
Murray

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BEHRINGER FCB1010 Application Guide Sixteen
Accessing a non-sequential preset from another MIDI device
In this example we'll set the FCB1010 to DIRECT SELECT disabled mode, and program preset '5' in Bank '0' to send a MIDI Program Change message to call up preset '30' another device.  You would start by connecting from the MIDI OUT/THRU jack on the FCB1010 to the MIDI IN jack on the other device.
Setting the FCB1010 to work in DIRECT SELECT disabled mode:
(This also covers selection of the MIDI transmit channel)
1.   Reset all presets on the FCB1010 by holding footswitches 1 and 6 while powering up.  The display will show numbers that cycle from '.0.9' to '00'.
2.   Press and hold the DOWN switch during a second power-up to enter the GLOBAL SETUP mode.  The green DIRECT SELECT LED will be lit up.  If footswitch 10 is lit up, press it to turn it off, and the FCB1010 will be set for use in DIRECT SELECT disabled mode.
3.   Press the UP switch to go to the next level, and the green MIDI FUNCTION LED in the GLOBAL CONFIGURATION portion of the display will start to flash.
4.   Press footswitch 1.  The LED for that footswitch will flash and '01' will appear in the display.
5.   Press the UP switch and the green MIDI CHAN LED will light up.
6.   Press footswitches 0 and 1, so that '01' appears in the display.
7.   Press the UP switch again to confirm the chosen MIDI channel.
8.   Press and hold the DOWN switch until '00' appears in the display, and you will have left the GLOBAL SETUP menu.
9.   Set the other MIDI device to respond to MIDI channel 1 if it isn't already.

Selecting an FCB1010 preset and programming it to select a different preset number on the other MIDI device:
1.   Now we'll select the BANK and PRESET number to be used on the FCB1010.  Use the BANK UP and/or DOWN switches to make '00' appear in the display (to select Bank '0').
2.   Press footswitch 5 on the FCB1010 to light up it's LED, and preset '5' will be selected.
3.   Press and hold the DOWN switch for about 2 ½ seconds to enter the PRESET programming mode.  The number in the display will disappear, and the green SWITCH 1/SWITCH 2 LED will flash.
4.   Press the UP switch and the green SELECT LED will light up.
5.   At this point, if the LED on footswitch 1 isn't lit, press and hold the switch for about 1 ½ seconds until it is lit.  We have now selected Program Change Command #1 (shown as PRG CHG 1 on footswitch 1).
6.   Press footswitch 1 briefly and it will start to flash.
7.   Confirm the MIDI function by pressing the UP switch, and the NUMBER LED will light up.
8.   Use the footswitches to make '30' appear in the display (this is the program number you want to access on the other MIDI unit).
9.   Confirm your selection by pressing the UP switch, and the SELECT LED will light up.
10.   Leave the PRESET programming mode by pressing and holding the DOWN switch until a red dot appears in the display, followed by a number. The programming steps are now complete.
11.   Use the BANK UP and/or BANK DOWN  switches to choose bank '0' ('00' will appear in the display, then press footswitch 5 to light it up, and preset '30' on your other MIDI device should be called up.  Don't be alarmed if preset 29 is called up on the other MIDI device, as the FCB110 starts with preset '0' and other units can start with preset 1.  Modify step #8 above if needed.

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FCB1010 Application Guide Twenty Seven
An example of accessing a Control Change number on another device
In most situations, the FCB1010 is used to access specific presets/programs on effect units and other devices, but in this example, FCB1010 preset '1' in Bank '00' will be used to access the User preset bank, by sending a Control Change number of '0' and a Value of '32' as part of the FCB1010 preset.  After this has been done, other FCB1010 presets can call up specific User presets on the effect unit.  Ideally, you will want to program another FCB1010 preset that will allow you to access the 'Internal' or 'Factory (also called 'Internal') preset bank, and there is a step at the end of this procedure to show you how to program and use FCB1010 preset '2' in Bank '00' to do this.
NOTE:
Before beginning any programming on the FCB1010, you will need to set the other device to receive on MIDI channel 1.

Using GLOBAL CONFIGURATION on the FCB1010 to choose DIRECT SELECT disabled mode and to set MIDI function '10' to MIDI channel '1':

1.   Hold the DOWN switch while turning on power to the FCB1010 until the DIRECT SELECT LED is lit.
2.   Press the 10 switch if it's LED is lit up, so that it is unlit.
3.   Press the UP switch to confirm your choice, and the MIDI FUNCTION LED will flash.  The DIRECT SELECT disabled mode is now selected.
4.   Press the 10 switch to make it's LED flash, then press the UP switch, and the MIDI CHAN LED will light up.
5.   Press switches 0 and 1 to make '01' appear in the display. Press the UP switch and the CONFIG LED will light up.  You are still in GLOBAL CONFIGURATION mode.

Using GLOBAL CONFIGURATION mode on the FCB1010 to set MIDI functions 1 through 9 to function on MIDI channel 1 (MIDI function 10 has already been set in an earlier step):

1.   Press the UP switch and the DIRECT SELECT LED will light up.
2.   Press the UP switch to go to the next level, and the MIDI FUNCTION LED will light up.
3.   Press the 1 switch and it's LED will flash.  Press UP to confirm, and the MIDI CHAN LED will light up.
4.   Use the 0 and 1 switches to enter '01' in the display if it isn't there already.  Press UP and the CONFIG LED will light up.
5.   Continue to follow steps 1-4 above to set MIDI functions 2 through 9 to transmit over MIDI channel 1.  To do this, replace the '1 switch' in step three with the '2 switch', then '3 switch' and so on, all the way through 9.
6.   Press and hold the DOWN switch until '00' appears in the display.  You will have left the GLOBAL CONFIGURATION mode, and you can now access and program FCB1010 presets.


Continued on page 2

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Using PRESET CONFIGURATION to choose the preset to be used on the FCB1010 to access the User preset bank on the other device:
1.   Use switch 10/0 to make '00' appear in the display.  Press the 1 switch to light it up.  You've now selected bank '00', preset '1'. 
2.   Press and hold the DOWN switch until the green SWITCH1/SWITCH 2 LED lights up.  Press the UP switch and the green SELECT LED will light up.       
3.   Press and hold switch 6 to light it up.  Press switch 6 again to make it flash.  Press   
      the UP switch to make the green NUMBER LED light up.
Press the 0 switch to make '00' appear in the display, then press the UP switch to      confirm the process.  This will tell the other unit that a will be selected.
4.   Press switches 3 and 2 to make '32' appear in the display, and press UP to confirm the choice (by entering a value of 32 at this point you will have selected the user preset bank) and the green SELECT LED will now be lit.
5.   Press and hold the DOWN switch (a red dot will appear momentarily in the display) to leave the PRESET CONFIGURATION mode.
6.   You can now use the UP and DOWN switches to call up any bank numbered '00' to '09', and any switch numbered 1 through 10 to call up any of the 100 user presets on the effect unit.
7.   At this point it would be best to program an FCB1010 preset to access the Internal preset bank on the effect unit, so that you can have access to those 100 presets when needed.  You can do this by following steps 1 through 6 above, while changing two of the values within those steps.  In step 1, use switch 2 to select preset '2' in bank '00'.  In step 5, press switch 10/0 to make '0' appear in the display.
8.   You have now programmed FCB1010 presets '1' and '2' to switch between the effect unit User and Internal preset banks. This may sound confusing, but you will need to enter in these preset numbers TWICE each time to switch the banks.  For example, lets say you have selected preset '1' in Bank '00' on the FCB1010 and you are selecting User presets on the DSP2024P.  If you want to switch to the Internal preset bank on the DSP2024P you will need to press switch 2 twice (2,2) in essence entering the number '22' before you can make the change.  (Just to clarify why it works this way, here's another example – when you first select FCB1010 preset '1' you are choosing to select the User preset bank on the DSP2024P.  Then it is likely that you will choose an FCB1010 preset other than '1' and this will select a specific User preset on the DSP2024P.  If you now select FCB1010 preset '1' you will get another specific User preset on the DSP2024P.  Select FCB1010 preset '2' and you will first get a specific DSP2024P User preset.  Select FCB1010 preset '2' a second time and it will now choose the Internal preset bank on the DSP2024P.)


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BEHRINGER FCB1010 Application Guide Twenty Nine
Accessing  non-sequential presets from two MIDI devices that are set to receive on MIDI channels 1 and 2:
In this example we'll set the FCB1010 to DIRECT SELECT disabled mode, and program preset '1' in Bank '0' to send a MIDI Program Change message to call up preset '30' a device set to receive on MIDI channel 1, and preset '2' from Bank '00' on the FCB1010 will call up preset '40' from another device set to receive on MIDI channel 2.  You would start by connecting from the MIDI OUT/THRU jack on the FCB1010 to the MIDI IN jack on the MIDI device set to receive on MIDI channel 1, then from it's MIDI OUT jack into the MIDI IN jack on the next unit.
Setting the FCB1010 to work in DIRECT SELECT disabled mode and MIDI transit channel numbers:
1.   Reset all presets on the FCB1010 by holding footswitches 1 and 6 while powering up.  The display will show numbers that cycle from '.0.9' to '00'.  Turn off the power to the FCB1010.
2.   Press and hold the DOWN switch during a second power-up to enter the GLOBAL SETUP mode.  The green DIRECT SELECT LED will be lit up.  If footswitch 10 is lit up, press it to turn it off, and the FCB1010 will be set for use in DIRECT SELECT disabled mode.
3.   Press the UP switch to go to the next level, and the green MIDI FUNCTION LED in the GLOBAL CONFIGURATION portion of the display will start to flash.
4.   Press footswitch 1.  The LED for that footswitch will flash and '01' will appear in the display.
5.   Press the UP switch and the green MIDI CHAN LED will light up.
6.   Press footswitches 0 and 1, so that '01' appears in the display.
7.   Press the UP switch again to confirm the chosen MIDI channel, and the CONFIG LED will light up.
8.   Press UP, and the DIRECT SELECT LED will light up, then press UP again to make the MIDI FUNCTION LED light up.
9.   Press switch 2, and the LED for the switch will flash.
10.   Press UP and the MIDI CHAN LED will light up.
11.   Press the 0 and 2 switches to make '02' appear in the display, and then UP to confirm.
12.   Press and hold the DOWN switch until '00' appears in the display, and you will have left the GLOBAL SETUP menu.
13.   Set the other MIDI devices to respond to MIDI channel 1 and 2 if they aren't already.

Selecting FCB1010 presets and programming them to select preset numbers on the other MIDI devices:
1.   Now we'll select the BANK and PRESET number to be used on the FCB1010.  Use the BANK UP and/or DOWN switches to make '00' appear in the display (to select Bank '0').
2.   Press footswitch 1 on the FCB1010 to light up it's LED, and preset '1' will be selected.
3.   Press and hold the DOWN switch for about 2 ½ seconds to enter the PRESET programming mode.  The number in the display will disappear, and the green SWITCH 1/SWITCH 2 LED will flash.
4.   Press the UP switch and the green SELECT LED will light up.
5.   At this point, if the LED on footswitch 1 isn't lit, press and hold the switch for about 1 ½ seconds until it is lit.  We have now selected Program Change Command #1 (shown as PRG CHG 1 on footswitch 1).
6.   Press footswitch 1 briefly and it will start to flash.
7.   Confirm the MIDI function by pressing the UP switch, and the NUMBER LED will light up.
8.   Use the footswitches to make '30' appear in the display (this is the program number you want to access on the other MIDI unit).
9.   Confirm your selection by pressing the UP switch, and the SELECT LED will light up.

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10.   To leave the PRESET programming mode, press and hold the DOWN switch until a red dot briefly appears, followed by a number.
11.   Now you can create the second FCB1010 preset.  Use the UP and/or DOWN switches to make '00' appear in the display (to select BANK '0').
12.   Press switch 2 on the FCB1010 to light up the LED, then press the DOWN switch for about 2 ½ seconds to enter the PRESET programming mode, and the SWITCH 1/SWITCH 2 LED will flash.
13.   Press UP and the SELECT LED will light up.
14.   If the 2 switch LED isn't lit up, press and hold it until it is lit.
15.   Press the 2 switch briefly to make it flash, the UP to confirm, and the NUMBER LED will light up.
16.   Use switches 4 and 0 to make '40' appear in the display, then press UP, and the SELECT LED will light up.
17.   Leave the PRESET programming mode by pressing and holding the DOWN switch until a red dot appears in the display, followed by a number. The programming steps are now complete.
18.   Use the BANK UP and/or BANK DOWN  switches to choose bank '0' ('00' will appear in the display, then press footswitch 1 to light it up, and preset '30' on the MIDI device set to receive on channel 1 will be called up.  (Don't be alarmed if preset 29 is called up on the other MIDI device, as the FCB110 starts with preset '0' and other units can start with preset 1.  Modify step #8 above if needed).  You can now press switch 2 to access preset '40' on the MIDI device that is set to receive on channel 2.


The FCB1010 can send transmit on up to five MIDI channels, and you can send the messages over one channel at a time, or over all five channels from one preset. For example preset '1' on the FCB1010 could send messages to five other MIDI devices set to receive on five different channels.

FAQ
What are the main MIDI messages that the FCB1010 can send to other devices?
There are three main MIDI message 'types' that the FCB1010 will send to other devices:
- Program changes are often used to call up effect presets or programs. These can also be used to call up a function, as in Tuner ON for an amplifier.
- Control changes are used to call up a specific function, like channel switching on an amp, or to choose between User and Factory preset banks on a processor.  This will often consist of two steps, including a first message to tell the unit that there is a certain type of message coming (like 'Bank Selection'), and then a second message to give a specific value to call up the actual selection (like '01' to call up the User preset bank). 
- Continuous Controllers are accessed to allow use of an Expression pedal for use with a specific parameter, like volume or Wah effect.
An example of the above can be found in a single FCB1010 preset that is created to include a Program Change to call up an effect preset, a Control Change that will switch channels, and continuous controller messages to allow use of the expression pedals to control Wah and volume.



The expression pedals are calibrated and completely checked before they leave our Facility. However it is possible that during transportation or influence of temperature the calibrated values have become misaligned. Here is a way to re-calibrate your expression pedals.

Calibration – Self test FCB1010:

1. Connect a MIDI cable from the MIDI IN to the MIDI OUT/THRU on the FCB1010 (see above).
2. Keep pedal 1 and 3 pressed while switching on the unit, then let go of the switches. The unit is
in self test-mode now, all the LED's will light up one by one, and then the LED's for the switches will all remain lit up.
3. Push all pedals now (one at a time, including the UP and DOWN pedals) until all LED's are off.
4. Wait until relay test is finished. A1 will show up in the display, indicating that the MIDI ports work correctly.
5. Press the down-button once.
6. Adjust the left expression pedal (A) to the lowest value (e.g. your heel all the way down).  Once
adjusted, press UP to confirm. 

NOTE: THE VALUES DISPLAYED DURING THIS PART OF THE PROCEDURE ARE NOT NECESSARILY "LOGICAL" (E.G. THEY DO NOT ALL CORRELATE TO A NUMBER BETWEEN 0-127).  FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AS WRITTEN & DISREGARD ANY "STRANGE" ALPHANUMERIC COMBINATIONS... THIS IS NORMAL FOR THIS PROCEDURE!!!

7. Adjust the left expression pedal (A) to the highest value (e.g. your toe all the way down). Once
adjusted, press UP to confirm.
8. Adjust the right expression pedal (B) to the lowest value (e.g. your heel all the way down). Once
adjusted, press UP to confirm.
9. Adjust the right expression pedal (B) to the highest value (e.g. your toe all the way down). Once
adjusted, press UP to confirm.

The pedals are now calibrated - and there should be a value of 0-127 transmitted from the MIDI output after programming and moving the expression pedal.

[Edgar ribeiro]

HELLO, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO TEACH HOW TO OPEN THIS PRESET IN THE PROGRAM?

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Regards,

Pfeuh
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[henrycar]

Elad770Send me your email and I will send you the word document translated to English.

My email:
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