VARIOUS FILE FORMATS

[MadrasGiaguari]

Dear friends,

after having had many arrangers from Korg, Roland, Technics, a few months ago I purchased a Clavinova CVP 309. Theoretically "second hand", but actually brand new, since its owner had never played his keyboard....

BTW, the more I play it, the more I love it.

I have one question. I purchased from Yamaha Europe web site 6 Styles, after having selected the compatibility option with CVP309. 4 of them had "psr" extension, and work fine. 2 other had "sty" extension, and the keyboard refused to load them.
I also renamed these 2 styles, by changing the sty extension to psr, but did not work.

Is there any way to utilize those styles? Is there a specific limitation to use certain kind of styles on my (old) CVP309?

Thank you,

Angelo, from Roma

[Jørgen]

Hi

Probably the sty files are SFF2 format.

CVP will read SFF1 format only.

Use "Style Format 2 Converter" software at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sf2c/index.htm to convert.

Notice that other extension styles can be SFF2 format too.

Jørgen

[XeeniX]

Hi Angelo,

If you purchased them from Musicsoft I wouldn't even bother to convert to SFF1 since often the converted SFF2 styles will have one or more parts that will sound out of tune after the conversion. Besides you payed for them and used the compability check option. The website is a mess and sometimes shows the wrong styles and packs when using that check. You perhaps are better of mailing Yamaha support about it. That way they usually let you pick alternative styles that will work, for free. It coudl be they will have SFF1 versions and if not you at least end up with 2 new styles that will work. Their response time is usually around two days which is quite nice I think.

hope it helps,

Peter

[MadrasGiaguari]

Dear friends,

thank you for your kind answer.

Yamaha replied in a positive way, by remboursing the amount I had paid.

Lately I purchased from yamaha more styles, paying about 80 Euros.
These styles do work, but their quality (even after many tuning I made) is very poor and not even comparable with the beautifull quality of the styles I found on the CVP 309.

I got much more satisfaction by tuning the existing styles and saving changes in Registration Memories, following the suggestion I found on the wonderful PSRTutorial lessons.

Is there any place I could find styles comparable to the original ones I found on the CVP309?

Thank you

Angelo

[alvinc]

Angelo, it is not easy to get or buy quality styles as good as built-in ones. YAMAHA did its best by using a lot of adjustments and chosing the best and most suitable voices for built-in styles. But I belive the expansion styles they are selling, are not made from CVP309. Thus, the voices used in those styles probably do not match the best voice choice on yours.

[MadrasGiaguari]

Dear Alvin,

your answer helps a lot: I understand that I must work deeper to adjust the voices to the Cvp 309 ones. Nice job to do!

Any other suggestion on this matter will be welcome

Thank you

Angelo

[alvinc]

Also I suggest you to create your own styles by revising the factory styles. Most of the time we don't have to create a style from nothing. Then to save time, you could just choose a built-in style and delete&record the drum or bass channels and that would be much easier.

[DrakeM]

Hi Angelo

I have 532 "SFF1" styles that ought to work in your CVP309 keyboard.


Look at the very bottom of the page using this link:
http://psrtutorial.com/sty/collections/drake.html

I put in a lot of work into getting them all tuned up and sounding really good in my PSR2000 keyboard.

Regards
Drake

[MadrasGiaguari]

Dear Drake,

thank you a lot.

Finally this afternoon (now is 8PM in Roma) I had a chance to go trough the styles you converted for PSR 2000.

As you anticipaterd, they work perfectly on my Clavinova 307!

But, honestly, I already had all of them, as the preset styles. I believe that Yamaha wanted to equipe the 309 (as the top and most expensive of 300 series) with very updated a well tweaked styles.

On my own I made a lot of changes to many preset styles by using the Registration Memories method that I learned on Psr Tutorial, that is perfectly suitable and very simple.
In some case it was enough to make one registration to be used with the 4 variations. In other cases I made 4 registrations positions, each for a variation.

I did not use the style recording method to avoid to saturate the Ram area, considered that with a few tweaking (change of voices, change of volume, mute some voicing, change tempo, ecc.) one can really get a totally different accompaniment. I had experienced the excellent result of this same method with my previous Korg keyboard.

Next, I will try to make more significant changes trough style recording.

Thank you for your advise

[MadrasGiaguari]

BTW, is there any way to find out how much of internal memory is available to save new styles?

Thank you