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Started by Emerson, Mar 30, 2025, 04:23 PM

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Emerson

Hi again, I have recorded a Song in the key of C and then want to make another copy of it in the key of Bb.
Where do I save it permanent in that key. Can not find any solution in Digital Recording or Mixing Console on my PSR 2000.
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Sam Wacker

Quote from: Emerson on Mar 30, 2025, 04:23 PMHi again, I have recorded a Song in the key of C and then want to make another copy of it in the key of Bb.
Where do I save it permanent in that key. Can not find any solution in Digital Recording or Mixing Console on my PSR 2000.

QUICK FIX: Assuming the song is in MIDI format you can use a program like PSRUTIL to change key, then load the new MIDI into your keyboard and save it. For key changes I would recommend adding this to the song title.
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Emerson

Ok, it would have been much easier if it was possible to change direct in the PSR2000 in some way. For instance first  with the Transpose-button and then save it as a new Song or change the key in the same way you can change the tempo for the Song in Sys/Ex in SongCreater.
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Emerson

It seems that PSRUTI doesn't work with MAC iMac so that wasn't any help for me.
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aprilla

Quote from: Emerson on Mar 31, 2025, 06:27 PMOk, it would have been much easier if it was possible to change direct in the PSR2000 in some way. For instance first  with the Transpose-button and then save it as a new Song or change the key in the same way you can change the tempo for the Song in Sys/Ex in SongCreater.

If you have Registrations, I think you do on the PSR2000, transpose it and save it as a registration. It should then play back transposed from the Reg button. Maybe that would suit?
PSR S900 SX720
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mikf

In home keyboard terms, PSR 2000 is pretty ancient. Maybe time to consider an upgrade. More recent keyboards all have ability to record a midi, edit almost anything, including key, then transfer it and save as an audio recording.
Mike
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aprilla

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I'm sure there must be many Mac options for changing the key signature, but I use Windows so am not familiar and can't recommend anything... though I did use Garage Band once. Maybe that would do it, if it still exists? It was a long time ago I used it.

Changing keyboard for this seems a bit drastic. However on my SX720 when I record, on the same screen there is a Transpose option, so it's right there. But once you start changing the + and - buttons there is no option to go back to your original recording and you can't 'see' what key you are now in, you rely on listening and remembering how many + or - you made away from your original key. I admit to finding it a bit confusing and prefer software. For an existing recording I'm not sure how to go about it so I use Anvil Studio for this, it's free and does the job nicely. But I think it's Windows only.
PSR S900 SX720
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Sam Wacker

Quote from: Emerson on Mar 31, 2025, 06:45 PMIt seems that PSRUTI doesn't work with MAC iMac so that wasn't any help for me.
Gosh I can feel your frustration! That'll teach me to second-guess what OS people use.
Here's a link to some free MIDI software that work on a variety of platforms including Mac.

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Unless people have the same keyboard as you do, have solved this problem before and are willing to share, it can be difficult to suggest something other than a work-around  - unless the approach is the same for several Yamaha keyboards of the same era.
Past:Farfisa Combo Compact;Vox Continental Organ; Vox AC30; Reslo Ribbon/Shure SM57
Recent: Yamaha PSR 9000 Pro;Tyros 2; Shure SM58 wired/wireless/Yamaha mic;Allen & Heath PA12;TC Helicon Voice Live;Mackie SRM 450 speakers; Bose QC phones(cable);Stagepas BT600; MFC10
Current: Genos 2; Shure In-ear
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aprilla

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I've just remembered that the midikar group have some new online software that might do this for you. Check out the website (it's old, don't judge it by looks) and see if KaraJam ~ Play4Me will do what you want.

I've not used it but am familiar with the midkar group a long time and trust them.
Because it's a bit confusing to navigate there I've added the direct link LOL

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mikf

Quote from: aprilla on Apr 01, 2025, 08:16 AMChanging keyboard for this seems a bit drastic. 

But there are many reasons to be ugrading this very old keyboard ...it is unsupportable, and still uses a floppy disc for goodness sake. And as a bonus this key change problem would be solved. 
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aprilla

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This article from Yamaha might help

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I'm slow to buy new, I like to get to know what I have and that takes me forever. I would still be using my S900 if its screen hadn't died. And before that a 5700 might still be with me if I hadn't blown it up (transformer accident). I have my fingers well crossed this one lasts
PSR S900 SX720
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