Registrations or Styles ?

[rphillipchuk]

I am still struggling with saving as "Registrations" or saving as "Styles"  ??   This has been discussed before and I am hoping that maybe this time something will make sense to me where I can make a decision that I am comfortable with.

Because I have the DGX-670 but with no dedicated OTS, Registrations would be the logical choice...... But with 3rd Party Developers, there are ways to add/change OTS.

Perhaps I am just a "Senior" who was brought up with Styles and too stubborn to change my ways.

Please advise

Ron

[Fred Smith]

Good grief, why is there any decision to be made.  If your keyboard doesn't support OTS, go with registrations.

Ceres,
Fred

[aprilla]

OTS are just voices saved in a style, very nice, but that's it. Registrations can be that, and a lot more.

I'm a new convert, still learning how to use them, and wishing I'd persevered with Registrations years ago. But like you Ron I stuck with OTS, probably because when OTS was new and shiny it was great to have a nicely set up progression of sounds. With that improvement I never looked past it to realise the added value of Registrations... now I have. I still enjoy nice OTS, but I'm not limited to them.

I don't know the DGX-670 but I'm sure there are plenty of videos about using registrations, watch a lot of them to get as many ideas as possible, then sift through the ideas to identify those that will aid your playing. It should be much easier, more logical, than trying to wangle OTS into a system that doesn't use them.

Persevere with Registrations 👍

[bpsafran]

I am still struggling with saving as "Registrations" or saving as "Styles"  ??   This has been discussed before and I am hoping that maybe this time something will make sense to me where I can make a decision that I am comfortable with.

Because I have the DGX-670 but with no dedicated OTS, Registrations would be the logical choice...... But with 3rd Party Developers, there are ways to add/change OTS.

Perhaps I am just a "Senior" who was brought up with Styles and too stubborn to change my ways.

Please advise

Ron

Based on my experience using Styles in earlier Tyros models and then registrations in Tyros5 and now Genos2, I strongly recommend using registrations which are much more flexible and easier to change than OTS.

[Amwilburn]

It's not really either/ or; registrations use styles (sans OTS) and everything else including tempo, splits, scale tuning, etc etc


Mark

[aprilla]

It's not really either/ or; registrations use styles (sans OTS) and everything else including tempo, splits, scale tuning, etc etc


Mark

I think I was the same as Ron, Mark. I played as a piano or with styles and didn't use registrations. The styles did what I needed (mostly) so I hardly ever looked at registrations, and what you don't know you don't miss. I remember before variations and OTS, so they were a big thing and got the attention. Time was spent with styles, editing, voices... all good stuff too. But now I've looked into registrations a bit more, yeah.... there's a lot there, and without giving up anything but gaining even more. I used to wonder a bit what the fuss was about, now I'm beginning to realise.
The Registration Sequence is great, and with a pedal even better. Linking MultiPads, mixing styles (with and without OTS) , using with the Chord Looper... there are all sorts of configurations to be figured out. It takes a bit to get accustomed to using it, and then to get set up. But I'm hooked, it's worth it.

[Amwilburn]

It's not really either/ or; registrations use styles (sans OTS) and everything else including tempo, splits, scale tuning, etc etc


Mark

I think I was the same as Ron, Mark. I played as a piano or with styles and didn't use registrations. The styles did what I needed (mostly) so I hardly ever looked at registrations, and what you don't know you don't miss. I remember before variations and OTS, so they were a big thing and got the attention. Time was spent with styles, editing, voices... all good stuff too. But now I've looked into registrations a bit more, yeah.... there's a lot there, and without giving up anything but gaining even more. I used to wonder a bit what the fuss was about, now I'm beginning to realise.
The Registration Sequence is great, and with a pedal even better. Linking MultiPads, mixing styles (with and without OTS) , using with the Chord Looper... there are all sorts of configurations to be figured out. It takes a bit to get accustomed to using it, and then to get set up. But I'm hooked, it's worth it.

Precisely! And there's no going back, once you're used to Registrations, it's impossible to imagine performing on an instrument without them!

Mark

[aprilla]

Precisely! And there's no going back, once you're used to Registrations, it's impossible to imagine performing on an instrument without them!

Mark

Any advice on keyboard files File Management, Mark? I was doing OK when registrations weren't involved, no linking to be aware of, but now I know I need to keep a better eye on where things go.
I've read a bit, watched a couple of videos and still made some mess ups already so realise a system is important. Is there a way you like to arrange things? It's just my hobby but I'd still like it to be nicely organised.

[Amwilburn]

I'll say! Keeping them all the root of your usb is ill advised.

2 ways to keep it tidy:

I organize all my orchestral stuff into an orchestral folder, then anything else I need is either organized by song or artist, and anything unmodified you can leave as preset.

OR

put the style in the same folder as your registrations (I assume 1 registration per song). If you have a new version? make sure you save a new copy but also save on top of the original name (so the original name is always the most updated version as well, and the version your registration references)

Mark

[aprilla]

I'll say! Keeping them all the root of your usb is ill advised.

2 ways to keep it tidy:

I organize all my orchestral stuff into an orchestral folder, then anything else I need is either organized by song or artist, and anything unmodified you can leave as preset.

OR

put the style in the same folder as your registrations (I assume 1 registration per song). If you have a new version? make sure you save a new copy but also save on top of the original name (so the original name is always the most updated version as well, and the version your registration references)

Mark

(I assume 1 registration per song)

Yes, 1 reg per piece. The same folder, I think that might work. When you look at the files on the computer screen and they are mixed, it looks a muddle. But when in the keyboard it filters them so you only see what you need to see, but they can find what they need in the same folder.

Thanks Mark, this helps.

[SHQY]

I never use OTS (One Touch Setting); all of my tracks are programmed entirely with Registration Memories. The number of Registration Memories is unlimited, and after completing one set, you can seamlessly jump to the first one in the next set. This is far more flexible than using OTS. I handle all changes in the music by switching Registration Memories, so my hands rarely need to operate panel buttons. For this reason, I use several registration banks for each track (sometimes dozens or even over a hundred memories), and I preconfigure pedal-triggered registration sequences. During performance, I only need to step on the pedal—no need to worry about anything else—just remember where to press the pedal.

Additionally, my file management method is as follows: I create all tracks on a USB drive, with each track having its own dedicated folder. Inside the folder, I store all related files, such as voice files, rhythm files, Pad files, audio Pads, Chord Looper files, Registration Memory files, etc. The advantage of this approach is centralized file management for each track, making it easy to organize and share. Lastly, I add the first Registration Memory from the first bank of each track into the Playlist. This way, when selecting a track on the keyboard, I can directly choose it from the Playlist without needing to navigate the USB directory and search through numerous files.

[Oldden]

I think registrations are the best way to go, but, there seems to be some confusing about using them for many. Loads of videos on YouTube, not all giving the same advice. Do we need one good teaching video or similar that anyone on the group can view if having difficulties.

[aprilla]

I think registrations are the best way to go, but, there seems to be some confusing about using them for many. Loads of videos on YouTube, not all giving the same advice. Do we need one good teaching video or similar that anyone on the group can view if having difficulties.

Perhaps, but there are some good tutorials around for years. Fred, and others, have generously shared loads of them and I have watched them, understood them. I think registrations just didn't seem useful enough (personally) to use them.

Lately, two tutorials, neither specifically about registrations (one tutorial was for the Chord Looper, the other for MultiPads) showed me how registrations could help me when using these other features. The difference being the tutorials weren't for registrations, or just styles, but utilising registrations to manage other keyboard features that I wanted to use. That's what finally cracked their potential for me. And fortunately, having watched the registration tutorials, I was able to use them once I found a use for them. And a pedal for making registration sequence changes has had a big influence too, it suits me not to have to press registration buttons.

I'm definitely a registrations convert now, but if I was still using my previous keyboard I might not be. It didn't have the features that attracted me towards using registrations now.

But because I'm now going to use registrations my files management system is not suitable and I need to figure a new method. One that takes using registrations into account. Mark gave me some good advice, but previous to my asking him I'd looked for some tutorials on that and not found many.