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Started by Whitecolin11, July 12, 2023, 11:46:24 AM

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Whitecolin11

On the tyros 5 dispite using one finger chords the chords play a c bass note on every chord.
The error appears in the midi setting but even after saving the new value once switched off returns to the original.

I have tried a soft reset changed midi setting then saved with no luck

Any ideas ?

EileenL

Check your midi settings They should be set to ALL PARTS.
Eileen

overover

Hi Whitecolin11,

The actual reason for the behavior described (always Bass note C for all chords played in the Style Control range of the keyboard) is that a MIDI template is selected, where one or more channels are selected for input of the Style Bass note via a MIDI pedal in the "BASS" tab. This is e.g. the case with the "MIDI Pedal 2" template. However, if no MIDI note is received on one of these channels specified here, the Bass note C will always be played, as in your case. Also see the attached screenshot.

The easiest way to fix this "problem" is, as already mentioned by Eileen, to set the standard MIDI template "All Parts". Alternatively, you could also use the "KBD & STYLE" template. These two templates only differ in the way the keyboard parts are sent externally via MIDI (which is irrelevant for normal playing).

So go to "Function > MIDI", select "All Parts" or "KBD & STYLE" and press the EXIT button to close the MIDI display. This is the only way to save the selection made in the System Setup, and the set MIDI template is automatically loaded with every restart.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris

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EileenL

Once set to All Parts it will stay there. Be careful when cleaning or dusting th
es keyboard when it is on as it is quite easy to alter settings and not realize it.
  Also little fingers trying things can have the same effect.
Eileen

EileenL

Did you resolve the problem. Its always nice to know.
Eileen

Whitecolin11

sorry Eileen
no when the you turn off the keyboard and turn it back on it goes back to the original setting

EileenL

The original setting for the midi section would have been All Parts. Have you tried a soft reset.
Eileen

Whitecolin11

yes but im going to go back and follow the instructions again.
most time it user error lol
So i will try when i get back home tues and update you
Kind regards Colin

overover

Quote from: Whitecolin11 on July 16, 2023, 03:12:06 AM
yes but im going to go back and follow the instructions again.
most time it user error lol
So i will try when i get back home tues and update you
Kind regards Colin

Hi Colin,

Yes, please read my instructions above carefully again. As I said, it is very important that the MIDI display is explicitly closed so that the selection made is saved in the System Setup, so that the current MIDI template is automatically loaded again after the restart.

To ensure that no setting display is open in the background, I recommend using the "Direct Access > Exit" key combination before restarting.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Whitecolin11

Quote from: overover on July 13, 2023, 04:54:32 AM
Hi Whitecolin11,

The actual reason for the behavior described (always Bass note C for all chords played in the Style Control range of the keyboard) is that a MIDI template is selected, where one or more channels are selected for input of the Style Bass note via a MIDI pedal in the "BASS" tab. This is e.g. the case with the "MIDI Pedal 2" template. However, if no MIDI note is received on one of these channels specified here, the Bass note C will always be played, as in your case. Also see the attached screenshot.

The easiest way to fix this "problem" is, as already mentioned by Eileen, to set the standard MIDI template "All Parts". Alternatively, you could also use the "KBD & STYLE" template. These two templates only differ in the way the keyboard parts are sent externally via MIDI (which is irrelevant for normal playing).

So go to "Function > MIDI", select "All Parts" or "KBD & STYLE" and press the EXIT button to close the MIDI display. This is the only way to save the selection made in the System Setup, and the set MIDI template is automatically loaded with every restart.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris

Thanks Chris will try today however the diagram you put up i cant find on my manual only goes to page 128 how do i access this

regards colin



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overover

Quote from: Whitecolin11 on July 18, 2023, 03:11:16 AM
Thanks Chris will try today however the diagram you put up i cant find on my manual only goes to page 128 how do i access this

regards colin

Hi Colin,

The MIDI Settings are not described in the included Owner's Manual but in the Reference Manual available on the Yamaha website. So please download the Tyros5 Reference Manual (and preferably also the Tyros5 Data List) here:
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/tyros5/downloads.html


Best regards,
Chris

● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Whitecolin11

Thank you to you both your solution worked.
Now i thinking that maybe a registration has a rogue setup and this is what caused the initial problem
regards Colin

overover

Quote from: Whitecolin11 on July 18, 2023, 06:50:13 AM
Thank you to you both your solution worked.
Now i thinking that maybe a registration has a rogue setup and this is what caused the initial problem
regards Colin

Hi Colin,

The MIDI Settings cannot be changed by Registrations (but only manually in the MIDI display). Therefore a Registration cannot be the "problem".


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)