Hello am looking for praise and worship video songs of the Genos

Started by myzone1958, March 08, 2023, 05:40:11 PM

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myzone1958


       Hello ,hope all is doing well . I have not been on this sight for sometime . I would like to ask if anyone has some links to Praise and worship songs played on the Genos. Since the pandemic hit we lost half of our congregation. Choir has been lost and all those who played in the praise and worship group have left since the pandemic. We  have Andrew who is the music director and keyboard player and we have one man and women who sing and one another man who I  can barley hear on the guitar .I have confronted a deacon and explained to him the Genos and how it could benefit in bringing the praise and worship team back to life. I was then ask if I would come to the next deacon and elders meeting to explain the Genos to them and how it would benefit the church. So I am trying to gather all the information and I can along with music video . I have checked on You Tube and just found a few. I need more demos showing the keyboard in action with praise and worship songs. So if anyone could be of help I would gladly appreciate it. Nice to see that this sight is alive an still running

    Thank You !     Greg   
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DrakeM

Hello Greg

It's been awhile for sure, good to see you online again.

These are not on a Genos but on a PSR S-950 and PSR 2000 keyboard. So a Genos keyboard might sound better (maybe).

Rain Down
https://app.box.com/s/gonjzmlha12zt3p6qtspjc0jpd98rdh1

Mary Did You Know
https://app.box.com/s/zut4lr380juvz1f6rfpkgzjff7k3fqv6

You Are Mine
https://app.box.com/s/dpr12un766umbyn09u2jbfzcb3w81g0c

Always Be A Child
https://app.box.com/s/pbrx9x19f1zlk752x1h6kw337bcnpsrf

Watch the Lamb
https://app.box.com/s/bg9hn4fvvbn66k03tbxlg27mzfilshmr



myzone1958

 
             Hey Drake great to hear from you also. I will download these they will come in useful. Watch the Lamb ,never heard that one before that was great ! I need there particular songs   so I can present it to the deacons    https://youtu.be/KBD18rsVJHk       https://youtu.be/6CKCThJB5w0       https://youtu.be/OHBGtDwZY2k         https://youtu.be/XtwIT8JjddM    If anyone can record these on their genos I would really appreciate it.  Thank You !
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Divemaster

Hi Greg
Not sure if the Expansion pack called
Church and Christmas is on your Genos, but if not there are some nice Worship and Gospel styles there for you to use or adapt.
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acparker

How soon do you need them?

I have played 'You Raise Me Up' for a funeral about 6 months ago, so I could probably dust that one off quickly.  I don't know the others off-hand, but provided I can find the music for them, I'm sure I could learn them fairly quickly.

Would .mp3 recordings be ok?  I'm not sure about recording video and definitely not sure about posting to youtube.

I should also mention that I provide the Music Ministry for our small Catholic Church.  I use a Genos for this purpose.  Besides me playing/singing, there are five other ladies in the choir.

I like the Genos because of the flexibility it gives me.  I play from melody line and chords (fakebook style) and use the Genos' features to fill out the music.  I can approximate the sound of a full organ, to full orchestra, or go simple to just a guitar strumming chords.

Adam Parker
(edited for more information)
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

myzone1958


   Hello Ac Parker, Thanks you for the quick response. I think the church board meeting would probably  be a week or 2 away ,they have not set a date as of yet when they would like me to present my thoughts on Genos as being apart of the church music. As far as Video that would have to be done on You Tube but you would need a camera for that but if you don't care to figure that out the MP3 would work just fine. If you go over listening to the videos links I sent if you could try to use the same drums or what ever other instruments are being used and try to work that into the Genos to duplicate the songs .I would really be anxious to hear the results on your Genos. As stated before since the covid hit half the church members never returned and they lost the choir and members of the praise the worship team. So at the meeting I would like to present some demos for the board to hear so they can get an idea what I am talking about because believe it or not most churches don't use the genos because I think they nothing about all this new Technology. If it does come to pass the I am able to convince them that the Genos is the way to go it will be recorded because our church records their services so I would be able to share this will the forum here. Andrew is out music director and plays the keyboard very well and is well capable of playing the genos . I am going to tell them at the board meeting that if they are hoping a 4 piece band is going to walk through those church doors I highly doubt that so this is why I think Genos would take over very quickly. And when it comes to solos the Genos would be great !  So it saying off of this yes go right ahead and see what you can do for us . Keep me posted  thank you much !   
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DrakeM

Quote from: acparker on March 09, 2023, 06:49:34 AM
I should also mention that I provide the Music Ministry for our small Catholic Church.  I use a Genos for this purpose.  Besides me playing/singing, there are five other ladies in the choir.

I like the Genos because of the flexibility it gives me.  I play from melody line and chords (fakebook style) and use the Genos' features to fill out the music.  I can approximate the sound of a full organ, to full orchestra, or go simple to just a guitar strumming chords.

Adam Parker

Adam

My parish priest told me, only live musicians are aloud in the church choir. He in fact kicked out the entire Guitar Choir out from our Saturday mass.
Where abouts do you live that it is so different?

Drake

Oymmot


Hey all
To think a Genos would bring people back to the congregation is wishful thinking that has no reality.
Sorry but I couldn't resist commenting.
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Christophermoment

Quote from: Oymmot on March 09, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
Hey all
To think a Genos would bring people back to the congregation is wishful thinking that has no reality.
Sorry but I couldn't resist commenting.
Tommy

What a stupid comment that does not do anything to help the request.

Sorry but I couldn't resist commenting.
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myzone1958

   
        Oymmot  there has been a shift in the churches in the last 15 years not all but some and in order to get the attention of the younger generation praise and Worship is where it's going. The younger generation will eventually have to take over this church or the older generation will die with the church and it will end.  Will it draw them in that does remain to be seen but something is better then nothing and for those who are there an remain I feel the Genos would be uplifting to the congregation that is there. We also sing traditional songs also which I grew up with. So they try to take the middle ground to capture both generations. The genos is an incredible keyboard which is well balanced and fits into the smallest space. I was joking with one of the deacons and said they need to take that knuckle busting piano and take it outside and roll it down the hill . HA HA !!!  If they do decide to go with the genos the church is going to be in for a big surprise if they hear it live. Some of the churches around me have live musicians but to be trueful I think the genos can out perform them. The church bands have no dynamics and dramatic feel to it. Genos is like an entire orchestra ,Big Band and the list goes on. It is one incredible  instrument I must say. Andrew the music director thought the Genos was a lot of money. Well that depends if you divide the cost among all the congregation really if you break it down it's not a lot of money . For a single person to buy yes it is a lot of money but that also depends on a persons income and  what they can afford. The music director at church would be very foolish if he rejects using it. Hopefully I will be able to convince them to Purchase in the very near future .       
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acparker

Ok, I will undertake two of them, since only have music for those two in my archive.  They are "You Raise Me Up" and "How Great Is Our God".

I will do my best to orchestrate them similar to the videos, but they won't be one-to-one.  Send me a private message when you have a time frame.  As you know, it's coming up to Easter, and with the extra Masses, I've got a lot to work on,  but I shall do my best.

Adam Parker

Drake:  I sent you a Private Message in response to your inquiry.
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

stewedkin

Hi Greg,  I have the Genos and MODX 7.  I am the only musician in our Anglican church apart from a lady who plays the organ and piano for traditional hymns and songs every other week. So I record a backing track (e.g. 10,000 reasons - Bless the Lord O my soul)  on the Genos and save it to a flash stick then play the backing through the MODX and play Piano over the top live in the service and lead the worship by singing and playing.  The congregation seem to love it and a large number of them would prefer this to the traditional organ/piano. Hope this helps?  regards, Stew


pjd

I can relate to many of the comments and experiences expressed here. I play MODX in church along with a pianist on acoustic piano and an acoustic guitar. (We all go through the PA.) Our repertoire consists of contemporary and sometimes traditional hymns.

During the pandemic, I recorded some demos with Genos: http://sandsoftwaresound.net/what-did-you-do-in-self-isolation/

I had to do something to keep skills up because our parish had shut down and went video-only. Only piano and cantor were allowed and I was sitting on my hands. (Like everybody else.)

Several of the tunes use Genos preset styles. Honestly, it was a matter of finding ballad, pop, whatever style that fit the tune. It's a chance to be creative as a (human) arranger.  :)  The demo page has a few notes about process, styles, and so forth.

Hope this helps a little bit -- pj







pjd

Quote from: DrakeM on March 09, 2023, 11:22:33 AM
My parish priest told me, only live musicians are aloud in the church choir. He in fact kicked out the entire Guitar Choir out from our Saturday mass.

Where abouts do you live that it is so different?

Hi Drake --

I've been there with a pastor or two. Man, over time, it changes like the wind. Had one pastor who was all on-board with contemporary music (Sarah Hart, Rick Monalo, Steve Angrisano, Curtis Stephan, ...) and had another priest who wanted to re-introduce chant. Seriously. Parish was outside Boston.

My current parish (outside Seattle) is multi-cultural having services in English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Tagalog. I really dig the Spanish group since we hear them as we show up for our own time slot. Our group is mainly contemporary with acoustic piano, acoustic guitar, me on synth and occasionally a drummer or trumpet.

I'm getting old enough to walk with my feet. I ain't got that much time left to roll logs with stubborn clergy.  :D

All the best -- pj



acparker

Hello all,

Because I play for a very Rural (and therefore spread out) Parish, getting everyone together for practices is nigh on impossible, so I record the hymns as I need them, and share them with the Choir so they can practice on their own.

These recordings are made directly on the Genos with my playing and singing, and then converted to MP3 in audacity.  They are 'quick and dirty' recordings, and not really meant for mass consumption. (No pun intended.)  But, I think it would help show just what is possible with the Genos in a Worship setting, so here goes:

[link removed]

Actually, I've changed my mind about posting it publicly.  If you would like the link, please send me a private message.

Thank you.

Adam
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

myzone1958


    Thank You all for your contributions with your gospel performances much appreciated ,God bless !
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keynote

Here's one more to add to the list. This is a slower song/hymn, but very inspirational, in my opinion. The Genos is a great option for Gospel/Christian music. There are many excellent Styles you can use to get the beat you want for specific occasions. Fast, slow, medium, and a lot of nice organ sounds you can layer with other sounds like Piano, and Elec. Piano, Strings, etc., to create rich tones that can be quite breathtaking because of all the superb voices within the Genos Preset sounds and the Expansion packs which are now all free on the Yamaha Music Soft website which is now https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVr9c49afcs

All the best, Mike

myzone1958

   I meet with the elders. I had a meeting with them .We all sat around the table to go over why I though the Genos would be a great asset to the Church. I handed them all an outline. One fellow ask me what does PSR stand for  ! You know I was stumped . I have been on this sight many times and could not answer that questions.  I was totally Embarrassed. Anyway the meeting closed and now I must meet with the Deacons on Tuesday.  If they approve it then it must be brought before the congregation for a final approval. Last Sunday they one mic in the praise  and worship had a horrible feedback and almost blew my ears out and the congregations . When I was at the meeting I brought this up in the very beginning. I said I know why there was such a feed back but that is another subject at another time  . They got the speakers positioned off to the side on an angle and the guys mic is right near the speaker . Those speakers should be positioned in the front of them facing out and they should be standing behind the cabinets . Such a crazy set up.
     
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overover

Quote from: keynote on March 14, 2023, 08:42:33 PM
... the Expansion packs which are now all free on the Yamaha Music Soft website which is now https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables. ...

All the best, Mike

In order to download the "now free" Expansion Packs (Genos, Tyros5, PSR-Sx7x, PSR-SX), you no longer have to go the cumbersome way via the Yamaha MusicSoft site (shop.usa.yamaha.com). It is much easier to go to the following site:
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/keyboards/vse/

By the way, depending on the country, slightly different/additional Packs may be available on these sites, e.g.
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>>> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/contents/keyboards/vse/index.html
>>> https://www.yamaha.com.cn/products/musical-instruments/vse/


Best regards,
Chris

● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

overover

Quote from: myzone1958 on March 20, 2023, 05:34:45 PM
... One fellow ask me what does PSR stand for  ! You know I was stumped . I have been on this sight many times and could not answer that questions.  I was totally Embarrassed. ...

Hi Greg,

"PSR" stands for "PortaSound Regular" while "PSS" means "PortaSound Standard". :)


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Roger Brenizer

Quote from: myzone1958 on March 20, 2023, 05:34:45 PM
One fellow ask me what does PSR stand for  ! You know I was stumped . I have been on this sight many times and could not answer that questions.  I was totally Embarrassed.   

FYI

"PSR" stands for "PortaSound Regular."
"PSS" (which is sometimes seen among older used instruments) stands for "PortaSound Small."
"Regular" and "Small" refer to the sizes of the keys-- PSR models have regular-sized keys, whereas PSS models have miniature keys.

Older PSR models were usually just "PSR" followed by a number, but newer models are divided into the PSR-E and PSR-S lines.
The "E" in "PSR-E" stands for "Entry-level," but could also be read as "Educational," as the PSR-E models have the "Y.E.S." or "Yamaha Education Suite" feature.
The "S" in "PSR-S" stands for "Stage," as the PSR-S models are considered to be suitable for professional musicians.

PSR-S models have an implementation of XG, whereas PSR-E models have an implementation of XGlite.
"XG" stands for "eXtended General MIDI," Yamaha's extension of "GM" or "General MIDI."
("GM2" or "General MIDI Level 2" came later, hence GM is now also sometimes referred to as "GM1" or "General MIDI Level 1.")
"XGlite" is a "lite" version of "XG"-- it doesn't include all of the XG voices, and also omits some of the XG sound parameters and effects.

There are also several "localized" PSR models which use other letters, including-- but not limited to-- the following:
The "A" in "PSR-A" stands for "Arabic" or "Arabian."
The "B" in "PSR-B" stands for "Brazil" or "Brazilian."
The "I" in "PSR-I" stands for "India" or "Indian."
The "R" in "PSR-R" stands for "Russia" or "Russian."
The "VN" in "PSR-VN" stands for "VietNam" or "VietNamese."

The Portasound keyboards are/were also referred to as Portatone keyboards.
"YPT" stands for "Yamaha PortaTone."
The YPT models are equivalent to PSR-E models-- they generally share the same manuals-- e.g., the YPT-200 is equivalent to the PSR-E203.

A couple of the other Yamaha lines are as follows:
"DGX" apparently stands for "Digital Grand XG"-- although these models actually have an implementation of XGlite.
"YPG" stands for "Yamaha Portable Grand."
These are equivalent to each other-- they generally share the same manuals.
The DGX and YPG models differ from the PSR models in the number of keys-- the PSRs have 61 keys, whereas the DGX and YPG models have 76 or 88 keys.
The DGX and YPG models also differ from Yamaha's digital pianos-- their voices aren't as high-quality, but they have a lot more voices than the digital pianos.

The Tyros is essentially the ultimate or deluxe version of a PSR-S, as evidenced by their prices, number of voices, features, and capabilities.
"Music Is My Life"
My best regards,
Roger

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myzone1958


        Well I went to the Deacon's meeting at Church. I presented my thoughts on how  the Genos would benefit the music Ministry. All ears were open. The did not say no so they do have an open mind about it so that is a good sign. Now they want to confront the music  director and ask him the question if the church would  buy the Genos would he play it or let it sit and dust. As of now I know he is kind of set in his ways and does not like change. I think to put things in perspective he should do what the Deacons request if they so choose to want the Genos there. The question now is will he use it or refuse . Personally I think he would be very foolish to turn the Genos away. Keep in mind he is not only a member there but also employed there so he gets  paid for what he does . I am just curious what is the average fee for a musician to walk in and sit down and play a keyboard  say for an hour in a half on a Sunday morning that's with using the churches equipment ? 
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mikf

Quote from: myzone1958 on March 22, 2023, 01:45:00 PM
         I am just curious what is the average fee for a musician to walk in and sit down and play a keyboard  say for an hour in a half on a Sunday morning that's with using the churches equipment ?
Don't think it works that way for most church musicians. They are usually required to pick the music, rehearse the choir, and other musicians, and be generally available. So they usually get a kind of stipend rather than paid hourly or by the service. Or in some cases they are volunteers and play free.
You might find your music director is strongly against using the Genos when the chips are down. Especially when they realize the learning curve.
Playing arrangers is not universally popular with all musicians. And also it might depend on what kind of musician they are. If they play only from sheet music that might not be suited to an arranger. I have played in churches, bands, clubs, pubs, studios  ... with music, by ear, from lead sheets ....the lot. And I have played many different kind of keyboards so had little trouble adapting to arrangers. But most church musicians I knew could not do this. They are very 'straight' sheet music musicians. Not chord and lead players.
I wouldn't hold your breath on this working out the way you want.
Maybe you should consider pushing for a DGX, rather than a Genos. It does pretty much everything you would need in a church, sounds great, looks and feels a lot more like a conventional keyboard, - a piano player would be comfortable with it. And it is a much easier decision .... because its a fraction of the price of a Genos. The Genos contains way more functionality than is ever needed in a church. And in terms of quality most listeners would not be able to hear the difference.
And on another tack, I think you are kinds sticking your neck out that a TOTL arranger will somehow turn the church around. It's expensive if it sits unused.The DGX is not. And believe me, the success or otherwise is not going to depend on it being a Genos rather than a DGX. If it's going to be successful it will be successful with a DGX. What I definitely would not do to save cost is opt for a lower priced 61 key instrument. If your music director is less than enthusiastic, giving something he thinks looks like a toy keyboard is going to give him nay sayer ammunition.
Just a last thought, if you really believe an arranger wil save the situation', then why don't you buy a DGX and donate it to the church? That's what I would do. They are not very expensive, - round $1000 - and it's obviously a real instrument, not a toy. Then there is no  big dollar commitment from the church, but the music director would feel obliged to try it. Maybe he then will fall in love with arrangers and he will push for a Genos! Or more likely, he will say, "this is great, we don't need a Genos". And he will likely be right.
Mike

myzone1958

I find it hard to believe that  a m1,000 key board would have the dynamics of the Geno's and the dramatic feel and theatrical realistic sound to it. Yes you are right a lot of people don't notice the detail but I do as my ear is critical.The other thing is we lost our choir when COVID hit and some band members  .The Geno's would be a quick fix cause right now they only have a keyboard player. Yes has less keys but that does not make it a toy because of that. I'm sure he could adapt . The keyboard has a learning curve till he would get use to navigating around the controls. The sound on the Geno's is outstanding. It does cost a lot but if you break it down with all the supporters giving is not really a lot if you think about it. One person buying it yes.
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acparker

Quote from: myzone1958 on March 22, 2023, 01:45:00 PM
        I am just curious what is the average fee for a musician to walk in and sit down and play a keyboard  say for an hour in a half on a Sunday morning that's with using the churches equipment ? 

As mikf pointed out, that is but a small part of the role of Musical Director.  I would like to add Practice time.  Practicing is a major component of my time commitment.  I generally practice  1 1/2 to a couple of hours each day, taking Monday's off.  And remember, it is different music each and every week.  I work at least three weeks ahead.  If I could get my choir to actually practice, it would be more.  With Christmas and Easter, the workload can get really heavy.  For example, when I head out to practice in an hour, I will be working on Music for:  5th Sunday In Lent, Palm Sunday, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter Vigil and Easter Sunday.   

Edit:  Forgot to mention, that I am essentially 'on call' to do Funerals as they come up.  So I practice those songs once or twice a week too.  Never had a wedding yet, though.

Regarding your Musical Director's reticence to learn new things, I've (finally) reached the point after several years that my repertoire is large enough that I'm not learning 2 or 3 songs each week, just occasionally.  Learning to play new music takes extra time of course, but so does Orchestrating them on the Genos.  If it is a song with rhythms etc, it generally takes my 8 - 10 hours to build out a song's registration to where I'm happy with it.  Once it is done, of course, I have it for the next time(s).  As for the learning curve of the Genos, I'm *still* learning it after 4 years.

If the Deacons and the Church approve the purchase, please don't expect the Musical Director to bring it out the very next Sunday.  Give him a couple of weeks to get up to speed.  Remember that it's a big jump from the m1000 to the Genos.  And he'll have to build the registrations for each song before he can play it.

Adam

PS> @Mikf.  I did a Christmas Concert where I shared the Genos with a straight up Piano Player.  We found that with the keyboard set to AI full keyboard, everything worked well, and he could use the rhythms and backing while playing full piano style.

A
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)