Yamaha discontinues Montage synth workstation...

[Amwilburn]

Hi --

Believe it or not, it's still possible to buy a new MOXF8 from (a few) on-line retailers. The big on-line retailers usually buy in batches just to maintain "In stock" status. Sometimes the inventory doesn't sell through when a model is out of production (discontinued). MOXF is based on the older generation of tone generator IC and is completely out of production (EOL).

The MX mk2 is still a current product. Yamaha refreshed the internals and released the mk2 in July 2016. It fills the entry-level, price sensitive buyer slot in the synthesizer line. The MX mk2 sound set is still based on the Motif XS.

Yamaha doesn't make a generational change very often. Montage and MODX+ will evolve incrementally. This is the "Yamaha Way" and I don't expect them to change practice.

Genos was a generational change. Doubt if there will be another revolution soon. 

All the best -- pj

Yup, we actually had new, sealed MOXF8's & 6's right up until this past Christmas; we just sold our last display model last month.

The last generational change was going from PSR9000 to Tyros 1; 20 years ago! Yes, Genos was a generational change, and I agree, the next few iterations will likely be incremental.

We still have Montage 6's, but as a dealer we can't get Montage 8's or 7's anymore :1

[soundphase]

Yes, Genos was a generational change, and I agree, the next few iterations will likely be incremental.

New hardware generation,... ok.... but Genos2 could propose us some sounds from a new "sound format" generation that better take benefit from the new processors and co-processors.

[keynote]

New hardware generation,... ok.... but Genos2 could propose us some sounds from a new "sound format" generation that better take benefit from the new processors and co-processors.

CPU's and coprocessors have advanced leaps and bounds compared to when the Genos was released in 2017. I hope Yamaha gives us the latest advancements in keyboard processors and coprocessors, etc., on the Geno2 (or whatever Yammie decides to call it). So, in theory, we could see a new Vocal Harmony addition e.g. VH3, a new sound articulation addition e.g. S.Art3, new Hammond B3/Vox/Farfisa/Pipe Organ emulations that could be the bees knees if Yammie ups its game regarding Tone Wheel and various other Organ types like we now find on the new Clavia Nord Stage 4, as an example. Faster data access via a superfast NVMe SSD. USB 3.2 2nd Generation interface (USB-C) [Sampling Frequency = 44.1kHz - 192kHz] Input: 32 channels (16 stereo channels), Output: 64 channels (32 stereo channels) would be a whopping improvement to the current specs on the Montage used as an audio interface. 256 notes (or more) of polyphony across the entire range of the keyboard. Increased Insert/layering effects, Import and playback of 24/32bit audio, HDMI Video interface/output, a High Definition LCD/OLED Display Screen(s), and the list goes on. It will be interesting to see what unfolds as it pertains to the Montage successor and Genos successor. In due time, I reckon. 

All the best, Mike USA   

[soundphase]

CPU's and coprocessors have advanced leaps and bounds compared to when the Genos was released in 2017. I hope Yamaha gives us the latest advancements in keyboard processors and coprocessors, etc., on the Geno2 (or whatever Yammie decides to call it). So, in theory, we could see a new Vocal Harmony addition e.g. VH3, a new sound articulation addition e.g. S.Art3, new Hammond B3/Vox/Farfisa/Pipe Organ emulations that could be the bees knees if Yammie ups its game regarding Tone Wheel and various other Organ types like we now find on the new Clavia Nord Stage 4, as an example. Faster data access via a superfast NVMe SSD. USB 3.2 2nd Generation interface (USB-C) [Sampling Frequency = 44.1kHz - 192kHz] Input: 32 channels (16 stereo channels), Output: 64 channels (32 stereo channels) would be a whopping improvement to the current specs on the Montage used as an audio interface. 256 notes (or more) of polyphony across the entire range of the keyboard. Increased Insert/layering effects, Import and playback of 24/32bit audio, HDMI Video interface/output, a High Definition LCD/OLED Display Screen(s), and the list goes on. It will be interesting to see what unfolds as it pertains to the Montage successor and Genos successor. In due time, I reckon. 

All the best, Mike USA   

I'm sure Genos 2 hardware specifications were already fixed in 2018~2019 (so based on technologies that were just emerging at the time), and Genos hardware specification in 2013~2014. Being able to change assembly lines and industrially produce such specific motherboards and components requires a lot of preparation time (more than standard computers CPUs/GPUs and motherboards).

[keynote]

I'm sure Genos 2 hardware specifications were already fixed in 2018~2019 (so based on technologies that were just emerging at the time), and Genos hardware specification in 2013~2014. Being able to change assembly lines and industrially produce such specific motherboards and components requires a lot of preparation time (more than standard computers CPUs/GPUs and motherboards).

Agreed. Yamaha needed to secure all hardware parts at the time of design and layout of the Genos2. I figure the final design and layout occurred in 2020/2021 and if I'm correct then Yamaha should be able to provide a significant upgrade to the original Genos when they release the Genos2, hopefully this year.

All the best, Mike USA